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good evening ladies and gentlemen i am

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your host chris george zuger and you

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have entered the den of lore

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this is our 40th episode this is a june

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1st

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2017

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and we have uh

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well it's it's throwback month uh yeah

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we're going with the themes

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and boy do we have a treat for you

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what uh ended up starting out as a

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disaster a couple days ago where um we

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are our guest a supposed guest

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suppose i guess that was supposed to be

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here tonight

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uh

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believe it or not out in the middle of

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the arizona desert with graham hancock

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gary david and randall carlson uh

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they're filming at a clovis site so he's

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like i have no cell signal where i am

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i'd love to do it but apparently it's

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worse out there than he thought

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um ed stay strong uh you know again have

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some fun come back to a safe and sound

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and thank you very much now in his stead

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i'm going to say alum

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guest alum

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mr john michael greer himself

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and of course um

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i'm not across the desk room because i

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in the studio

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solo

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because mr big sexy alex himself uh

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notified me

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um

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about 40 minutes before the show started

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that i originally had scheduled for

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tomorrow so he thought it was tomorrow

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so

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again if you would like to be an intern

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for the show applied info dentalvar.com

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although virtualbig sexy alex is here

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with me via skype

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say hello big sexy

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good evening everyone how are you doing

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today big sexy

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good

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see you're like not in the studio so i

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can say it as much as you want he can't

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hit me

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now

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an opening segment and we sometimes

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don't

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now i was going to do an opening segment

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to comment on the recent drama that's

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been happening

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at or after contact in the desert um

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i'm not sure exactly why i don't have

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all the details we here in the den of

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lord do not necessarily

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stoop to such

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childishness well essentially there is a

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group within the ufo and exo politics

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community who

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well um alex and i would term them term

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them the batshit insane division uh and

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then you have pretty much you know every

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everyone else people who just like to

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have fun and

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who enjoy the togetherness the community

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who appreciate the fact that even if we

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don't agree with the theories that are

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out there or uh

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you know we uh just don't like it we

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still at least try and act civilly uh

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and uh try we we're trying to have some

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fun while still trying to search for the

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truth because you know we all want to

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uh uncover the truth behind that big lie

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as as uh the great uh jimmy church says

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basically the best way to be able to put

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it is from my perspective that it is the

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people and this is all based around the

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the uh

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what's the term for crying out loud uh

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cosmic disclosure uh we've talked about

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it on the show before a couple times uh

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again with corey goode and david wilcock

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um again i've already expressed my views

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as far as what i think of the theories

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as far as the the gentleman's themselves

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they're they're good honest hard-working

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uh there's a group out there that is

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savagely attacking them

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anything from racial slurs to

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well what i was going to read out today

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was essentially this massive run-on

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sentence with multiple uses of satanism

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i believe david wilcox name was uh

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prince spelt david wilc dash c-o-c-k

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c-o-c-k which i believe is very

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disrespectful and essentially using a

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baseless lies

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to try and slander some people who even

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if i don't agree with the direction that

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they're taking it

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at the end of the day

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some questionable theories and concepts

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which you know i don't know if they're

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true or not but i know that they're at

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least presenting them in in a uh in a

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way that people can can

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and then you've got on the other hand

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the irrational fanatics um whom i make

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fun of the lampoon on this show on a

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daily basis and i always will lampoon

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them on the show on a daily basis

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because at the end of the day

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we here especially in the den of lore as

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long as you get your glasses scotch

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you know your you're big sexy next to

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you or

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virtually next to you uh

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and and you can at least

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have a discussion about stuff even if

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you don't agree with it

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we still come here with the knowledge

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and wants to to love and to learn and to

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i don't know like raise it raise a

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dram every now and again

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i'm not going to name any people out

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because i don't want to get sued but to

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those who are out there if you are in

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the business of fear if you are in the

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business of trying to sell books

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website

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and you use nothing but

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not even fear fear from ufos fear from

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aliens as well as mixing in the the

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baseless like baseless fears

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from from the worst parts of of of faith

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you know a system of morality at least

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then then get [\h__\h] seriously i don't

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give a [\h__\h] how many followers you have

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or how many views you get

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uh and if you're a youtube podcast that

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can essentially get

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more views than i can putting on a suit

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and lying to the [\h__\h] camera because

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you are some you know hot shot shill

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or you know you you actually believe the

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[\h__\h] that you shovel out of your show

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well then honestly go [\h__\h] yourself

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straight up i i really couldn't i really

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couldn't care if you are going to attack

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hard-working people

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who haven't done anything to you except

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for say something you've disagreed with

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you're you're you're just punching up

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and way out of your league way out of

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your league

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and um

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including people

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canada like this is the backwoods

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compared to la

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and even if i don't agree with people

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they're they're still saying like you

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know you're you're running a show you

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you talk and you care about what we

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actually are saying at least you're

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willing to listen and even if you don't

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agree you're still a pretty good guy

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it just pisses me off it really pisses

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go on a little bit of a tangent here

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about a week ago for being for saying

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that i was a freemason i was accused of

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being a devil worshiper now everyone

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knows the troll that i am

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so yeah i spent a good day [\h__\h] with

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this person because it's just really fun

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uh you can't convince these people

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otherwise and i tried trust me it didn't

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go to that so i'm like okay i'll just

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him that he's actually the satan

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worshiper and let him question his life

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you know for you know for the rest of

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his days or at least for the rest of the

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um

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but it's this baseless

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for the person that you are

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if if you want to hide behind a

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microphone like at least the difference

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is if i disagree with somebody i'll

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[\h__\h] invite them on the show and i'll

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tell them to their face because at least

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for that it opens up

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you know it opens up conversation you're

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hiding behind a goddamn camera so come

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on the den of lore see how long you last

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because i will tear you a goddamn new

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you god damn disrespectful sons of

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now i can actually feel better you know

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i actually do

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it just grinds my gears like it it's

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it's like the

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like i've been in uh uh

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i've been in the rave scene i've been in

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the club scene and there's a lot of

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politics that are involved and it's a

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very close community here in ottawa and

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you know you can see groups of friends

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or communities kind of splinter or

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shatter

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based on somebody doesn't like some

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somebody else so they're going to make

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up a bunch of lies and [\h__\h] it fragments

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an entire community

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the alternate history

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alien abduction and conspiracy

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community

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and again even for myself i'd like

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there's always fringes in any group

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this is the type of group that can still

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shatter like it's large enough that it

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could survive

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but if somebody did something wrong

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they're going to be like well i'm going

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to use my influence to be able to hurt

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this person hurt their business that's

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just wrong

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that's just that's not cool

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so yeah i'm good now

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um tonight on the show

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we have a very very special guest

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uh you may recognize him from one of our

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earlier episodes and one of the most fun

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ones especially uh as we actually got to

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tell a bunch of freemason jokes back and

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forth that mostly freemasons would

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really get

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and

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he taught us the lost secrets of a

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freemasonry which is one of the greatest

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books

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that i've read it it connected so many

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dots for me

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um

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is john michael greer who is uh

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well a fellow freemason he's also a

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former grand arch druid and uh

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i know the last time i did not get the

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best

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uh

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i did not get the best

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what's the term bio now i took this one

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right from wikipedia and i altered it so

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hopefully this works

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john michael greer is an american author

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who writes on the environment various

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religions and occult topics

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he served from december 2003 to december

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2015 as of the grand archdruid of the

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ancient order of druids in america

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and since then he has focused on the

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juridical order of the golden dawn which

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he founded in 2013.

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writing in the futurist magazine uh rick

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dasaki

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daksai i believe sorry i always always

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get one name that i mispronounced

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declared the greatest book the esoteric

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future that is a realistic portrayal of

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the end of civilization as one is likely

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to find it was also possibly reviewed in

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choice current reviews for academic

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libraries and was recommended in the

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industry journal energy policy

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the international journey a journal of

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agriculture sustainability referred to

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this book the wealth of nature as

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challenging the paradigms that underline

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or underlie the complex system of wealth

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distribution we know as economics and

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his book the new encyclopedia of the

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occult was selected as a reference text

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in 2005 by american liberties and noted

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by booklist and publishers weekly

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and today on the program we are going to

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be learning

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about two of those works that are coming

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out and continue our discussion on

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esotericism uh which is uh his recent

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and please correct me from if i uh get

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this right or get this wrong i should

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say

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colburn alphabet as well as a recent

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book he did a translation for

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which is the academy of the sword

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uh which is essentially a guide to

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western martial arts based sword

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fighting from the renaissance which i

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thought was just absolutely cool uh

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brother grier how are you doing this

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evening i'm doing very well thank you

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pleasure to be on again well thank you

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very much it's always a pleasure to have

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you um again excuse me for the rant it's

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just uh

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no

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community

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in whether it's druidry whether it's the

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occult scene whether it's some of the

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other alternative thoughts you get these

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people who decide

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they can you know their way of building

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a little empire is by dragging other

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people down

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and

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you know you got to call them for what

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they are and then

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you know it basically the people who

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aren't going to sit still for that can

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simply turn their backs walk away go do

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some you know raise a beer together and

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and and shut them out

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and that's we've had this

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okay yeah yeah like it's

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even for myself for somebody who was

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bullied for so much when he was a

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teenager it's it's sad oh me too no yeah

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oh yeah yeah i i went through the same

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kind of thing when i when i was a kid

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all through public schools and my

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reaction to it has mellowed

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um you know from the point of wanting to

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stake them out on live ant hills to the

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point of simply wanting um you know to

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to arrange for public humiliation the

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latter is usually easier to arrange

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because mostly people are really

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buffoons

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and if you simply point that out and

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make you know me and and give them

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opportunities to make fools of

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themselves you know hey life is good

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well

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that's it it's it's just we we as

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uh like for people who have large

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followings and i i know for

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uh for your following it's

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in in many different different areas and

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many different subjects there you know

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the the fall of civilization you you

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have your your you know compared to

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your comparisons and symbolism and and

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civilizations uh your esoteric works so

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you know you but at the same time you

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have you know when you understand the

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responsibility that having that voice is

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and

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some people use it for

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you know nefarious or unfortunate

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purposes

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some people you know some people are

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morons what can you say

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they don't they don't get

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that among other things they don't get

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the the simple fact that people who do

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that kind of thing who grab on who you

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know

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insist on beating other people over the

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head and um spreading all kinds of false

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rumors and stuff like that they don't

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last long

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they make a big flash for a while and

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then oh yeah i remember them back 10

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years ago i wonder what they're doing

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now

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we've had people like that in the peak

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oil scene

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who were who made a huge amount of noise

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denouncing and criticizing and

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condemning and and now it's

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who are they

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whereas those of us who are approaching

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the thing in in in a more cooperative

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fashion those of us who were you know

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even though we disagree sharply about

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issues who are willing to sit down

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together and talk

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we're still here

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so you know be just

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when when the when when the crap is

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flying fast and thick just remember you

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can outlast these people

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well it's

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this is very true and or at some point

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you just stop

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caring like you you drown it out

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and

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it's like if you can either give in to

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the hate or you can you can go with it

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or you know or and or you can just you

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can ignore it and hope to god it doesn't

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actually touch you or you can you can

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fight against it uh sometimes as i say

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you know or my mother used to say all

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the time if uh the

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was it the nail that sticks out gets the

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hammer um i've always i've always been

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that nail and sometimes willingly

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so

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yeah

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now i know we like on the last show

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we had and i was going to

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uh not having internet is um

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kind of interesting because i was

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actually going to listen to the the the

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last

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one of the episodes that i can listen to

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i don't like listening to my own voice

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it's it's one of those things

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um

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and like even for myself i remember

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that even though

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the information was new or different

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you know we we had some because we're

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freemasons we have something in common

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that at least gives us that bond and

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that's the whole idea of fraternity so

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there is that instantaneous connection

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it's

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very similar to if you uh find somebody

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who you know watches game of thrones

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and just you watch game of thrones oh my

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well do you watch game of thrones

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do i no i don't i actually haven't owned

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a television in my adult life so but i

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had the same experience

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you know scroll back a few decades back

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when the lord of the rings was still

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relatively i and not new i was published

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before i was born but when it was really

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the major presence in fantasy yeah you'd

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meet somebody who had also read the

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trilogy and all of a sudden click you

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know you

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there's a common ground of conversation

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there

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and exactly and it allows you to be able

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to form um you know a bond just beyond

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two people passing in the night um yeah

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i'm i'm trying to at least decide from

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uh you know from from

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an esoteric standpoint whether this is

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something that was known uh originally

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from the old the old guilds whenever

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they had actually

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started forming

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uh obviously if if you're a stone cutter

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and you're being brought onto a site

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that

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uh well

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essentially you're going to be building

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a building with these people for a very

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long time and then your kids are

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probably going to be building this

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building with your kids

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you know you're going to have if you

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don't know the language if you don't

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know the the culture the what you do

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actually have in common is your your

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knowledge and ability to shape and work

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stone

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and everything else kind of goes from

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there

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so

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if

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a basis like how how have you seen this

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in in the druid order

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um well druidry is complicated that way

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because um freemasonry has the huge

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advantage that there's basically i mean

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there's a set of landmarks okay

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and everybody more or less corresponds

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to the you know

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there's those are common

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everybody who recognizes the landmarks

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everybody who belongs to grand lodges

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that recognize each other there's that

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common thing druidry

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um

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is much less unified

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within individual druid orders there's a

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lot of that a lot of camaraderie within

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the certain classes of organizations

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that where there's there are connections

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there's for example the order that i

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used to have the internet of druids in

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america

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and the order of bards ovates and druids

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which is um i think still the largest

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druid order in the world these days

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which i've i also belong to i've also

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studied with them um there's a there's a

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huge amount overlap there there's a lot

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of a lot of very common ground and yeah

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you know you me and and somebody from

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aoda meets someone from obot and

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instantly it's oh yeah you know they're

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they're talking druidry if they're

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meeting something from the celtic

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reconstructionist end of things you

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might as well be trying to communicate

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through the berlin wall because there

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are not the common ground does not exist

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and so it's you know it's complicated

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but you know i think one of the things

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one of the things that makes freemasonry

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that makes that such a very important

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freemasonry is precisely that there was

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the old occupational connection

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00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:27,440
i've recently for for a fiction project

567
00:19:32,070 --> 00:19:29,200
i'm working on been reading a lot of

568
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,080
material from um on what it was like to

569
00:19:35,510 --> 00:19:34,320
sail on one of the old tall ships back

570
00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:35,520
in the day

571
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,520
and one of the things that's mentioned

572
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:39,760
there is you know you get a competent

573
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,559
sailor who might not speak a word of

574
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,480
your language you know you're you're

575
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:46,080
it's an american ship

576
00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:47,600
and they say somebody comes on board

577
00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:48,960
he's a finnish sailor he doesn't speak a

578
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,520
word of english but he's a good sailor

579
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:53,679
he knows what to do you could very

580
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,840
quickly work out enough language that

581
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,679
everyone understands what's to be done

582
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:59,280
and there's an instant brotherhood

583
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,480
because

584
00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,480
you're a sailor he's a sailor you know

585
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,799
you've got all these common skills you

586
00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:07,039
have these common responsibilities you

587
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,559
know what's like you know what it's like

588
00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:10,880
to serve in the forecastle and so to me

589
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,360
the folks will and away you go

590
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,200
so i think the fact that the masonry

591
00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:17,520
does come out of this heritage of

592
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,840
medieval and renaissance

593
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:21,039
skills

594
00:20:24,549 --> 00:20:22,320
gives it

595
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,559
frankly more of a capacity to bond

596
00:20:28,950 --> 00:20:27,120
because we've still got the the relics

597
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:28,960
if you will of that set of habits in

598
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,320
place

599
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,960
and obviously the the ability to kind of

600
00:20:36,149 --> 00:20:34,640
uh you're in close quarters so getting

601
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:36,159
along is kind of necessary especially if

602
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:37,600
you're over water for extended periods

603
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,039
of time

604
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:41,600
yeah and yeah when you're on and it is

605
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:43,760
just like yeah it's just like being on

606
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:45,039
you know being on a building site where

607
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:46,080
you're gonna be working with you know

608
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:47,600
this cathedral is going to take probably

609
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,840
200 years to build you will spend the

610
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:51,440
rest of your life with the same group of

611
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,559
men

612
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,799
you've got to get along with them

613
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,559
and you know there's also a lot more rum

614
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,400
and obviously you've probably saved

615
00:21:01,430 --> 00:21:00,000
their lives a couple of times you know

616
00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:01,440
straight yeah

617
00:21:06,070 --> 00:21:03,919
it's a straight cannon fire or

618
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,080
somebody falls overboard

619
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,760
it's it's like

620
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,600
i have friends in in the canadian

621
00:21:13,190 --> 00:21:10,799
military or at least they were in the

622
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:13,200
military and again uh if you're

623
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:14,640
listening to the showboys thank you very

624
00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:16,480
much for your for your service

625
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:17,440
um

626
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:20,240
and as veterans they still

627
00:21:22,310 --> 00:21:21,200
you know

628
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:22,320
they talk about well it was the

629
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:23,600
camaraderie and it's because you have to

630
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,880
trust these people with your lives

631
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:27,280
because it could be life and death

632
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:28,240
yeah

633
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,720
and so is theirs and that's that really

634
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,320
builds that you know that really builds

635
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:36,000
a connection and

636
00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,559
especially even in freemasonry when

637
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,320
when you're taking oaths

638
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:42,480
on pain of uh well pain of death

639
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:44,000
essentially as the traditional penalties

640
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:45,360
are we're concerned

641
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,240
you know

642
00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:48,400
paying a really colorful complicated

643
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:51,679
death yeah you know it's if if you yeah

644
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,559
if it and again nowadays uh kids they're

645
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:56,080
they're traditional penalties which

646
00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:56,960
means

647
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,400
we don't do them

648
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:00,720
um we just you know you just essentially

649
00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,799
if you give up the secrets then you're

650
00:22:06,390 --> 00:22:04,559
you know you basically get to

651
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,400
be known by everyone that you're

652
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:08,480
somebody who doesn't keep their word and

653
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:09,919
not only just like doesn't keep your

654
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,240
word you're somebody who outright lied

655
00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:14,480
after taking an oath on a holy book and

656
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:15,360
that's

657
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:17,520
exactly yeah you're you're a liar and a

658
00:22:24,830 --> 00:22:20,559
cheat and everyone knows it pretty much

659
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:24,840
yeah exactly exactly and so yeah it's

660
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,919
but but it gets it's it is the the

661
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,600
traditional penalties are kind of fun

662
00:22:34,549 --> 00:22:31,200
i'm i mean you know i i don't really

663
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,559
know how um canada arranges its it so if

664
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:36,080
it's higher degrees in in the united

665
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:37,919
states we have the york right which

666
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,000
involves the royal arch shaft same thing

667
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:41,919
on your side of the border we have royal

668
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,029
yeah we've got the royal arch scottish

669
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:51,200
rite and shriners

670
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:52,000
okay

671
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,280
yeah on our side uh royal arch plus um

672
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,600
royal and select masters plus knights

673
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,679
templar are all part of one body which

674
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,360
is the york right yes

675
00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:03,600
and so i'm that's that's been the branch

676
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:05,120
that i've been most active in recently

677
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,400
other than just you know attending blue

678
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:08,400
lodge and so on and

679
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,919
you can tell you can kind of tell us

680
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:12,080
there as the new degrees were being

681
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:13,600
added back in the 18th century and they

682
00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:15,679
were trying to figure okay what are we

683
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,360
going to put on this penalty for this

684
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,830
it kind of got

685
00:23:24,390 --> 00:23:22,400
complicated

686
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,400
well that's the thing in the scottish

687
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,559
rite and again for for for those who are

688
00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:28,240
uninitiated or

689
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:29,760
are initiated and you know i just

690
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:32,320
realized i put this out i i put this uh

691
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:34,000
show out to the canadian freemasons

692
00:23:37,510 --> 00:23:35,760
group so basically the first thing that

693
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,520
most of the brothers out there

694
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:38,720
was

695
00:23:43,510 --> 00:23:41,919
this this guy essentially just went went

696
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:43,520
on a full-on ramp but if you listen to

697
00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:45,679
the show you know how i roll

698
00:23:49,590 --> 00:23:47,280
um

699
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:49,600
for the uninitiated out there you know

700
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,039
you've got your scottish rite and your

701
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,360
york right uh one i think the the

702
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:55,120
scottish rite was actually f was

703
00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:57,039
actually thought up of in france which

704
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:59,039
is kind of weird and york right is from

705
00:24:01,750 --> 00:24:00,159
england

706
00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:01,760
um

707
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:03,440
hence the name york they both

708
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,559
essentially tell you the same thing

709
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,679
it's

710
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,600
they're they're just done completely

711
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,799
differently

712
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,480
they they chop they chop the degrees

713
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:14,159
differently they reassign the lectures

714
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,720
in different places the rituals at least

715
00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:18,000
on this side of the on this side of the

716
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,760
border the scottish rite rituals they

717
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,600
they've been through a long it's very

718
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:23,360
french you have a lot of a lot of

719
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,799
complexity it's kind of the difference

720
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,440
between a a good solid british roast

721
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:29,679
beef dinner and fine nouvelle cuisine

722
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:31,360
products you know coming out with a from

723
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,000
a five-star michelin chef uh it depends

724
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,520
on which you prefer

725
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:37,039
well i tend to like the roast beef

726
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:38,159
myself

727
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:39,360
well this is the thing most people don't

728
00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,279
necessarily understand it's like oh like

729
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:42,960
if you're if you're a freemason you're

730
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,240
like oh you're you know you don't get

731
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:46,559
the secrets until like the 33rd degree

732
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,840
and you're

733
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,440
uh you know obviously if you're not a

734
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:51,760
33rd degree then you're that you don't

735
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,640
you're not in implemented or initiated

736
00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,400
into the true secrets and you didn't

737
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,919
take the left or the right path or what

738
00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,400
have you or you know like blah blah blah

739
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:02,640
yeah yeah and it's it it it's like okay

740
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:03,600
well

741
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,919
all it is is it's more of an explain

742
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:07,440
like the freemasonry is a system of

743
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,480
morals

744
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:09,840
and

745
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,880
deeply so that you can be then become a

746
00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,480
better even better person because you

747
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,799
understand yourself and society and

748
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:24,320
human nature more

749
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:27,039
uh yeah and but they do it in different

750
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:28,400
ways at least again correct me if i'm

751
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,679
wrong

752
00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:31,440
yeah like scottish right here in canada

753
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:33,679
is it's very um

754
00:25:37,269 --> 00:25:35,679
like very allegorical place uh based

755
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:37,279
it's it's it's essentially community

756
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:38,559
theater

757
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,520
um

758
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,880
that's a good description down here too

759
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,200
yeah yeah and york right is more like

760
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:45,520
your standard blue lodge

761
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,480
so if you've ever seen if again for the

762
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:50,799
uninitiated uh if you've ever seen a

763
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:53,919
show or a movie with freemasonry in it

764
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:55,520
and an actual lodge room and you've got

765
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,799
guys with aprons and and you know

766
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:00,000
it's essentially that it's a lot of

767
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,600
ritual it's a lot of lecturing back and

768
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:03,600
forth to an initiate and

769
00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:07,200
discussion where to be able to

770
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:08,320
essentially kind of convey these

771
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,679
messages you're telling it to somebody

772
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:11,440
directly where scottish right you get

773
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:12,960
you gotta watch something and figure it

774
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,029
yeah

775
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:18,880
and uh the community the community

776
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,679
theater aspect i find very fun

777
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,039
like just just based around the fact

778
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,960
that okay you got this guy

779
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,000
who

780
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,880
um you've only seen him in you know a

781
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,799
really really nice tuxedo

782
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,120
and to make him look like a centurion uh

783
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:36,080
he's essentially wearing a

784
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:37,360
like a

785
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,200
a one-piece uh

786
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,720
like night shirt the ones the one that

787
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:43,200
go down to your knees with slippers on

788
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,440
and what looks to be a hard helmet that

789
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:47,440
has been reshaped painted gold and and

790
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,960
you know and and and so on so it it's

791
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,200
it's very cute and fun

792
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:55,039
um i don't understand how people can

793
00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:56,480
think that you know where we're dealing

794
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:58,000
with with satanists and like you know

795
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,200
reptilian

796
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:00,720
uh

797
00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:05,440
from zeta reticuli as i like to say

798
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:06,960
because it's like or something like yeah

799
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:10,080
yeah and i'm like these guys no no

800
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,440
no no

801
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,559
like

802
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:14,720
no

803
00:27:20,390 --> 00:27:19,600
major major g8 nation i i can assure you

804
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:20,400
that

805
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,320
um you know nobody's perfect

806
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,240
but if they're and i know a lot of the

807
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,159
33rd degrees if any of them are

808
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,880
reptilian shape-shifting aliens then

809
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,200
the the aliens are

810
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,600
they will never take over the planet

811
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:35,200
because again it all comes down to where

812
00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,320
where are we going to have the pancake

813
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:38,559
breakfast well yeah exactly there's

814
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:40,559
there's

815
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:44,000
you know it's your standard human nature

816
00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:45,200
that takes over

817
00:27:49,029 --> 00:27:46,400
um

818
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,039
you i doubt they

819
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:51,279
you know it's it's

820
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:52,880
like for me it's ridiculous it's

821
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:55,600
ridiculous um well i've been i've been

822
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,200
accused of my face of being an evil

823
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:59,760
space lizard from from um you know out

824
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:02,480
of david ike's books um on the basis of

825
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,720
being a freemason

826
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:05,919
and you know it's just one of those

827
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,510
you just have to roll your eyes

828
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:14,320
sometimes and

829
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:20,230
no

830
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,039
but

831
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,720
just pull your eyes and suggest that

832
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,039
people get out more or something i mean

833
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,510
we're engaging in such evil sinister

834
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,159
projects is you know raising money for

835
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,559
free childhood language centers for kids

836
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,399
who have language difficulties who whose

837
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:38,080
families can't afford

838
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:40,320
therapy you know that's that's the

839
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:42,840
soul-shattering blood

840
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,080
thirsty evil that we're engaged in that

841
00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,399
we help dyslexic kids read

842
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,399
yeah exactly exactly that's that's

843
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:52,240
that's our ability or the you know the

844
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,159
shriners who are out there raising money

845
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,760
for their children's hospitals and burn

846
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:57,760
clinics so that some you know some kid

847
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,320
who suffers horrible burns can get the

848
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:02,240
very complex inexpensive therapy that'll

849
00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:04,080
restore the poor child you know to

850
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:06,080
perfect health and function with that

851
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:07,440
without cost

852
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,480
exactly and this and this is somehow you

853
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:13,679
know evenly evil evilness with a double

854
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:16,510
helping of evil sauce on the side and

855
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,080
[Music]

856
00:29:21,029 --> 00:29:20,000
okay well again the whole argument would

857
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,039
come back and going like well you're

858
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,720
only a 30-second degree you don't have

859
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,480
all the secrets and then i would i would

860
00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:25,679
point out

861
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,480
well okay you know john's and art grand

862
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,000
arch drew it now

863
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,080
here's here's a good question is that on

864
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:34,080
that side of it like is that the real

865
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,640
illuminati

866
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,640
now there is there's a chart that i've

867
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,399
seen online in a couple of places

868
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,320
which claims to give the entire

869
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:44,640
hierarchy of the illuminati

870
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:46,559
starting with lucifer the all-seeing eye

871
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,080
at the very top

872
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:50,000
and i think it's two notches down you

873
00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:52,799
see grand druid council

874
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,520
of

875
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:56,880
the 13 top druids in the world

876
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:59,600
and then one notch below that

877
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,840
are the 33 most influential freemasons

878
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:03,120
in the world so the druids actually

879
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:05,600
outrank the freemasons in the you know

880
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:07,919
in the councils of the illuminati but be

881
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:10,799
that as it may um the druids i mean the

882
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:13,760
druids that i've met are they see i met

883
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:15,919
most of the really significant figures

884
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,480
in the in the druid scene these days um

885
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,679
and

886
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:20,960
you know they're interested in things

887
00:30:26,470 --> 00:30:24,640
like tree planting campaigns

888
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:26,480
and i'm guessing they all have very long

889
00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:27,919
beards

890
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:30,799
actually no i'm i am one of the few

891
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,960
really luxuriantly bearded arch crews

892
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:34,559
out there

893
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:37,039
again speaking just feel like

894
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,559
i feel like we've missed the queen of

895
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:40,640
england in there somewhere oh the queen

896
00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:41,679
of england's got to be in there

897
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,000
somewhere i

898
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:46,159
[Music]

899
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:49,200
i i don't think she is actually part of

900
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,279
the this particular map of the of the um

901
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:55,840
luciferian illuminati hierarchy they

902
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,720
apparently left out there has to be

903
00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:00,799
because obviously the real head of the

904
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:02,640
illuminati is not going to be known

905
00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,640
people would not be known actually you

906
00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:06,960
know it's actually the plot this whole

907
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,799
thing it's a plot being carried out by

908
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,559
the girl scouts

909
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,240
nobody suspected them that proves that

910
00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:13,760
they must be guilty right

911
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,520
you know what man those cookies are just

912
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:18,480
too simply delicious like i know exactly

913
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,240
it is it's a conspiracy a conspiracy to

914
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,559
widen my waistline so that i become

915
00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:25,679
exactly

916
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,520
and rot your teeth proving that the

917
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,880
dentists are into it too

918
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,720
oh you know what it's the dentist

919
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,559
wouldn't exist i swear the dentist

920
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:36,080
wouldn't exist without without those lab

921
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,279
coats um you can't have a dentist office

922
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:41,120
without a lab coat it just does not

923
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:41,919
exist

924
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:42,799
so

925
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:46,880
there you go and you know what what

926
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:49,840
about what about those uh you know those

927
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,799
things that they give to their kids like

928
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,320
you know they that's supposed to be

929
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:56,240
candy how do we know that it isn't like

930
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:57,840
you know some type of

931
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,840
of

932
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:01,840
crazy saturnalian schmucks that all the

933
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:04,960
judges wear oh i know

934
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,310
yeah

935
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:13,110
many many many seriously respectable or

936
00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:15,039
seriously respected theories have gotten

937
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,799
going on on bases thinner than this

938
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,720
now give me one second here because alex

939
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,320
sent me a link to the the image i just

940
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,320
want to post it up here but i'm probably

941
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:25,440
going to

942
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:27,679
let's see here webcam screen share plus

943
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,960
small webcast yeah i labeled all these

944
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:29,840
things

945
00:32:33,830 --> 00:32:31,039
oh there we go oh my goodness it

946
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:33,840
actually worked okay so yeah this is the

947
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:36,080
um you know it's just

948
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:37,440
what is it i'm sure it's different

949
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,159
there's no druids on this one so yeah

950
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,320
did we get did we get left out i'm

951
00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,760
offended

952
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,440
apparently like ibm and dupont is in

953
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,440
there exxonmobil and shell

954
00:32:50,310 --> 00:32:48,480
um

955
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:50,320
crown council the 13 committee of the

956
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:53,440
300 uh think tanks

957
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,039
yeah check the check the crown council

958
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,120
of 13. that's usually the

959
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,760
world's richest most powerful families

960
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,679
apparently okay that's not us then okay

961
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,600
yeah so okay is there a complete there

962
00:33:07,269 --> 00:33:05,120
are competing versions out there i'll

963
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:07,279
see if i can find the one that i saw

964
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:09,600
it was in a book that had a picture of

965
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:12,640
barbara bush in a polka dot dress insist

966
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,720
and the caption insisted the polkadot

967
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,039
dress was this evil sort of throbbing

968
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:19,440
hypnotic thing she was like teaching

969
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,799
children to read and obviously

970
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:22,480
corrupting their minds with illuminati

971
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:26,080
messages or something i i saw a post on

972
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:27,760
it was it was posted to the the adept

973
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:30,559
initiates um uh group and they started

974
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,320
to really clamp down on the on the

975
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:33,679
trolls because it's all about self

976
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:35,279
initiation to into

977
00:33:38,149 --> 00:33:36,559
uh you know into enlightenment

978
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:38,159
essentially trying to open up yourself

979
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,279
more to the world which i think is

980
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:40,399
really cool

981
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:42,720
and he posted a picture of i think it

982
00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:43,679
was

983
00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:46,960
barack obama and justin trudeau wearing

984
00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:49,519
traditional chinese uh or at least

985
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:51,840
supposed to be traditional chinese uh

986
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,080
you know like mao like full full robes

987
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:56,880
like but and it's blue with like

988
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,039
uh like with yellow polka dots on it and

989
00:34:02,310 --> 00:34:00,720
going like oh it's like oh they just

990
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:02,320
came from a secret grand lodge meeting

991
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,120
i'm like

992
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,200
are they drunk because any grand lodge

993
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:06,799
meeting i've been to at the end of it

994
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,919
they're

995
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,760
there there has been some scotch imbued

996
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,000
it's it's just the way we roll um they

997
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:14,159
seem to be walking up i obviously need

998
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,679
to obviously need to attend some

999
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:17,760
canadian grand lodge meetings things

1000
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,320
the the scotch tends to take place after

1001
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,320
hours and in different facilities yes um

1002
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:24,159
here it's you know so that's yeah that's

1003
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:25,440
that's how we do it here uh well

1004
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,000
granddaughters are coming up in july

1005
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:29,839
uh in the middle of july here in ontario

1006
00:34:32,869 --> 00:34:31,359
so if you're in toronto if you want to

1007
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:32,879
come down i'll be down there for three

1008
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:35,440
days you know i i will keep that in mind

1009
00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:36,960
if i have a chance to get up to toronto

1010
00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:38,000
in july

1011
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,839
at the royal ottawa hospital not the

1012
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:41,919
royal ottawa hospital

1013
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:44,800
the region's it's the the the fairmont

1014
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,440
royal hotel in downtown toronto and

1015
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,919
they've got they've got 15 or no 18 year

1016
00:34:54,149 --> 00:34:52,079
old scotch in the bar on the menu

1017
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,159
and i have to say is it was

1018
00:34:57,190 --> 00:34:55,679
it was glenn glenn fitting 18 it was so

1019
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,200
good i actually got it for my wedding i

1020
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,040
just had a bottle for myself and it was

1021
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,520
oh my goodness oh it makes the 12-year

1022
00:35:05,190 --> 00:35:03,359
you know it's it it makes it seem like

1023
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,200
gasoline in comparison it's beautiful

1024
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:07,599
good heavens the 12 year is good oh no

1025
00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,599
that's smooth that's why i drink it

1026
00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,680
exactly no that's really good so okay

1027
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,520
i'm keeping that in mind

1028
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,839
now going like speaking at least of you

1029
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,359
know esotericism

1030
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,200
i gotta give you this isn't sure well

1031
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,560
this is a beautiful part like we've we

1032
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:23,040
used to structure our shows a lot

1033
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,079
and it was great for organization

1034
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:28,400
but in terms of

1035
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:29,680
we just kind of went to like an open you

1036
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:30,960
know

1037
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,560
open conversation format and let it go

1038
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:34,160
wherever it goes because it's really

1039
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:35,359
entertaining

1040
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,480
um

1041
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:37,839
but you have two books that came out

1042
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,560
recently or at least they're coming out

1043
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,560
no i have actually one of them one of

1044
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,720
them is the one on the cobra alphabet

1045
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:46,480
that one's out now okay uh at least i

1046
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:47,599
have received i have received my

1047
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:49,359
author's copies and no that's right i've

1048
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,400
heard from a couple of people who got

1049
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,760
this so it is just hitting the stands

1050
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,800
right now

1051
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:54,560
and then the academy of the sword is

1052
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:57,680
also out it is actually reprint it was

1053
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,800
originally published by another

1054
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,720
publisher quite some years ago and the

1055
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,640
other publisher went splat in a

1056
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,400
complicated way and it's taken me a

1057
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,000
while to get it in print again but it is

1058
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,640
out again in a lovely new

1059
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:10,000
frankly better printing than the

1060
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,280
original

1061
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:13,200
and so i'm very happy with that but both

1062
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:16,079
of them are available and um our readers

1063
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:16,800
can

1064
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:20,320
copies as soon as they finish you know

1065
00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,480
listening to us well we have uh uh what

1066
00:36:26,470 --> 00:36:24,320
we do is we put the links to the books

1067
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:26,480
uh directly in the show notes so if

1068
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,880
people want to check it out now

1069
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,320
i wanted i wanted to bring these up well

1070
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:31,599
first of all because

1071
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,960
you know for anybody who comes on the

1072
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:35,440
show and for anybody who understands

1073
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,320
um

1074
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:38,640
this format of talk radio

1075
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:39,760
it's essentially we give you

1076
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,640
entertainment and it gives researchers

1077
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:44,560
the ability to to get their ideas and

1078
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,480
their thoughts out there and essentially

1079
00:36:50,069 --> 00:36:48,160
promote their book it's it that this is

1080
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,079
how the advertising world works

1081
00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:52,240
now free publicity and an opportunity

1082
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,920
have a pleasant conversation what's not

1083
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,240
alike pretty much now the thing is

1084
00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,599
especially with the academy of the sword

1085
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,359
even if it is a reprint

1086
00:37:03,430 --> 00:37:01,359
an entire

1087
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,440
sword fighting system

1088
00:37:07,910 --> 00:37:06,400
based off of sacred geometry like

1089
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,920
i put this in i'm like we have to talk

1090
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,280
about this [\h__\h] tonight like this is

1091
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:12,079
going oh yeah uh this

1092
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,440
this is this

1093
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,359
the academy of the sword like

1094
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,520
as it was originally um published in

1095
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:19,359
1630

1096
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,599
by gerard tibos the author um he was the

1097
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,680
he was kind of the bruce lee of the

1098
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,839
rapier in his time he was an extremely

1099
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,359
skilled swordsman

1100
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,800
um died young

1101
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:31,520
but

1102
00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,480
uh

1103
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,040
yeah he he basically

1104
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:37,520
well this okay we're talking renaissance

1105
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:39,920
europe late renaissance europe um the

1106
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:42,160
sword had become it was less of a

1107
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,599
military less of a military assault

1108
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,839
weapon in those days um dueling was more

1109
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,880
common

1110
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,359
firearms had come in and so a war had

1111
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:50,880
become a matter of pike and musket

1112
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,960
rather than you know knights in armor

1113
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:54,880
hacking each other with swords

1114
00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:58,000
and so the sword had been subjected to

1115
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,560
the same sort of intellectual inquiry

1116
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,480
and experimentation that the renaissance

1117
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:04,640
did in so many other fields

1118
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,119
and first in italy and then in spain you

1119
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:08,880
had people who started saying hold it

1120
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,480
you know we have these new swords which

1121
00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:12,240
are the repair which is long and

1122
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,560
straight and is used not to cut but stab

1123
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,839
mostly

1124
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,040
and

1125
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,720
it's geometrical

1126
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,079
it's a line

1127
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:22,000
and this line is intersecting another

1128
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,760
line the other guy's sword and it is

1129
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,680
piercing penetrating various surfaces of

1130
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:27,440
the other guy's body

1131
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,119
can we understand swordsmanship through

1132
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,960
geometry

1133
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,359
and so you had this whole movement to

1134
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:35,599
try to make sense of swordsmanship as a

1135
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,480
geometrical art at a time when geometry

1136
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,720
was was all through europe perfused with

1137
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,280
pythagorean influences with the ideas of

1138
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,960
sacred geometry with the same kind of

1139
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,520
ideas that led to freemasonry in fact

1140
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,720
and so

1141
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:50,560
um thibaut

1142
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:53,839
thibaut was born in what's now um part

1143
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:56,240
of belgium he was born in antwerp

1144
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:57,119
and

1145
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:59,200
went down to spain his family had was in

1146
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,640
the woolen trade and made connection to

1147
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,240
the south of spain and south of spain

1148
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:04,480
was a hotbed of fencing in these years

1149
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:05,599
you had

1150
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:07,280
just these brilliant swordsmen down

1151
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:08,400
there who were working with this

1152
00:39:11,910 --> 00:39:09,760
geometrical stuff

1153
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,920
and tebow goes down there and he's here

1154
00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:14,160
for like 10 years learning everything he

1155
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:16,160
can and then he comes back home

1156
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:17,280
and

1157
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,560
starts you know just sparring with

1158
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,000
people in the ordinary way of things

1159
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,440
there were

1160
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:23,359
basically gymnasium dojos we'd say

1161
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:24,400
nowadays

1162
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:25,280
where people would practice

1163
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,560
swordsmanship and other martial arts

1164
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,480
they were all over the place and all of

1165
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:30,000
a sudden people were going who is this

1166
00:39:35,190 --> 00:39:32,320
this tibo guy and why is he cleaning the

1167
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,200
floor with everybody

1168
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:37,359
and so finally he ended up taking part

1169
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:38,880
in the big the

1170
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:41,839
this big tournament in northwest in

1171
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,839
northwestern europe up in i think it was

1172
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,000
in antwerp actually and people came

1173
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,400
there from all from germany from france

1174
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:50,000
and he just literally wiped the floor

1175
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,160
with all of them

1176
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,880
now and um william of orange who was the

1177
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,160
the head of the dutch head of state

1178
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:57,599
right across the border in in the

1179
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,480
netherlands said okay come here

1180
00:40:04,550 --> 00:40:02,640
show me what you can do

1181
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:04,560
public free publicity rights equivalent

1182
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:07,599
podcast except so he proceeded to give a

1183
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:09,359
demonstration for three days where he

1184
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:10,800
took on all comers

1185
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,520
come on let's cross swords clunk now

1186
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:15,119
they were all doing it with blunted

1187
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:16,560
points so there were no corpses at the

1188
00:40:19,829 --> 00:40:18,000
end of this process but had it been

1189
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,839
sharp the the you know it's like a

1190
00:40:23,109 --> 00:40:21,839
shakespearean play the the you know the

1191
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,119
theater strewn with russia's in the

1192
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:25,280
first act of corpses in the fifth

1193
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,000
um and so he ended up as literally the

1194
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,920
most famous swordsman in his time

1195
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,359
he set out because his health was his

1196
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:33,359
health was not good he'd originally been

1197
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,359
sent down down to spain to try to

1198
00:40:38,870 --> 00:40:36,720
recover his health he wouldn't actually

1199
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:38,880
take it out for sensing as exercise to

1200
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:40,800
try to build his health but so he's set

1201
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,040
to work to write this book and it is

1202
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:46,320
actually the largest single book on

1203
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:49,119
on swordsmanship ever written

1204
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:50,720
that's insane in english translation

1205
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:54,079
it's about 120 000 words

1206
00:41:00,309 --> 00:40:57,680
it has what is it 54 double-sided

1207
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,319
two-play page copper plate engravings

1208
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,319
each of which has between 12 and 20

1209
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:03,839
techniques on it

1210
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,880
and it's just this monumental

1211
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,680
encyclopedic book

1212
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,920
on how to fight with a rape with a with

1213
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,000
a 17th century repair

1214
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:14,000
um especially in those

1215
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,119
because you're essentially wearing a

1216
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,760
corset with like pant loons or shorts

1217
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,560
which are look like a skirt and no pants

1218
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:22,240
and very small shoes and i've got no no

1219
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,920
you no you've got you've got you've got

1220
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,359
hoes on you okay well you've got her

1221
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,680
okay so i've got the hose on you've got

1222
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,440
shoes you've got hose now some of the

1223
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,839
some of the people in his in the car in

1224
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:33,440
the color plated gravy are wearing next

1225
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:34,480
to nothing so you can see all the

1226
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,240
muscles

1227
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,240
well there you go but

1228
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,319
but in but in actual practice again this

1229
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,640
is 16 30 okay we're moving away from the

1230
00:41:47,829 --> 00:41:44,800
sort of elizabethan look with the big

1231
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:47,839
rough colors and the big puppy you know

1232
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:49,760
peas cod doublets and all this kind of

1233
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,119
stuff and toward

1234
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:54,240
um the sort of english civil war period

1235
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:57,040
um look but hadn't gotten there yet so

1236
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,560
yeah you have these these sort of these

1237
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,040
sort of puffed uh short panel wounds the

1238
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:03,119
long hose and the doublets

1239
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,960
laced up tight to the neck

1240
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,720
and and you know sleeved in this kind of

1241
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,480
stuff yeah yeah i've got a picture of it

1242
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:10,160
i've actually have a picture from the

1243
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,200
book that i found on on google and the

1244
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,720
it's essentially the

1245
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,079
i think they're in training in the in

1246
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,640
this image uh there's they're standing

1247
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,560
across one another swords outstretched

1248
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,560
and pointing at one another and they're

1249
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:24,079
wearing you know they're wearing

1250
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:25,440
something that that looks like it's out

1251
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:28,800
of while my my 10th grade drama class um

1252
00:42:32,870 --> 00:42:30,880
exactly there are there are four on each

1253
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,880
side right that's correct yes okay it's

1254
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,960
that's that's the introductory um image

1255
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,960
from chapter three where he's showing

1256
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:38,960
you the what the stance is like and how

1257
00:42:44,470 --> 00:42:40,880
you enter into it

1258
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:44,480
okay now where where exactly well where

1259
00:42:49,270 --> 00:42:47,040
did exactly did he get the idea for this

1260
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,280
like for for this system like is it is

1261
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,800
there any reference as far as the origin

1262
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,000
for it

1263
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,400
oh yeah again it this came out of the

1264
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:56,240
the whole that whole what i was talking

1265
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:58,240
about earlier the whole scene first in

1266
00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:00,160
italy and then in spain where people

1267
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,280
were

1268
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,960
doing developing these systems of

1269
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:04,560
geometrical fencing and they were doing

1270
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:05,280
it

1271
00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,319
totally okay to call someone out for a

1272
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,480
duel and kill them

1273
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,640
over some insult

1274
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:17,200
you know you elbowed me sir

1275
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,480
i will see you on the field of honor and

1276
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,079
you don't kill each other

1277
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,839
and this is legal it was commonly

1278
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,240
practiced it happened all the time so if

1279
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,319
you were a member you know a gentleman

1280
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,400
in one of the classes that was

1281
00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:30,400
at risk of dueling

1282
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,880
you either learned to use a sword or

1283
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:34,720
you started raping money for your

1284
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,400
tombstone

1285
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:38,160
because things like that happen all the

1286
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:42,319
time and so in that viciously darwinian

1287
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:44,000
environment where you you know if you

1288
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,359
knew how to use a sword you were going

1289
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:47,440
to you were going to survive and

1290
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:49,440
and thrive and prosper and if you didn't

1291
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:50,720
you would croak

1292
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,520
um this spanish system became extremely

1293
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:55,839
widespread and very popular and tebow

1294
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,400
again he he developed it in some ways

1295
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:59,520
originally

1296
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,480
put in some new material um gave it his

1297
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:05,119
own spin but it's very much part of this

1298
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,800
broader world

1299
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,960
of old-fashioned repair fencing that

1300
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,440
went out around 1700

1301
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:12,640
except in spain where it actually

1302
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:18,150
sorry just

1303
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:19,280
that's a problem whenever you you

1304
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,560
breathe in too quickly so you get a

1305
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,000
little spit in there it goes down the

1306
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,560
wrong hole and you're done

1307
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:26,880
i've always found like around this time

1308
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:29,119
that that this um

1309
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:31,359
type of fencing came about and it came

1310
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,560
about essentially

1311
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:34,319
because carrying large swords around and

1312
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:36,640
covering yourself in plate armor was no

1313
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:38,240
longer really feasible especially with

1314
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,280
guns

1315
00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,680
so it was is a waste a waste of time

1316
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,599
when some peasant with two weeks of

1317
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,520
training could point a musket at you and

1318
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,680
put a musket ball through the best armor

1319
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,599
in europe and out the other side

1320
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,680
and you're dead on the field why bother

1321
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,680
with armor

1322
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,599
so everyone just everyone just kind of

1323
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,960
scrapped the plate armor except me you

1324
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:58,640
know maybe a breastplate and helmet or

1325
00:45:02,230 --> 00:44:59,760
something if you

1326
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,240
were expecting to deal with swords a lot

1327
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:05,119
how familiar with with martial arts

1328
00:45:09,589 --> 00:45:07,599
um very i've studied i actually have i

1329
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:09,599
actually have um

1330
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:11,599
basic teaching credentials in one of the

1331
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,400
old styles of tai chi okay so

1332
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,160
essentially this is this is kind of the

1333
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,680
the fencing equivalent or sword fighting

1334
00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:19,359
equivalent of

1335
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,119
you know everyone's got tai chi

1336
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,520
or or you know wing chun you know tiger

1337
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,359
style all that and then let's say bruce

1338
00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:26,880
lee comes along and comes out with jit

1339
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:28,800
kundo that was

1340
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:32,880
essentially that that same level of no

1341
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:35,280
nuts well again the the thing to keep in

1342
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,720
mind is that the people up in

1343
00:45:41,670 --> 00:45:38,560
northwestern europe had never really

1344
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,680
been exposed to the spanish and and

1345
00:45:46,230 --> 00:45:43,680
italian ideas it was more what happened

1346
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:46,240
to the united states when you know we

1347
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,680
had a lot of boxing and wrestling and

1348
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,880
things and all of a sudden some people

1349
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,160
start coming over who have gung-fu

1350
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:52,079
training

1351
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,839
and all of a sudden

1352
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:56,079
what the heck was that

1353
00:45:59,320 --> 00:45:57,119
um

1354
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,330
in terms of a martial art

1355
00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:01,680
[Music]

1356
00:46:05,589 --> 00:46:03,760
gerard tubo's teachings is rather more

1357
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,599
similar to a classical gungfu system

1358
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:08,160
than it is to say jeet kune do because

1359
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,640
jeet kune do is very spontaneous

1360
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,359
and tibo's system is very formal is very

1361
00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,119
structured

1362
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,760
and so although he doesn't the the kata

1363
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:20,000
if you will the the form the established

1364
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:21,440
form had not yet gotten going in

1365
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:24,319
european martial arts yet um he gives

1366
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,079
specific techniques it's actually very

1367
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,640
similar in a lot of ways to the koryu

1368
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,200
the the classical japanese martial arts

1369
00:46:37,030 --> 00:46:33,680
forms from the samurai era

1370
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:38,550
how do we know that it was

1371
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,560
that was based on sacred geometry is it

1372
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:42,480
is it completely stated that it's like

1373
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,880
well you know i got these like i've been

1374
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,119
observing nature and these lines are

1375
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:48,960
based on this or

1376
00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:52,319
uh it's more that he starts you out by

1377
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:55,119
showing you how to draw a circle based

1378
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,640
on your own height and the length of

1379
00:46:58,950 --> 00:46:58,160
your sword which is

1380
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:58,960
and

1381
00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,240
um set up a whole series of lines across

1382
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,200
it and um dividing it and so on and

1383
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:07,520
every movement you make is based on

1384
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:09,280
positions of the circle and geometrical

1385
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,400
lines

1386
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:12,319
and he's constantly talking geometry

1387
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,760
he's constantly quoting he quotes

1388
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,680
carnelius agrippa the author of three

1389
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,440
books of local philosophy extensively on

1390
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,839
the geometry of the human body

1391
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,839
so was he was he

1392
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:24,480
rosicrucian or uh nobody knows nobody

1393
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:25,599
knows

1394
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:28,960
well the thing is in 1630 nobody talked

1395
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,400
if you i mean everyone talked about the

1396
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,160
rosicrucians but everybody who was

1397
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:33,760
involved to it said well i you know i'm

1398
00:47:36,829 --> 00:47:35,280
interested this this stuff is

1399
00:47:39,270 --> 00:47:36,839
fascinating but of course i'm not a

1400
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:39,280
rosicrucian tebow never mentioned it

1401
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,880
um

1402
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,720
i would say that

1403
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:44,720
you know if you want to look at people

1404
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:48,160
in the early 1700s the the original seed

1405
00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:50,079
bed of the rosicrucian movement who were

1406
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:52,240
likely to have been involved in it uh

1407
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,839
tibo's one

1408
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,599
um you know there are others robert

1409
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,880
flaud michael meyer all these other

1410
00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:59,040
people but tebow was very much part of

1411
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,640
that same cultural movement and so it's

1412
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:02,720
entirely possible that you know here we

1413
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:05,200
have our surviving manual of rosicrucian

1414
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,400
martial hearts

1415
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,920
what is the difference between let's say

1416
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,319
freemasonry and and rosicrucianism i i

1417
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,319
have family members who apparently at

1418
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,119
least again i love them to death i need

1419
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:16,880
they claim to be rosicrucians or at

1420
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,359
least in their christians where they are

1421
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:21,119
i don't know for sure

1422
00:48:24,390 --> 00:48:22,880
because i've i we don't have at least

1423
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,400
anything to my knowledge here in in

1424
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:26,960
ottawa there probably is

1425
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,200
there's lots oh okay well i haven't i've

1426
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,119
been i have not gone out looking i can

1427
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:33,359
hardly deal with blue log scottish right

1428
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,240
uh you know and the various uh uh

1429
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,559
charity events that i do

1430
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,319
get concerned you're already hopping

1431
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,960
okay basically the the thing the thing

1432
00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:44,720
to remember with the rosicrucians

1433
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,800
is that there was the original movement

1434
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:48,720
in 17th century europe

1435
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,000
you know the the original three

1436
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,160
rosicrucian manifestos the proclamation

1437
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:54,800
of the rosicrucian brotherhood

1438
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,160
all the furor back and forth of that

1439
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,480
by the next century you know there were

1440
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,720
specific organizations in central europe

1441
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:04,160
and elsewhere although nobody knows if

1442
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,520
they were connected to the original

1443
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:06,720
group

1444
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,800
and then by the 20th century you have

1445
00:49:12,710 --> 00:49:10,400
groups springing up all over the place

1446
00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,720
that are borrowing the rosicrucian name

1447
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:14,319
whether or not they have any connection

1448
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,359
to the historical group there are

1449
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:20,079
let's see that i know of four major

1450
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,760
rosicrucian groups still very active in

1451
00:49:24,549 --> 00:49:23,599
north america

1452
00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:24,559
and

1453
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:25,839
um

1454
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,599
they they teach they teach various

1455
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:29,200
systems of esoteric philosophy which

1456
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,880
they claim date back to the original

1457
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,319
rose of christian order in some cases

1458
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:33,760
before that as well

1459
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:35,359
and that you know they have they all

1460
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:37,599
claim to be the real authentic original

1461
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:39,119
secretions just like some old druid

1462
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,559
groups claim to be the real authentic

1463
00:49:45,510 --> 00:49:42,960
ancient druids um they're probably not

1464
00:49:46,790 --> 00:49:45,520
but most of them do really have useful

1465
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,800
things to teach

1466
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,280
so if you ever find yourself with with

1467
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,720
you know spare time to rub together talk

1468
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,319
to your relatives

1469
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,079
ask me you know ask them for ask them

1470
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,720
for a you know um if they have a little

1471
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:58,079
introductory pamphlet or something on

1472
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,599
that you might be interested well it's a

1473
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:01,040
possibility to have to ask him to scan

1474
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:01,920
it because he doesn't live in this

1475
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,920
continent

1476
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:05,839
but still if that's the case like i know

1477
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,880
that he

1478
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,720
um when the last time i went to go visit

1479
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,839
visit them

1480
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,200
they had

1481
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,280
he was either in it or was just entering

1482
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,880
into it and

1483
00:50:19,030 --> 00:50:17,040
from what i can recall it he had told me

1484
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:19,040
that there are

1485
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:21,040
it's like what i would wish a an your

1486
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,640
average freemason

1487
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,480
um like your average for base tonight if

1488
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,880
there's no degrees to do to be which is

1489
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,800
essentially lecture

1490
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,400
like presenting a lecture or at least

1491
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,000
starting a discussion based on an idea

1492
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,640
or concept to try and get people to the

1493
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:36,480
core of an idea so that we can educate

1494
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,839
ourselves as well as our fellow brethren

1495
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:41,680
um you know as you know doesn't

1496
00:50:45,190 --> 00:50:43,040
necessarily happen all the time but what

1497
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,200
are you going to do

1498
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:47,599
whereas he said no we have to

1499
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:50,160
give several on a on a constant basis

1500
00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:51,760
and we have to research them and they

1501
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:53,440
have to be very good

1502
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:54,400
and

1503
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,599
he didn't he didn't go much more into

1504
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:02,710
if it's if it's philosophical

1505
00:51:06,870 --> 00:51:04,230
i have to say from a history standpoint

1506
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,880
the history is always great it's

1507
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:08,880
more the practicality of it is it more

1508
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,559
just a pure

1509
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,000
knowledge-based

1510
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:14,960
system or is it is it

1511
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,599
it depends on which group it is okay um

1512
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,359
let's see of the reservation of the the

1513
00:51:23,349 --> 00:51:21,359
four residual orders that i know of that

1514
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,359
are still in circulation let's see the

1515
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,480
fraternitas rosacruzis

1516
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,640
um i don't know what they teach they're

1517
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,880
they're teaching nothing has leaked out

1518
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:32,319
um the ancient mystical ordeal

1519
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,440
rosacrusis um i've i know some people

1520
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:37,280
who are who are heavily involved in that

1521
00:51:40,950 --> 00:51:38,800
or who have been heavily involved in and

1522
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,960
that has a very definite uh practical

1523
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:42,640
esoteric dimension

1524
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,040
um the rosicrucian fellowship teaches a

1525
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:46,880
lot of astrology that's one of their

1526
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:48,800
main focus astrology and a kind of kind

1527
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:50,960
of christian esoteric philosophy

1528
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:54,400
and the let's see the other one is the

1529
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:55,200
um

1530
00:52:00,870 --> 00:51:57,839
societal sort of crucial in america

1531
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,880
which um is not not the same the long

1532
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,480
complicated story there but then they

1533
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,480
teach a really comprehensive

1534
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,960
system of you know esoteric and occult

1535
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:08,640
philosophy and practice

1536
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,920
you do a lot of meditating and things

1537
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,880
like that

1538
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:12,880
and

1539
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:14,640
internal probability you're getting

1540
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,839
something you're getting something more

1541
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,240
than just history okay and and to to to

1542
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:19,680
what purpose at least for myself i know

1543
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:22,400
that the major claim behind freemasonry

1544
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:23,920
is making good men better

1545
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,190
and even for the the the druidic orders

1546
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,760
uh i'm assuming it it's very

1547
00:52:36,950 --> 00:52:34,880
um

1548
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,960
really earth connecting in in terms of

1549
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,400
the lessons

1550
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:41,200
yeah the the idea of the idea of druidry

1551
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:42,800
the idea of drawdry is basically i mean

1552
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,480
again and again ask three druids get

1553
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:47,119
five answers we are not um orthodoxy is

1554
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,720
not the way we do things

1555
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,760
um

1556
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,760
and so you know but

1557
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,680
yeah the the thing about the

1558
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:55,359
one of the core ideas behind druidry is

1559
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,079
simply that um human beings think

1560
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:00,160
they're separate from nature human human

1561
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,680
beings think that there are many human

1562
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,040
beings think that they're not part of

1563
00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:04,559
the natural world that we're somehow

1564
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,119
outside it and when we try to pretend

1565
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,200
that even of ourselves we're first we're

1566
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,400
a wrong and be a little crazy and so

1567
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:14,319
a lot of what druidry is about is

1568
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,680
getting in touch with nature and

1569
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,440
recognizing that human nature is part of

1570
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,880
nature

1571
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,160
um

1572
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:21,599
it's

1573
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,640
ways because so many people are focused

1574
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:25,920
on the idea of

1575
00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,720
you know becoming better by hacking off

1576
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:30,319
portions of themselves there's this idea

1577
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,920
of this puritan idea that we have

1578
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:33,920
especially in the united states given

1579
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:37,599
our our puritan ancestry that um the way

1580
00:53:42,390 --> 00:53:40,880
you become good is to find the bad thing

1581
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:42,400
and to get rid of it and that makes you

1582
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,839
good we apply it to everything in

1583
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:46,240
america watch the way people talk about

1584
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:49,359
food it's all what is the bad food is it

1585
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:52,000
sugar is it cholesterol is it what is it

1586
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:54,720
lectins are now the latest fat um you

1587
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,839
find the bad food the devil of the food

1588
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,440
and you you banish it from your life and

1589
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,960
that makes you good

1590
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,800
um back in victorian times of course it

1591
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:04,640
was sex you

1592
00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:06,079
get rid of sex or pretend to get rid of

1593
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:09,440
sex more likely and that makes you good

1594
00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:10,800
druidry

1595
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:12,160
looks at goodness as wholeness and

1596
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,920
balance not as not as some kind of

1597
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:16,079
amputation you know are you going to

1598
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,319
have sex of course but you do it in a

1599
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,200
balanced way you do it in in a way that

1600
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:23,119
is respectful and to everyone involved

1601
00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:24,640
it doesn't involve breaking promises or

1602
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,240
any this kind of nonsense

1603
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:27,839
um

1604
00:54:32,390 --> 00:54:30,480
the druid diet we make jokes about this

1605
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,400
sometimes the druid diet consists of

1606
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,480
eating what makes your body feel healthy

1607
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,880
whether or not it's what some some guy

1608
00:54:39,750 --> 00:54:38,400
in a white live coat claims he want to

1609
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:39,760
eat

1610
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:42,000
um so along along that line of thinking

1611
00:54:44,790 --> 00:54:42,880
and i'm just going to give you a

1612
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,800
hypothetical here and again please do

1613
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,839
not take offense by this because i

1614
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,839
always take things right to the extreme

1615
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,240
the the biology okay

1616
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,040
so by that not by that and i understand

1617
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,680
probably splitting hairs here uh by that

1618
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,040
logic

1619
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:59,040
and my line of thinking is okay if let's

1620
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:01,760
say uh you know sex is sex is good

1621
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,200
because you will re

1622
00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:05,200
reproduce it's a way of of bonding with

1623
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,559
your partner et cetera et cetera et

1624
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,640
cetera but at the same time you wouldn't

1625
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:10,640
want to like let's say

1626
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:12,000
like you don't

1627
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,599
you you don't be an [\h__\h] about it you

1628
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,920
treat people with respect you you

1629
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,920
you know consent all that

1630
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,040
so

1631
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,599
like sex let's say going on a you know a

1632
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,280
seven day meth bender and then going to

1633
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:24,960
a you know a sex club for the entire

1634
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,599
time probably not the most wholesome

1635
00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:29,760
thing on the planet um at the same time

1636
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:31,839
if if you know if if you're able to

1637
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,720
handle it then then by all means um and

1638
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:37,040
the the thing is no go go ahead i'm

1639
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:38,079
sorry you're probably not finished with

1640
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:38,960
your

1641
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,200
it's but again the society looks at

1642
00:55:44,790 --> 00:55:43,359
uh both of those like well a lot of

1643
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:44,800
society think looks at both of those

1644
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:46,240
things as something that's immoral or

1645
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:47,920
negative or what have you or it makes

1646
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:49,760
them uncomfortable and because it makes

1647
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,960
them uncomfortable they attribute it to

1648
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,400
something else or they just realize

1649
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:53,680
that's not for me and that's that's all

1650
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,880
well and good um yeah yeah like it's the

1651
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:58,799
same thing to a lot of to a lot of other

1652
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,160
people and a lot of other you know

1653
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:02,480
things like if i'm going to eat sugar uh

1654
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,240
if i'm going to

1655
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,000
have a a cookie if you're now and again

1656
00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:08,960
that's great i have 50. oh dreadful yeah

1657
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,760
like if those damn girl guide illuminati

1658
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,920
um

1659
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:16,240
and sell me their their double stash

1660
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,839
then you know that's bad because then

1661
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:20,000
i've spent 50 bucks and my wife is going

1662
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:20,799
why the hell do you eat all the

1663
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:21,599
chocolates

1664
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:24,480
chris lizard treats but you you tell

1665
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:25,920
that to the girl guides who are like man

1666
00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:27,280
they're good you know you got your help

1667
00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,319
you're helping

1668
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:31,280
troop

1669
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:33,119
get somewhere and you have to support

1670
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:34,960
the community and if i have to kill

1671
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,440
myself you know of gluttony to help

1672
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:39,599
those little kids who have brainwashed

1673
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:44,160
me and have probably you know some some

1674
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:45,280
you know reptilian mothership they're

1675
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,200
going back to with their cookies serving

1676
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:49,920
the central bank

1677
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,520
how do you think how did the central

1678
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:53,119
chocolate bank yeah well there has to be

1679
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:54,400
a lot of research that makes those

1680
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,599
things to make them taste so goddamn

1681
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,720
good

1682
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,880
um

1683
00:57:02,789 --> 00:57:00,720
and the thing is one of the other things

1684
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:02,799
that you get with the puritan mindset

1685
00:57:08,950 --> 00:57:05,520
that we that we all absorb from um you

1686
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,960
know from our our ancestry in sort of

1687
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,920
the the

1688
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:11,599
the greater the greater anglophone

1689
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:14,960
culture sphere is the puritan mindset

1690
00:57:19,430 --> 00:57:17,839
chaos has i think that's been defined as

1691
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,440
the shuddering

1692
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:22,240
nerve-wracking unstoppable terror that

1693
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:26,720
someone somewhere is having a good time

1694
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,720
our societies are terrified of simple

1695
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,480
enjoyment

1696
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:32,400
you know if you enjoy something it's got

1697
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,680
to be bad or you've got to come up with

1698
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:35,359
some kind of justification for it you

1699
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:38,640
know eating chocolate it has to be evil

1700
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:41,599
because it's enjoyable and that's a if

1701
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:43,280
you want if you want to be really

1702
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:45,520
neurotic that's not a bad way to do it

1703
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,599
and if you want to get people really bad

1704
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,960
out of shape so that you can bully them

1705
00:57:53,589 --> 00:57:51,200
around into doing things um that's also

1706
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:53,599
a good way to do about it and and

1707
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:54,480
but

1708
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:55,920
you know druids kind of look at that and

1709
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:58,240
say okay what's the point

1710
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,799
if you and you know um

1711
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:02,480
if you enjoy something and it's not

1712
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:05,520
hurting anybody and or if it's hurting

1713
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,000
you know if it's potentially harmful to

1714
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:09,359
you but you're willing to take the

1715
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,440
consequences of it like you know binging

1716
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:13,520
on the binging on those cookies okay

1717
00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,640
it's going to it might expand your

1718
00:58:17,829 --> 00:58:16,240
waistline a little it might rot your

1719
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:17,839
teeth okay

1720
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:19,599
if you're going you're saying dancing

1721
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:21,359
sky clad if you eat too much chocolate

1722
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,079
right well the hey i've seen i have seen

1723
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:26,079
plenty of people dancing skyclad in

1724
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:27,599
every

1725
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:33,680
skeletally thin to um very round and

1726
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,720
the thing is

1727
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,400
druids are the ones who keep their robes

1728
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,880
on in ritual

1729
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,720
remember that ladies and gents so and

1730
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:42,880
thanks especially for if you like a

1731
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:45,760
certain shape that's great and if

1732
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:48,480
fantastic i know for myself there are

1733
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,680
certain types of round i would rather

1734
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:51,520
see with the robe off

1735
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:52,799
and then on

1736
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:55,520
or if it is off and it is the wrong type

1737
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:57,040
of round i'm hoping that it's hypnotic

1738
00:59:00,630 --> 00:58:59,440
and i just fall asleep

1739
00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:00,640
just saying

1740
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:03,040
i just you know my response is basically

1741
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:04,319
human being human beings and they come

1742
00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,040
in a lot of different shapes it's not my

1743
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:09,359
business to worry about that the other

1744
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,119
thing of course about the about those

1745
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:13,520
evil chocolate cookies by the way

1746
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,200
is that you know as well as i do that

1747
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:17,280
within oh five years to the outside the

1748
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:18,960
physicians will have changed their minds

1749
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,160
completely as to whether it's good for

1750
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:21,760
you or not

1751
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,319
i mean i remember when poly unsaturated

1752
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:26,559
fats were good for you and um all

1753
00:59:30,470 --> 00:59:28,559
cholesterol was bad that wasn't that

1754
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,480
long ago

1755
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,920
it seems like we're missing the

1756
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:33,680
instruments to look at our own health

1757
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,799
better

1758
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,559
yeah a lot of it's going to be based off

1759
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,079
of one

1760
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:40,559
researcher and even though at this point

1761
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:41,680
we have

1762
00:59:44,710 --> 00:59:42,880
a lot of evidence that has been

1763
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,720
presented a lot of news that has come

1764
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,359
out where research papers are being

1765
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:49,839
falsified regularly okay

1766
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:51,920
fanta in fantastic numbers yeah and i

1767
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:57,910
but yeah

1768
01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:00,400
well the way that i've heard the general

1769
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:01,760
rule of thumb if you go to the grocery

1770
01:00:05,829 --> 01:00:03,359
store stay to the outside if you're

1771
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,839
going to the inside you're you're you

1772
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:07,920
know going to that that dark place

1773
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:09,119
um

1774
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:11,760
non-processed foods as much as possible

1775
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,480
you know

1776
01:00:16,150 --> 01:00:15,040
food why okay again it's a fear of

1777
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,160
pleasure

1778
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,760
eating is enjoyable or at least it

1779
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:19,040
should be if you're if you're actually

1780
01:00:24,150 --> 01:00:21,440
eating food rather than the sort of um

1781
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,160
plastic processed food type substance

1782
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,400
being extruded for you by you know some

1783
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:28,640
industrial what do you call it um food

1784
01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:30,400
is pleasurable so of course people get

1785
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:33,119
all pure and get terrified of it

1786
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:35,359
let's not why don't we just say okay you

1787
01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,599
know one of the things that one of the

1788
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:39,119
benefits of being alive is that we get

1789
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:51,109
you know um druidry

1790
01:00:54,789 --> 01:00:52,799
probably more druids

1791
01:00:56,309 --> 01:00:54,799
except reincarnation than not again we

1792
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:56,319
don't have much in the orthodoxy and

1793
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,680
that's certainly not one of them but

1794
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:59,200
reincarnation is pretty generally

1795
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:01,839
accepted in druids but you know okay so

1796
01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:02,799
you're going to be back that doesn't

1797
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:04,160
change the fact you're here now what are

1798
01:01:07,990 --> 01:01:06,240
you going to do with it

1799
01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:08,000
what are you going to do with your life

1800
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:09,200
are you going to accomplish some good in

1801
01:01:12,150 --> 01:01:10,720
the world i hope so

1802
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:12,160
are you going to have a good time i hope

1803
01:01:14,789 --> 01:01:13,200
so

1804
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,799
um are you going to learn a few things

1805
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:16,799
well yeah and so

1806
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:18,000
well unless you're a cicada which then

1807
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:19,599
you're screwed

1808
01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:21,440
or not if well sorry if you're not then

1809
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:22,799
your life has been a waste if you are

1810
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:24,400
then at least you know your your five

1811
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:28,400
minutes of being alive are fine um but

1812
01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:29,920
if you fight the thing is we think of

1813
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:31,280
those five minutes that's five minutes

1814
01:01:35,510 --> 01:01:33,920
by as we experience time how much

1815
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:35,520
experience do they get in that five

1816
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,470
i mean a mayfly lives for less than a

1817
01:01:44,069 --> 01:01:42,400
day but its nervous system is moving

1818
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:44,079
very quickly during that time

1819
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:45,839
it could live through an entire life

1820
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:47,520
worth of what we consider a life worth

1821
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:49,359
of experience

1822
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:50,640
in that you know

1823
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:53,359
in that less than a day an elephant and

1824
01:01:56,390 --> 01:01:54,799
a mouse have the same number of

1825
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:56,400
heartbeats in their life or something

1826
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,640
yeah exactly yeah exactly and very

1827
01:02:01,190 --> 01:01:59,760
likely

1828
01:02:02,549 --> 01:02:01,200
you know they have the same amount of

1829
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,559
experience it's just differently

1830
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:04,400
arranged if you're a mouse

1831
01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:07,440
day and night are these immense long

1832
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:09,040
cycles

1833
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:10,240
if you're an elephant they move kind of

1834
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,000
quickly if you're a tortoise there's a

1835
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:14,400
blurring past

1836
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:15,520
what what are

1837
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,400
because i know certain um

1838
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,640
essentially mainstream satanism

1839
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:22,160
from what i can understand it and they

1840
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:23,680
don't well and here hear me out here at

1841
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,760
least from my understanding and again

1842
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,680
so mainstream satanism does not actually

1843
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,359
they're they're called satanists yet

1844
01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:31,520
they don't actually worship satan so the

1845
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:34,000
the flaming you know fire and the

1846
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,520
picture of the dark lord may his eternal

1847
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:37,359
fires burn forever

1848
01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:39,119
um

1849
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:41,920
they are more along the lines of

1850
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,640
do whatever you need to do

1851
01:02:49,349 --> 01:02:46,559
uh but like as long as you're hurting

1852
01:02:51,990 --> 01:02:49,359
anybody type of thing okay it depends on

1853
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:52,000
your satanist true okay

1854
01:02:54,549 --> 01:02:52,880
um

1855
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:54,559
these days you have traditional

1856
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:56,559
satanists who basically take

1857
01:03:00,069 --> 01:02:58,160
christianity and stand it on their heads

1858
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,079
and they do worship worship the devil

1859
01:03:04,470 --> 01:03:02,480
they who they consider as the the god of

1860
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,480
freedom and liberation and things like

1861
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:06,480
that okay they're one group they're

1862
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:07,760
really having they're really having a

1863
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,960
hard time these days by the way and

1864
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:10,960
that's largely because of vatican ii

1865
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:13,119
um i mean most these are the people who

1866
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:14,799
do the black mass right

1867
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:22,230
how can you satirize something how can

1868
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,160
you satirize a guitar mass you know in

1869
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:25,839
any way that it doesn't already satirize

1870
01:03:31,190 --> 01:03:28,000
itself so traditional satanism is in

1871
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:31,200
kind of a bad way you have the satanism

1872
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:33,119
allah um

1873
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,400
anton zandor lavey whose actual name was

1874
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:38,240
howard stanton levy

1875
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:39,359
um

1876
01:03:41,589 --> 01:03:40,240
and

1877
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:41,599
who um

1878
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,839
discovered the

1879
01:03:45,750 --> 01:03:43,920
the um

1880
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:45,760
they discovered the remarkable fact that

1881
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:48,400
posing as a big bad evil satanist would

1882
01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:50,160
get jane mansfield to take off her

1883
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,680
clothes in your living room

1884
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:53,760
you know that strong men well that must

1885
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:56,640
strong men have succumbed too much lost

1886
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,720
temptation so essentially he was heavy

1887
01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:00,160
metal before heavy metal was actually

1888
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:01,760
figured this out and said if we do this

1889
01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,880
in our show

1890
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:04,000
the parents will be pissed off but the

1891
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:05,119
kids will love it because the parents

1892
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:06,559
hate it

1893
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:08,480
yeah exactly the thing is he he was he

1894
01:04:11,510 --> 01:04:10,079
was there long beach the thing is that

1895
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:11,520
whole thing has been going on for a very

1896
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,400
long time if you look through the

1897
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:13,920
history of religion whatever the hot new

1898
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:16,559
religion is it's got to shock your mom

1899
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:17,760
if it doesn't shock you or that's one of

1900
01:04:21,109 --> 01:04:19,119
the reasons wicca is in such trouble

1901
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:21,119
these days has become too too normal too

1902
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:23,039
mainstream it's lost its mom shocking

1903
01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:25,039
potential well because moms are wiccan

1904
01:04:29,430 --> 01:04:27,760
now so exactly there and you know

1905
01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:29,440
exactly how dull so of course all the

1906
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:31,359
kids are going to do something else now

1907
01:04:37,029 --> 01:04:33,680
but so you have this the the anton

1908
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,039
sandor levy thing which is basically um

1909
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,680
uh anne rand's objectivism

1910
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,359
dressed up in a devil suit most of his

1911
01:04:45,109 --> 01:04:43,440
satanic bible is ripped off from from

1912
01:04:46,950 --> 01:04:45,119
randy and objectivism

1913
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:46,960
which

1914
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:50,559
then you have the people nowadays who

1915
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:52,640
are who are doing the temple of satan

1916
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:55,920
thing who are actually mostly atheists

1917
01:04:59,670 --> 01:04:57,760
and are doing it to try to in in this

1918
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:59,680
country at least to make fun of the

1919
01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:02,240
religious right and to try to take all

1920
01:05:05,910 --> 01:05:04,240
of these various laws intended for the

1921
01:05:09,670 --> 01:05:05,920
for the defense of traditional

1922
01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:09,680
christianity and because they can't as a

1923
01:05:14,150 --> 01:05:12,880
religious group they can't be excluded

1924
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:14,160
you know these are the people who are

1925
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,160
doing who are like getting statues of

1926
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:18,480
the devil reading to a pair of children

1927
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:19,920
and trying to get them put on courthouse

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01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,480
lawns and so on and so on so it's the

1929
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:23,839
equivalent and

1930
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:26,079
the kids are like the the people who are

1931
01:05:28,950 --> 01:05:27,520
that type of satanist are the ones that

1932
01:05:31,349 --> 01:05:28,960
are on 4chan

1933
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:31,359
and the people who worship the flying

1934
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:33,680
spaghetti monster are on

1935
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:36,319
uh what buzzfeed

1936
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:38,000
yeah pretty much okay yeah except

1937
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:39,280
actually actually the four the four

1938
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,280
channelers are a world unto themselves

1939
01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:43,039
i've actually ended up in conversations

1940
01:05:46,630 --> 01:05:44,880
with some of them as a result of my

1941
01:05:49,349 --> 01:05:46,640
blogs which which attracted the trickle

1942
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:49,359
of them and that's that is its own

1943
01:05:52,150 --> 01:05:50,640
planet

1944
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:52,160
and a very strange one but so you've got

1945
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,599
all these different peoples who are sort

1946
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,760
of quarreling over the ownership of

1947
01:05:59,510 --> 01:05:57,839
satan and who gets to call themselves

1948
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,520
satanists so what a satanist actually is

1949
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:01,440
in blood

1950
01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:05,039
um i really don't worry about it

1951
01:06:09,990 --> 01:06:07,359
it's not my religion you know it's like

1952
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:10,000
it's like the arguments between subsets

1953
01:06:12,870 --> 01:06:11,680
of baptists

1954
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:12,880
whatever

1955
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:14,880
now when you bring in people let's say

1956
01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:16,720
and again i'm not going to talk uh pike

1957
01:06:19,510 --> 01:06:18,640
here because

1958
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:19,520
the

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01:06:22,470 --> 01:06:20,559
that one

1960
01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:22,480
we could have we could have fun with

1961
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:24,480
that well okay let's go there then let's

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01:06:26,710 --> 01:06:25,520
go there

1963
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:26,720
um

1964
01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:29,119
every single time i've heard anybody try

1965
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:32,870
try and

1966
01:06:38,309 --> 01:06:35,119
talk down about freebase henry

1967
01:06:40,309 --> 01:06:38,319
they they will bring up our pikes quote

1968
01:06:42,390 --> 01:06:40,319
and yeah

1969
01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:42,400
which is pulled out of yeah pulled out

1970
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:44,799
of context and usually misquoted by the

1971
01:06:48,150 --> 01:06:46,720
way we're going yo uh what what is it

1972
01:06:49,829 --> 01:06:48,160
here i'm trying to find the exact quote

1973
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,839
here

1974
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:51,599
it's not actually in this

1975
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:52,880
well i'll find in a second but

1976
01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:54,960
essentially it's yeah for morals and

1977
01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,319
dogmas several hundred pages of

1978
01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,400
moral at dogmatic interpretations of

1979
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,160
freemasonry and essentially what that

1980
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,000
means is here are the morals and dogma

1981
01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:06,480
of this particular like of this ritual

1982
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,640
it's explaining what these morals are

1983
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:11,119
which is to be a good person etc etc now

1984
01:07:15,829 --> 01:07:14,640
i know the i'm trying to can i nope i

1985
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,839
actually tried to assert all i need to

1986
01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:17,280
do is to search lucifer and i can't

1987
01:07:22,230 --> 01:07:20,000
actually find it uh

1988
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:22,240
lucifer

1989
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:26,319
this okay this this will be good i'm

1990
01:07:29,990 --> 01:07:27,839
actually gonna show this page on screen

1991
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:30,000
just because it's that [\h__\h] hilarious

1992
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:31,599
um

1993
01:07:35,349 --> 01:07:33,039
there we go lucifer is the god of free

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01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,359
masonry let's see here

1995
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,160
uh is it in here

1996
01:07:41,750 --> 01:07:40,319
for 18 matches

1997
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,760
uh

1998
01:07:45,510 --> 01:07:43,119
when mason's learned that the key to the

1999
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,520
warrior on the block is the proper

2000
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:47,280
application of the dynamo of living

2001
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:49,520
power he has learned the mystery of his

2002
01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:52,640
craft the seething energies of lucifer

2003
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,319
are in his hands and before he may step

2004
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:58,640
onward and upward he must prove his

2005
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:01,039
ability to properly apply

2006
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,400
energy

2007
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,880
so um apparently yeah there there you go

2008
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:06,559
there's there's your luciferian powers

2009
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:07,680
right right

2010
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:08,640
now

2011
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:12,789
again

2012
01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,720
it's out of context and out of its

2013
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,560
historical context

2014
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,719
do you know that

2015
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:21,920
matches ordinary safety matches

2016
01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:23,920
in the early 19th century called

2017
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,440
lucifer's

2018
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:26,880
no

2019
01:08:29,590 --> 01:08:28,000
yeah

2020
01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:29,600
because they were lightbringers and

2021
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:31,679
that's what the word means lucifer one

2022
01:08:36,789 --> 01:08:34,319
who carries light one who brings light

2023
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:36,799
and so it was a much more flexible

2024
01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:38,880
concept he wasn't he's not saying that

2025
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:44,470
and this is the kind of thing that

2026
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:46,319
everybody interested people are dumb

2027
01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:47,520
these days

2028
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,480
um i this this would invol i don't know

2029
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:52,159
a canadian equivalent so i hope you'll

2030
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:54,799
forgive me but if if any of our any of

2031
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:57,040
our readers who are listeners who know

2032
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,799
their way around american history will

2033
01:09:02,470 --> 01:09:00,640
look up the lincoln douglas debates

2034
01:09:04,470 --> 01:09:02,480
these were debates between abraham

2035
01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,480
lincoln when he was a candidate for

2036
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:06,400
the senate and stephen douglas

2037
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:07,839
also a candidate

2038
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:10,400
and the two of them were debating in

2039
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,679
illinois

2040
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,839
in a senatorial campaign about issues

2041
01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:16,080
relating slavery okay and this was not

2042
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:17,679
some kind of highbrow thing they were

2043
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:20,400
you know in front of ordinary voters

2044
01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:21,359
um

2045
01:09:26,789 --> 01:09:24,080
you know slaughterhouse workers and feed

2046
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,799
you know mill workers this kind of stuff

2047
01:09:31,110 --> 01:09:28,799
and they had this series of debates

2048
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,120
which were intelligent

2049
01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:33,600
which discussed the issues which weren't

2050
01:09:36,950 --> 01:09:35,440
these we're going to feed you a question

2051
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:36,960
and let you babble about a result or

2052
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,279
something but it was actually a you know

2053
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,440
one-on-one debate

2054
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:43,440
that was intelligent and thoughtful and

2055
01:09:47,590 --> 01:09:45,520
meaningful and dressed the issues and

2056
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:47,600
used language that you know that went

2057
01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:49,920
beyond kindergarten level you compare

2058
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:51,040
that

2059
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,080
political debate nowadays in in your

2060
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,320
country as well as mine

2061
01:10:01,910 --> 01:10:00,640
it's it's humiliating

2062
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:01,920
people think we're progressing we're

2063
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,640
becoming more intelligent we're not

2064
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:06,960
to judge by the level of the level of

2065
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,480
public education and understanding to

2066
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:09,840
judge by the level of thoughts that

2067
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:12,640
people are able to process these days we

2068
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,679
are a lot dumber than people were in

2069
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:17,760
1858

2070
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:20,159
and for that reason albert pike was

2071
01:10:24,149 --> 01:10:21,679
writing in the late 19th century was

2072
01:10:25,270 --> 01:10:24,159
able to make references to lucifer the

2073
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:25,280
concept

2074
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,719
and people would get it and they

2075
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:27,920
wouldn't know perfectly well he's not

2076
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:29,679
talking about the christian devil

2077
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:31,440
well he's talking about a label that was

2078
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,520
used in many different ways and yet

2079
01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:35,520
nowadays people are so dense that all

2080
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:38,239
they could do is oh the devil

2081
01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:39,360
jeez

2082
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,719
well i'm going to go ahead i'm going to

2083
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:41,920
bring this up but every single time i'm

2084
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:44,719
not sure i guess there we go i

2085
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,719
pressed a series of hot keys and it

2086
01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:48,719
deleted one of my um

2087
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:50,320
one of my displays so i have to do this

2088
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:51,040
uh

2089
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,719
do this a little differently here so

2090
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,360
this like this is the the the wikipedia

2091
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:57,600
article on the tax quote i know taxable

2092
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,640
hooks

2093
01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,320
and i know oh we could have fun with

2094
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:02,880
that now i i know that people are will

2095
01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:04,960
always point to well if you know

2096
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:06,239
freemasonry is double worshipping et

2097
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:08,080
cetera et cetera you know in the

2098
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:10,719
leotaxul said so yeah and

2099
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,159
this this was 1890s like 1890s leotaxel

2100
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,239
uh like you have to ask them if it's

2101
01:11:20,229 --> 01:11:18,719
working then well

2102
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:20,239
well to a certain extent yes because

2103
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:21,440
you're going to have a certain amount of

2104
01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,239
society and i always go with with

2105
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,640
um and this is this is more not a

2106
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,560
objectivism or yeah objectivism and i

2107
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,719
know that it's more of an uh aaron rand

2108
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:32,400
uh concept and i know you may not

2109
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,600
necessarily

2110
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:36,239
like aaron rand but if you go with

2111
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,920
um

2112
01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,040
terry goodkind it uses somewhat of the

2113
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,719
same principles but more towards

2114
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,800
critical thinking uh through his entire

2115
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,280
series and then uses um uh uses a

2116
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,040
fantasy setting as as a setting to be

2117
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:50,880
able to tell a story to inculcate this

2118
01:11:54,709 --> 01:11:53,120
this these concepts

2119
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,719
um and it's a fantastic read you can't

2120
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:57,040
put the first uh seven down and then you

2121
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:58,560
know they start to weed a little bit off

2122
01:12:01,750 --> 01:12:00,320
and then he brought in a bunch of

2123
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:01,760
zombies and it's like okay dude you're

2124
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:03,199
just you're just you know trying to get

2125
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,480
off the whole walking dead thing it's

2126
01:12:07,910 --> 01:12:05,920
just you're you're book sucking i guess

2127
01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:07,920
the term jumping the shark comes to mind

2128
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:09,760
at that point yeah when zombies come out

2129
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:12,239
you're you're done um once the zombies

2130
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,080
show you just bring down the curtain and

2131
01:12:18,390 --> 01:12:16,560
he has well exactly and he's got a few

2132
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,400
of these the first couple of books are

2133
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:20,560
just phenomenal and they all all each

2134
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,320
book teaches a wizard's rule

2135
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:24,400
quote-unquote or principle that you can

2136
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:26,800
use to essentially keep yourself apart

2137
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:27,600
from

2138
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:30,159
um certain situations to look at it more

2139
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:31,199
critically

2140
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:33,360
and the the first one is okay well

2141
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:35,679
people are people are [\h__\h] stupid um

2142
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:36,880
they're going to

2143
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:39,600
i know like in individuals are like

2144
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,520
individuals can be intelligent people as

2145
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:43,199
a whole and again sorry and again not

2146
01:12:47,189 --> 01:12:44,719
not the denizens you guys are very

2147
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:47,199
intelligent because you're here um

2148
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,880
but people enjoy here as individuals

2149
01:12:51,510 --> 01:12:50,320
yeah don't like people people in general

2150
01:12:53,270 --> 01:12:51,520
are dumb as [\h__\h]

2151
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,280
um

2152
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:54,800
and because of like

2153
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:56,800
they will believe any lie

2154
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,719
either because they want it to be true

2155
01:13:01,669 --> 01:13:00,719
or they're afraid that or afraid that it

2156
01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,679
is true

2157
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:03,440
uh if you hate freemasons and you're

2158
01:13:07,110 --> 01:13:05,120
like oh i hear freemasons are our satan

2159
01:13:08,870 --> 01:13:07,120
worshipers man those [\h__\h] freemasons

2160
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,880
satan worshipers

2161
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:09,840
or

2162
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:13,679
you know you're you're really religious

2163
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,280
and you're like oh my god these my

2164
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,440
next-door neighbors are free mason

2165
01:13:22,870 --> 01:13:19,679
are are they like they're they're going

2166
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,880
to steal my my child and and and and you

2167
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:23,760
know

2168
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,640
about me and then somehow seduce me into

2169
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:30,719
some type of of sexual orgy and i'll

2170
01:13:34,870 --> 01:13:33,040
have to bring maple syrup

2171
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:34,880
which i desperately want to do but won't

2172
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:37,760
do but myself exactly exactly yeah so

2173
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:39,280
because of that you're gonna you know

2174
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:41,120
and because of that fact

2175
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,760
that people do not that think critically

2176
01:13:47,350 --> 01:13:45,360
they don't they will believe anything

2177
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:47,360
they hear because they're dumb as [\h__\h]

2178
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,600
um then you they can be led to believe

2179
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:52,000
anything um and

2180
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:53,520
you know we

2181
01:13:55,750 --> 01:13:54,560
we're slowly starting to get into

2182
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,760
politics because i just stopped giving

2183
01:13:58,390 --> 01:13:57,120
like we didn't usually talk politics i

2184
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,400
talk politics now just because i just

2185
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,719
don't like things are so things are so

2186
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:03,360
[\h__\h] up down where you are i'm

2187
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:05,360
ah

2188
01:14:09,430 --> 01:14:06,880
it's

2189
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:09,440
what's the best way to put it uh i

2190
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:11,040
your okay your current president your

2191
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,239
current president like our prime

2192
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,719
minister is i don't know if he's if he's

2193
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:16,000
a well-meaning guy or not i think

2194
01:14:19,830 --> 01:14:18,320
honestly he's somebody who grew up very

2195
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:19,840
privileged and he doesn't understand

2196
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:21,199
what your average

2197
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,840
person making 30 or 40 000 a year as a

2198
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:25,760
single parent to raise their kid has to

2199
01:14:29,350 --> 01:14:27,760
deal with in terms of the costs involved

2200
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:29,360
he's ignorant but i don't think he means

2201
01:14:32,390 --> 01:14:30,400
spirit he just thinks he's doing the

2202
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:32,400
right thing which is can be just as

2203
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:34,880
dangerous because you know the the rope

2204
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:37,040
the the the path to hell is paid with

2205
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,640
good intentions

2206
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:40,800
if you have a multi-billionaire who has

2207
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,560
made his entire uh life's fortune off of

2208
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:45,600
uh

2209
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:48,159
complete opulence narcissistic

2210
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,560
tendencies but literally destroying your

2211
01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:53,440
your enemies out of spite um

2212
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,560
you know

2213
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,880
denigrating and and looking down on

2214
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:58,000
people who are smarter than him and

2215
01:15:01,030 --> 01:14:59,679
surrounding yourself as sycophants if

2216
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:01,040
you expect him to be able to change the

2217
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,000
world around you i'm sorry you're going

2218
01:15:08,630 --> 01:15:06,480
i'm sorry you're you're well

2219
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:08,640
if you believe it no like it's no you

2220
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:12,080
you the the thing you have to understand

2221
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:14,239
uh with with the the ascension that the

2222
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,640
ascension of trump um actually predicted

2223
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,640
his victory in january of 2016. oh [\h__\h]

2224
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,000
i called it the first uh that like the

2225
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,679
first uh candidate's debate i'm just

2226
01:15:24,149 --> 01:15:23,280
like he's going to win and my friend

2227
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:24,159
turns to

2228
01:15:27,669 --> 01:15:25,679
he's like are you sure

2229
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:27,679
well let's put it this way you elect the

2230
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:29,360
government you deserve for better for

2231
01:15:32,630 --> 01:15:30,239
worse

2232
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:32,640
yeah but the thing is the thing that led

2233
01:15:37,270 --> 01:15:35,120
me to call back in january 2016 so most

2234
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,280
of the year before the election

2235
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,360
is that every other candidate was

2236
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,600
basically pushing that we are going to

2237
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:43,520
we're going to continue doing exactly

2238
01:15:48,870 --> 01:15:46,159
what we've been doing since um in the

2239
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:48,880
the w obama consensus the the

2240
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,719
the identical policies that have been

2241
01:15:55,110 --> 01:15:52,560
stuck in place under george w bush and

2242
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:55,120
barack obama which have by the way run

2243
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:56,640
maybe half of the american people into

2244
01:15:59,110 --> 01:15:58,239
the ground

2245
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:59,120
um

2246
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:00,960
the policies that have i mean when i

2247
01:16:04,870 --> 01:16:03,199
when i was young when i was young which

2248
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,880
was a few years ago now

2249
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,280
one a family of four with one working

2250
01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:09,520
class income could afford a house a car

2251
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:11,199
three square meals a day all that kind

2252
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,800
of stuff

2253
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:14,239
a family of four trying to live on one

2254
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,480
working class income in america today is

2255
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:18,080
living on the street

2256
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:19,920
nobody's willing to talk about the fact

2257
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:21,920
that that did not happen by accident it

2258
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:24,640
happened by specific policies embraced

2259
01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:26,880
by both parties

2260
01:16:30,950 --> 01:16:29,360
and it has literally literally it has

2261
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:30,960
driven

2262
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:34,000
half the country into destitution and no

2263
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:36,560
politician was willing to say maybe we

2264
01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:39,040
should change those policies trump

2265
01:16:42,550 --> 01:16:41,040
said we need to re we need to revisit

2266
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,560
those policies we need to revisit the

2267
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:44,320
idea of a completely open border that'll

2268
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:46,719
that basically we're bringing in

2269
01:16:51,990 --> 01:16:49,679
millions of illegal immigrants who thus

2270
01:16:53,669 --> 01:16:52,000
have no civil rights and no employment

2271
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,679
rights to drive wages down

2272
01:16:57,830 --> 01:16:55,840
and offshoring all of our jobs

2273
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,840
now the fact that he was lying

2274
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,440
is another matter but the fact is he was

2275
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:01,360
willing to talk about it that's why he

2276
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:02,560
won

2277
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:03,760
now that he's one he doesn't actually

2278
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:06,080
have to play the line anymore it's you

2279
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:07,120
you can well

2280
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:10,159
you like what your person's act like

2281
01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:12,000
if you want to if you want to know a man

2282
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,800
you

2283
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:14,560
watch his actions on his words because

2284
01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:16,800
actions are going to betray a lie and

2285
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:18,960
but people were but people were so

2286
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,040
people are so desperate

2287
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:23,199
that they and and given who we was

2288
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:25,920
running against

2289
01:17:29,350 --> 01:17:28,080
well again um i'm no fan of hillary

2290
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:29,360
hillary is

2291
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:31,040
what was the

2292
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:32,800
and especially the way that she won the

2293
01:17:36,070 --> 01:17:35,199
the uh nomination like i'm sorry that

2294
01:17:37,830 --> 01:17:36,080
this

2295
01:17:39,990 --> 01:17:37,840
excuse me stole the nomination what's

2296
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,000
the nomination again i'm not a so like

2297
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:41,760
i'm my political spectrum's all over the

2298
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,360
map whether you're talking liberal like

2299
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:45,520
i believe in gun like gun rights and

2300
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,560
hell

2301
01:17:50,470 --> 01:17:48,560
open carry permits wonderful thing

2302
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,480
because you actually decrease crime in

2303
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:52,000
the areas that have open gun uh carry

2304
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,360
permits would you [\h__\h] with somebody if

2305
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,120
you know they got a gun no

2306
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:57,280
um no no like if they're if they're

2307
01:18:01,189 --> 01:17:58,719
packing heat right out there on their on

2308
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,199
their hip yeah exactly

2309
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,159
and

2310
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:04,719
or again for instance um like socialized

2311
01:18:07,510 --> 01:18:06,239
healthcare i'm canadian i grew up with

2312
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,520
socialized healthcare it's not the

2313
01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:09,760
greatest but i've never

2314
01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:12,080
gone broke having to pay my health bills

2315
01:18:17,750 --> 01:18:14,560
my medical bills you know fortunately i

2316
01:18:19,510 --> 01:18:17,760
i will i will grant you um whatever else

2317
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:19,520
one can say the united states has the

2318
01:18:23,430 --> 01:18:20,880
worst health care in the industrial

2319
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:23,440
world whatever we are doing do not do it

2320
01:18:25,910 --> 01:18:24,320
okay

2321
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,920
anything other than what we have in the

2322
01:18:29,590 --> 01:18:27,920
united states is an improvement

2323
01:18:31,350 --> 01:18:29,600
so if social you know socialized

2324
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:31,360
healthcare is the improvement you prefer

2325
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:33,760
i have no argument with that what we do

2326
01:18:39,350 --> 01:18:35,920
doesn't work it's a complete total

2327
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,360
stinking wreaking smoldering disaster

2328
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:41,440
we spend more money and get worse health

2329
01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:42,960
care than any other nation in the

2330
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:44,560
industrial world

2331
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,080
so you know if you want to talk about

2332
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:48,640
social i have no problem whatever

2333
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:51,520
anything else

2334
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:53,120
although actually i need to i need to

2335
01:18:57,030 --> 01:18:55,120
qualify that because one of the things

2336
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:57,040
that we saw with with the obamacare

2337
01:18:59,910 --> 01:18:58,560
fiasco is that it's possible to take the

2338
01:19:01,910 --> 01:18:59,920
worst health care system in the world

2339
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:01,920
and actually make it worse

2340
01:19:04,950 --> 01:19:03,199
well

2341
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:04,960
okay he he tried to fix a broken system

2342
01:19:10,709 --> 01:19:06,320
with a

2343
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:10,719
republican um house that was

2344
01:19:12,790 --> 01:19:11,840
essentially

2345
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:12,800
he

2346
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:20,800
passed it that it had that

2347
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:22,480
um and because people were pointing out

2348
01:19:26,790 --> 01:19:25,600
the obvious disasters no it was it was a

2349
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,800
what what you what you have to

2350
01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:28,719
understand about obamacare is that it's

2351
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:30,719
a full employment bill for the medical

2352
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:32,400
industry it's corporate welfare yeah

2353
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:35,280
what is basically people are because

2354
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,800
what you're passing is a law that says

2355
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:38,159
okay you can't afford health insurance

2356
01:19:41,669 --> 01:19:40,159
that's fine you have to buy it anyway

2357
01:19:43,030 --> 01:19:41,679
under force of law

2358
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:43,040
we have to do the same thing with with

2359
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,880
car insurance here in in canada in

2360
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:46,320
ontario i can't do it

2361
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,960
yeah like it's yes but how does it is

2362
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:50,239
that going to cost you more than your

2363
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:52,239
house payment

2364
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:54,159
because that's what when that's what

2365
01:19:57,430 --> 01:19:55,760
that's what it costs

2366
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:57,440
is here i've seen people with with i've

2367
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:58,640
seen people with

2368
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,000
car insurance that's close to a thousand

2369
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:01,600
dollars a month of course obviously

2370
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,320
they've had multiple lies

2371
01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:06,159
multiple dui is like nobody's willing to

2372
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:08,560
insure them um but okay but if you're

2373
01:20:13,430 --> 01:20:11,440
talking about like when he passed it yes

2374
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,440
but in terms like he had difficulty with

2375
01:20:16,950 --> 01:20:15,120
anything else or getting the

2376
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:16,960
uh like getting the support that he

2377
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:19,040
needed even further down the line even

2378
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:21,280
when he had a majority in both houses he

2379
01:20:26,790 --> 01:20:24,000
was the only president that was a lame

2380
01:20:28,550 --> 01:20:26,800
like close to a lame duck president with

2381
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:28,560
you know with with controlling both

2382
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:29,440
houses

2383
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,880
it's ridiculous

2384
01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:32,480
you know it's it's really simple the

2385
01:20:36,310 --> 01:20:34,400
thing is barack obama is a brilliant is

2386
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:36,320
an incredibly good campaigner

2387
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:38,880
and an incompetent executive

2388
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,800
he is one of the he is one of the real

2389
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:42,719
political geniuses of our time in terms

2390
01:20:48,630 --> 01:20:45,440
of getting elected and the especially i

2391
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:48,640
mean his his 2008 campaign hope change

2392
01:20:54,470 --> 01:20:51,120
yes we can totally empty

2393
01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:54,480
totally cynical incredibly brilliant

2394
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:56,320
the man could win any election going but

2395
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:58,320
he has no idea how to run a country

2396
01:21:04,070 --> 01:21:01,440
and so he basically just went kind of uh

2397
01:21:05,110 --> 01:21:04,080
dead in the water once he was in office

2398
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,120
but

2399
01:21:09,270 --> 01:21:07,280
you know um

2400
01:21:11,189 --> 01:21:09,280
i don't know i thought the comment that

2401
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:11,199
i made back at the time

2402
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:13,360
um was that you know we were facing in

2403
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:14,880
america a choice between which of the

2404
01:21:18,630 --> 01:21:17,120
two most detested people in american

2405
01:21:20,070 --> 01:21:18,640
public life

2406
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,080
was going to occupy the white house for

2407
01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:22,080
the next four years

2408
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,679
and

2409
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:25,760
they're both detested for very good

2410
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:28,480
reasons

2411
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:30,400
there were i mean and this is this is

2412
01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:32,239
perhaps the great shame of our political

2413
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,040
system because there were easily tens of

2414
01:21:38,229 --> 01:21:36,800
thousands of people

2415
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:38,239
who were really qualified to be

2416
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:39,440
president none of them were on the

2417
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:45,350
and

2418
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:47,280
the both parties as far as their

2419
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:48,880
nomination but they're their nomination

2420
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:49,920
process

2421
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,960
uh

2422
01:21:54,470 --> 01:21:52,320
essentially it's they try and make it

2423
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,480
look as open as they possibly want to

2424
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:57,040
and but it's not yeah like for free and

2425
01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:58,080
for anybody out here who's listening to

2426
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,719
this if you knew me you would you would

2427
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:02,159
know that i'm

2428
01:22:04,950 --> 01:22:03,679
you know you'll say like oh i'm going to

2429
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:04,960
bash trump yeah cause he's a [\h__\h]

2430
01:22:08,790 --> 01:22:07,360
idiot he's a [\h__\h] idiot crook

2431
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:08,800
hillary was

2432
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:11,760
a complete fraud um i didn't look any

2433
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:12,960
any really into the third parties i

2434
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,840
think there was one libertarian

2435
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:15,360
candidate who's on joe rogan experience

2436
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:17,199
who seemed fairly intelligent

2437
01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:19,120
uh who got close to at least almost

2438
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:20,320
becoming what we would call here in

2439
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:22,080
canada official party status but you

2440
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:24,480
know the the media doesn't want to get

2441
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:26,000
involved in that because

2442
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:27,440
the party is essentially like even if

2443
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,719
they're going to

2444
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:30,239
uh talk trash

2445
01:22:34,149 --> 01:22:31,920
and try and fight as much in front of

2446
01:22:36,550 --> 01:22:34,159
the camera it's all a [\h__\h] show it's

2447
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:36,560
all a [\h__\h] show for you people behind

2448
01:22:39,189 --> 01:22:37,760
the scenes they're cutting deals they're

2449
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:39,199
being buddy buddy because you know what

2450
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:40,480
you're the ones who are [\h__\h] crawling

2451
01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:43,040
in the in the muck and the dirt and the

2452
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:44,239
[\h__\h] and having to deal with their

2453
01:22:47,189 --> 01:22:45,199
decisions and they're the ones

2454
01:22:49,669 --> 01:22:47,199
collecting that that you know that

2455
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,679
lobbyist money so yeah they're going to

2456
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:51,440
make a good show of it so you guys stay

2457
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:52,960
divided

2458
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,360
and and fight amongst yourselves because

2459
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:57,280
because if you were to realize

2460
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,320
how how [\h__\h] up things are in dc and

2461
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,239
how badly you guys have been [\h__\h] from

2462
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:04,239
both parties like the democrats have no

2463
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:05,679
balls and the republicans are [\h__\h]

2464
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,480
evil

2465
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:08,159
that's that's basically it it's party

2466
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:09,600
over country i'm sorry you're an

2467
01:23:13,189 --> 01:23:11,440
american no no that support your [\h__\h]

2468
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:13,199
country the way that i the way that i've

2469
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:15,760
described it is that on any point of

2470
01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:17,920
view there's a there is a democratic and

2471
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:18,960
a republican or a liberal or

2472
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:20,960
conservative viewpoint and the liberal

2473
01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:22,639
viewpoint is well-meaning and

2474
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,920
ineffectual

2475
01:23:27,110 --> 01:23:25,440
and the conservative viewpoint is

2476
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,120
practicable and evil

2477
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,520
and prac like well practical towards

2478
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,440
it's it's

2479
01:23:34,790 --> 01:23:33,120
like toward its actual goal it can

2480
01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:34,800
actually be put into place it will

2481
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,040
actually it won't necessarily fulfill

2482
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:39,280
its promises but it will you know it can

2483
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,560
be done

2484
01:23:44,950 --> 01:23:42,239
whereas typically

2485
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:44,960
the democrats things if it can be made

2486
01:23:49,990 --> 01:23:47,600
to function at all it doesn't function

2487
01:23:51,189 --> 01:23:50,000
for long as as again obamacare is

2488
01:23:53,110 --> 01:23:51,199
demonstrating

2489
01:23:58,790 --> 01:23:53,120
but

2490
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:58,800
now again i'm i'm i'm more i i'm

2491
01:24:01,830 --> 01:24:00,000
i'm very cynical when it comes to

2492
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:01,840
politics and politicians give you a good

2493
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:04,719
statement give me like give me a

2494
01:24:08,310 --> 01:24:06,719
like give me somebody who actually does

2495
01:24:09,910 --> 01:24:08,320
what they say they're going to do and

2496
01:24:11,590 --> 01:24:09,920
actually does it for their constituents

2497
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:11,600
and cares about the country and cares

2498
01:24:15,590 --> 01:24:13,840
about the goddamn constitution which is

2499
01:24:18,790 --> 01:24:15,600
a believe it or not was written by

2500
01:24:20,629 --> 01:24:18,800
freemasons yes are of course it was so

2501
01:24:22,470 --> 01:24:20,639
the idea of equality that that's masonic

2502
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:22,480
ideal um

2503
01:24:24,390 --> 01:24:23,280
but

2504
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:24,400
when it comes to like politics in

2505
01:24:28,830 --> 01:24:26,800
general it it is it's it's

2506
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,840
something of division and it just angers

2507
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:31,360
me no in a

2508
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:33,520
it anchors me in a

2509
01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:34,960
well i don't want to have to like you

2510
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,040
know like screw you all um i'm gonna you

2511
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:39,040
know like if i vote in canadian

2512
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:40,080
elections we can do what's called

2513
01:24:44,070 --> 01:24:41,440
refusing your ballot which is

2514
01:24:45,350 --> 01:24:44,080
essentially it gets counted um that you

2515
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:45,360
know you spoil your ballot it doesn't

2516
01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:46,560
get counted it's like well it didn't

2517
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:48,159
exist but you could refuse you can

2518
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:49,840
refuse the ballot and it's counted as a

2519
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:53,280
refused ballot exactly and so yeah

2520
01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:55,199
yeah like you can at least in canada you

2521
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:56,880
can go like i can get my ballot and then

2522
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:58,080
i will hand it back and say i'm refusing

2523
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:59,040
my ballot

2524
01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:00,239
the first time it happened i got looked

2525
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:01,440
at strange

2526
01:25:04,870 --> 01:25:02,960
and i think i may have talked about this

2527
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:04,880
on the phone on the show before and

2528
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:05,840
they're like well i'm a few what do you

2529
01:25:08,629 --> 01:25:07,280
mean you're refusing your ballot i have

2530
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,639
a right to be able to refuse my ballot

2531
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:10,000
and you have to count it as refused and

2532
01:25:12,629 --> 01:25:11,440
she's like why would you want to do that

2533
01:25:14,229 --> 01:25:12,639
because

2534
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:14,239
this is provincial this is provincially

2535
01:25:17,350 --> 01:25:15,760
and i've got family who works for the

2536
01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:17,360
like high up in the liberals so again

2537
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:20,320
sorry buddy um i i thought all the

2538
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:22,239
candid like our our ndp which is our

2539
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:25,520
kind of more our socialist candidate um

2540
01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,880
it just was was a

2541
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:30,560
just seemed like an idiot

2542
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:33,600
um our pc candidate seemed like a neocon

2543
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:35,280
like he essentially he went down to the

2544
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:36,800
states took all the worst from the tea

2545
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,760
party

2546
01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:39,520
brought it up here to canada

2547
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:40,960
and essentially said this is what we're

2548
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:41,840
going to do

2549
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:43,199
and you know it was like laying off a

2550
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:44,960
hundred thousand public servants

2551
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:46,080
and

2552
01:25:48,149 --> 01:25:47,199
we're like well the liberals aren't

2553
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:48,159
going to do that they're not saying

2554
01:25:52,470 --> 01:25:49,920
they're going to do that like well

2555
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,480
[\h__\h] the [\h__\h] that's evil so people

2556
01:25:55,750 --> 01:25:54,400
voted strategically to get the liberals

2557
01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,760
back in they gave him another majority

2558
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,520
government unfortunately the liberals

2559
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:00,080
then laid off close to 100 000 people i

2560
01:26:04,390 --> 01:26:02,560
believe so they did the exact same thing

2561
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:04,400
that the conservatives

2562
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:05,920
what you're saying what you're saying is

2563
01:26:08,790 --> 01:26:07,520
the liberals and the pcs are doing the

2564
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:08,800
same thing as the democrats and the

2565
01:26:12,550 --> 01:26:10,719
republicans because yeah when a democrat

2566
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:12,560
gets into office in the united states

2567
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,159
you know they'll promise the world and

2568
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:15,679
then they'll look to the last successful

2569
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,520
republican administration say okay what

2570
01:26:23,350 --> 01:26:19,920
did they do copy it pretty much barack

2571
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,360
obama ran basically did all of george w

2572
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,600
bush's campaign all of his policies he

2573
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:27,600
maintained all of it even though he came

2574
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:28,960
into power claiming he was going to get

2575
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,800
rid of it

2576
01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:32,800
it's humiliating

2577
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:33,520
so

2578
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:35,760
yeah and and

2579
01:26:42,070 --> 01:26:40,310
so for like for me i'm a cynic so like

2580
01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:42,080
if i'm talking politics it's just based

2581
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:43,440
around it's like i'm looking at the

2582
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:45,520
situation like yeah it's [\h__\h] up

2583
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:46,320
like

2584
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:47,760
the thing that i the thing that i would

2585
01:26:52,709 --> 01:26:50,639
point out here is yeah um the amer us

2586
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,719
constitution was written by freemasons

2587
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,560
um the declaration of attendance i mean

2588
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:56,480
the whole american revolution you want

2589
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:57,840
to talk about a revolution carried out

2590
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,120
by secret societies yeah um and the

2591
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,440
country ran fairly well when freemasons

2592
01:27:07,430 --> 01:27:05,040
were running care to guess who the last

2593
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:07,440
freemason in the white house was uh

2594
01:27:12,149 --> 01:27:08,800
gerald ford

2595
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:12,159
that you have to go back to harry truman

2596
01:27:15,750 --> 01:27:14,000
hmm

2597
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:15,760
didn't tournament oh truman he won he

2598
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:16,880
won the war

2599
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,719
didn't if i'm not mistaken harry truman

2600
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:20,000
truman

2601
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,880
because true

2602
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,560
yeah truman was after

2603
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:24,880
uh america was fdr's vice president and

2604
01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:26,800
then and then won one re-election

2605
01:27:30,709 --> 01:27:29,679
himself okay and so yeah um but yeah he

2606
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,719
was actually he was actually grand

2607
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:33,040
master of um

2608
01:27:39,590 --> 01:27:38,070
now i know for canada

2609
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:39,600
no i know i know for candidates a little

2610
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:41,440
and i we have a one listener i'm going

2611
01:27:44,229 --> 01:27:42,480
to ask you this while i'm looking this

2612
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,239
up what is your

2613
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:46,800
opinion of dan brown

2614
01:27:51,590 --> 01:27:49,520
um dan brown of um the da vinci code

2615
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,600
fame and so on correct

2616
01:27:57,750 --> 01:27:53,360
okay um

2617
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,950
so so lee you're not i'm not

2618
01:28:05,350 --> 01:28:04,550
he's an entertaining author we we have a

2619
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:05,360
support

2620
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:07,360
novelist

2621
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:08,960
have you read much of his books and and

2622
01:28:12,390 --> 01:28:10,560
what do you think as far as his accuracy

2623
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:12,400
is concerned

2624
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:14,320
he's a novelist he's making this well

2625
01:28:17,990 --> 01:28:16,320
actually in the case of the davinci code

2626
01:28:20,550 --> 01:28:18,000
he was not making stuff up he was

2627
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:20,560
although i know that they he got let off

2628
01:28:24,709 --> 01:28:22,239
the hook from this he basically borrowed

2629
01:28:26,709 --> 01:28:24,719
all the material from um wassering's

2630
01:28:27,830 --> 01:28:26,719
books holy blood holy grail

2631
01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:27,840
which

2632
01:28:34,709 --> 01:28:31,920
holy blood holy cow

2633
01:28:36,950 --> 01:28:34,719
and which is a really good example of

2634
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:36,960
how not to do research into secret

2635
01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:38,159
societies

2636
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,840
um the the um the priory of zion which

2637
01:28:45,030 --> 01:28:43,600
supposedly dates back to the crusades

2638
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:45,040
blah blah blah

2639
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:46,239
if they'd actually done the basic

2640
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:47,360
research they would have found that it

2641
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:50,480
was founded in 1952 by pierre plantard

2642
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:52,320
quote di sant claire he added that to

2643
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:53,280
his name

2644
01:28:58,870 --> 01:28:56,400
and that it was never more than a tiny

2645
01:29:01,350 --> 01:28:58,880
also you know also ran player in the

2646
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:01,360
french esoteric scene

2647
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:03,920
they basically just asked planetard well

2648
01:29:08,390 --> 01:29:06,400
what tell us about the priory of zion

2649
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:08,400
and flontardo

2650
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,960
you may have met the kind of elderly

2651
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:12,800
occultist who is also an absolute

2652
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:14,800
first-rate con man

2653
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:16,159
i've had the great good fortune of

2654
01:29:20,149 --> 01:29:17,920
knowing some of them myself it's it's a

2655
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:20,159
real experience but yeah you want you so

2656
01:29:23,910 --> 01:29:21,840
they wound plentard off and he just told

2657
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:23,920
them all kinds of stuff and they told

2658
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:25,760
they wrote it down literally

2659
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:28,639
they said oh wow except

2660
01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:29,520
the

2661
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:34,800
wrote holy blood holy grail

2662
01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,960
one of them had this obsession about the

2663
01:29:40,229 --> 01:29:38,639
about christ having descendants and they

2664
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:40,239
kind of dragged that in and plantar was

2665
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:41,760
horrified he's actually he was actually

2666
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,080
devout catholic and so there's this

2667
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:46,800
entire fandango that they generated

2668
01:29:50,709 --> 01:29:49,120
around it and it really takes very

2669
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:50,719
little research to find this out but of

2670
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:52,480
course people don't do that research

2671
01:29:58,550 --> 01:29:56,080
because it's so cool

2672
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:58,560
so you end up with the whole holy blood

2673
01:30:01,410 --> 01:30:01,120
holy grail priory of zion

2674
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:01,420
um

2675
01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:03,199
[Music]

2676
01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:04,480
business

2677
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,520
being

2678
01:30:09,669 --> 01:30:07,120
mass-produced and marketed all over the

2679
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:09,679
place and dan brown who is a very

2680
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:11,520
entertaining novelist picks up the thing

2681
01:30:17,189 --> 01:30:13,920
goes oh cool this would make a hell of a

2682
01:30:19,910 --> 01:30:17,199
story and it did

2683
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:19,920
but just as it's not really a good idea

2684
01:30:25,750 --> 01:30:22,400
to take say jrr tolkien's lord of the

2685
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:25,760
rings as a guide to um the pre-history

2686
01:30:29,750 --> 01:30:27,360
of europe

2687
01:30:31,189 --> 01:30:29,760
i don't know that i would take

2688
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,199
you know uh

2689
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:33,840
or you know conan the barbarian as as a

2690
01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:35,280
guide to what life was like during the

2691
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,199
ice ages i don't know that i'd take the

2692
01:30:41,270 --> 01:30:39,360
da vinci code any more seriously than

2693
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:41,280
that and you know game of thrones can't

2694
01:30:44,790 --> 01:30:43,280
be used as a complete analog to war the

2695
01:30:47,030 --> 01:30:44,800
roses although it's close

2696
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:47,040
now it's well that's that's because

2697
01:30:51,750 --> 01:30:49,440
railroad martin is is excuse me george

2698
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:51,760
rr martin one of the there's a running

2699
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:52,960
joke in science fiction circles

2700
01:30:55,910 --> 01:30:54,960
referring to him as railroad martin

2701
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:55,920
um

2702
01:31:00,709 --> 01:30:58,400
george martin is going to be borrowing a

2703
01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:00,719
lot of stuff from history if you're a

2704
01:31:05,270 --> 01:31:02,480
competent fantasy writer you rip off

2705
01:31:07,990 --> 01:31:05,280
history for everything you can get

2706
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:08,000
because you want to know okay how did

2707
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:09,920
nasty political struggles work out in a

2708
01:31:13,750 --> 01:31:11,199
medieval setting well the wars of the

2709
01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:13,760
roses are right there check it out

2710
01:31:16,390 --> 01:31:15,040
um

2711
01:31:18,950 --> 01:31:16,400
j.r tolkien again

2712
01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:18,960
the ba the battle on the on the pla on

2713
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:20,560
the pelinor fields where the you know

2714
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:23,360
the forces of rohan and gondor and the

2715
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:25,040
orcs and everyone are fighting that was

2716
01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:27,040
largely based on the big battle between

2717
01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:28,639
the huns the visigoths and the romans

2718
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:31,120
the battle of the catalonian plane

2719
01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:32,719
which was described in a number of old

2720
01:31:35,750 --> 01:31:34,320
chronicles that tolkien of course knew

2721
01:31:37,270 --> 01:31:35,760
extremely well

2722
01:31:40,070 --> 01:31:37,280
philologists that he was and so he

2723
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:40,080
borrowed most of the details from that

2724
01:31:43,030 --> 01:31:41,280
the next is one of the tricks of the

2725
01:31:44,709 --> 01:31:43,040
trade now the next question is

2726
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:44,719
do you do voice acting for books because

2727
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:53,510
i don't i i had not considered that um

2728
01:31:58,070 --> 01:31:56,070
no and actually that's that's a fun

2729
01:32:01,110 --> 01:31:58,080
thought because i have i

2730
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:01,120
i mentioned earlier earlier in the show

2731
01:32:04,629 --> 01:32:03,199
the um

2732
01:32:06,070 --> 01:32:04,639
that i was doing a fiction project

2733
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:06,080
involving stuff on tall ships i'm

2734
01:32:09,430 --> 01:32:07,199
actually

2735
01:32:11,830 --> 01:32:09,440
the second book in a seven volume

2736
01:32:13,910 --> 01:32:11,840
fantasy series of mine has just come out

2737
01:32:15,990 --> 01:32:13,920
and this is all for the the research on

2738
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:16,000
sailing ships all for book six but i

2739
01:32:20,070 --> 01:32:18,480
think it'd make a really good um

2740
01:32:22,390 --> 01:32:20,080
dramatic presentation i think would be

2741
01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:22,400
very fun to play a role in that but i'm

2742
01:32:25,430 --> 01:32:23,520
i'm not really sure how that would

2743
01:32:26,310 --> 01:32:25,440
happen

2744
01:32:27,750 --> 01:32:26,320
you know

2745
01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:27,760
speaking of books and i know we went off

2746
01:32:31,510 --> 01:32:29,360
on went off in a little bit of a tangent

2747
01:32:33,110 --> 01:32:31,520
here and yeah a little bit of attention

2748
01:32:34,709 --> 01:32:33,120
yes we've been having

2749
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:34,719
well i'm having fun with a lot of

2750
01:32:37,669 --> 01:32:36,560
tangents well true and it's like again

2751
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:37,679
the reason we don't normally talk

2752
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:38,880
politics in the show i'm just like well

2753
01:32:41,830 --> 01:32:40,400
screw it because at some point you just

2754
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,840
have to hit like no it's at some point

2755
01:32:44,790 --> 01:32:43,199
you have to take a stand and like as i

2756
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:44,800
said like it i'm looking at what's going

2757
01:32:48,070 --> 01:32:46,560
down south i'm like ah

2758
01:32:49,270 --> 01:32:48,080
okay

2759
01:32:50,470 --> 01:32:49,280
i may lose listeners and i've actually

2760
01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:50,480
been i actually been watching our

2761
01:32:53,990 --> 01:32:51,840
listener you know i'm watching the

2762
01:32:55,350 --> 01:32:54,000
little needle go down from i can see the

2763
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:55,360
point where just started to drop it's

2764
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:57,920
like oh it's like okay well we talked

2765
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:59,280
about politics and people started

2766
01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:01,120
bailing oh my god and it's it's like

2767
01:33:04,709 --> 01:33:03,280
okay i can understand but i i usually go

2768
01:33:06,149 --> 01:33:04,719
look at it like okay if i'm going on a

2769
01:33:07,669 --> 01:33:06,159
rant some people are getting getting a

2770
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:07,679
good goddamn show

2771
01:33:10,950 --> 01:33:09,280
and at least i'm keeping my pants on and

2772
01:33:13,189 --> 01:33:10,960
i'm not talking about some you know her

2773
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:13,199
i'm not talking about her frogs

2774
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:15,760
or you know weight waving um waving

2775
01:33:18,550 --> 01:33:16,480
tactics

2776
01:33:20,070 --> 01:33:18,560
you're talking about hermaphrodite frogs

2777
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:20,080
i should hope you're keeping your pants

2778
01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:20,880
on

2779
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:22,880
well you know if we are canadian we do

2780
01:33:26,790 --> 01:33:25,199
things different up here um okay okay

2781
01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:26,800
i'm sorry i should i i should not i

2782
01:33:29,990 --> 01:33:28,639
should not engage in you know these

2783
01:33:33,669 --> 01:33:30,000
cultural assumptions or anything like

2784
01:33:35,830 --> 01:33:33,679
that i gotcha now i know with

2785
01:33:40,229 --> 01:33:35,840
the

2786
01:33:41,910 --> 01:33:40,239
because when it comes to names if

2787
01:33:44,310 --> 01:33:41,920
anybody knows me i cannot remember them

2788
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:44,320
especially which um what's it what's it

2789
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,800
about collaborative alphabet which is

2790
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:48,480
alphabet yeah my new one on the on the

2791
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:51,199
welsh bardic alphabet yes so

2792
01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:53,040
first of all uh the book is coming out

2793
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:54,880
on on for those of for those of you

2794
01:33:58,870 --> 01:33:56,639
still with us your book is the book is

2795
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:58,880
going to be coming out june 8th

2796
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:00,639
um

2797
01:34:04,790 --> 01:34:03,280
i'm i i wish that i would have been able

2798
01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:04,800
to take a look at it to be able to read

2799
01:34:08,950 --> 01:34:06,880
it to get a full

2800
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:08,960
uh a full feeling for it so i would i

2801
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:11,280
would like i'm i'm coming in this fresh

2802
01:34:13,350 --> 01:34:12,080
so

2803
01:34:16,229 --> 01:34:13,360
please please take me through the the

2804
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:16,239
concept and and why you wrote it okay

2805
01:34:21,350 --> 01:34:19,520
okay basically um okay we're talking

2806
01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:21,360
history of druidry here

2807
01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:22,159
um

2808
01:34:27,030 --> 01:34:24,239
back in the late 18th century

2809
01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:27,040
you had um the druid revival had been

2810
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,760
sort of underway for like um oh maybe

2811
01:34:32,950 --> 01:34:31,440
half century at most

2812
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:32,960
various people were getting interested

2813
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:34,480
in the legacies of the ancient druids

2814
01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:36,159
the legacies of ancient celtic peoples

2815
01:34:40,149 --> 01:34:38,639
and so on as an alternative to the

2816
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,159
dogmatic religion and dogmatic

2817
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,320
materialism that were the the two

2818
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:43,920
publicly acceptable

2819
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:46,960
um ideologies at the time and there was

2820
01:34:50,950 --> 01:34:49,440
there was a a mildly crazy welshman um

2821
01:34:52,870 --> 01:34:50,960
his actual name was edward williams but

2822
01:34:55,510 --> 01:34:52,880
he went to buy the bardic name yolo

2823
01:34:57,830 --> 01:34:55,520
morgana in yolo as we can call him

2824
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:57,840
was he was brilliant

2825
01:35:02,870 --> 01:35:00,159
he was probably the best scholar of

2826
01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:02,880
medieval welsh in his life in his time

2827
01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:04,960
he was also one of the most brilliant

2828
01:35:09,590 --> 01:35:07,520
forgers of medieval welsh poetry in his

2829
01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:09,600
time you have to be good he he literally

2830
01:35:12,950 --> 01:35:11,199
some of his fate some mistakes were not

2831
01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:12,960
discovered until the 1950s he was that

2832
01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:16,239
good but this guy

2833
01:35:21,110 --> 01:35:19,040
he was he was a heavy-duty opium addict

2834
01:35:22,709 --> 01:35:21,120
um lawtonum which was opium in chicago

2835
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,719
cheap alcohol was legal in britain at

2836
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:24,480
that time and that's the dream of it

2837
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:26,159
it's the dream yeah

2838
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:27,280
yeah

2839
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:32,800
he he he was you know he had a drug

2840
01:35:37,030 --> 01:35:34,480
habit he had

2841
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:37,040
his head was packed full of welsh

2842
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,960
mythology and wealth po welsh poetry he

2843
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:40,560
became convinced that

2844
01:35:44,149 --> 01:35:42,400
you know the the lessons in welsh poetry

2845
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,159
that he received from some old guys back

2846
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:46,800
in back in glen morgan had initiated him

2847
01:35:51,110 --> 01:35:49,440
into these these original secrets of the

2848
01:35:53,669 --> 01:35:51,120
birds passed down

2849
01:35:54,790 --> 01:35:53,679
from the times of the ancient druids and

2850
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:54,800
there were a lot of people who were

2851
01:35:58,390 --> 01:35:56,239
interested he was kind of you know the

2852
01:36:00,629 --> 01:35:58,400
way gerald gardner sort of manufactured

2853
01:36:02,470 --> 01:36:00,639
wicca in in the 1940s and then

2854
01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:02,480
mass-marketed all over the place um

2855
01:36:07,990 --> 01:36:04,560
thereafter um yolo morgan was kind of

2856
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:08,000
the gerald gardner of the 1790s and he

2857
01:36:12,629 --> 01:36:10,800
founded the various druid groups in

2858
01:36:15,270 --> 01:36:12,639
britain and and in the united are

2859
01:36:17,669 --> 01:36:15,280
actually in in um in britain and wales

2860
01:36:19,270 --> 01:36:17,679
in england wales and then later after

2861
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:19,280
his time something the number one start

2862
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:21,520
in the us as well but

2863
01:36:25,110 --> 01:36:23,440
one of the things that he passed on was

2864
01:36:27,510 --> 01:36:25,120
this alphabet looks kind of like runes

2865
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:27,520
it's all it's designed to be carved or

2866
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:29,840
scratched into wood or stone so it's

2867
01:36:32,870 --> 01:36:30,960
straight lines

2868
01:36:35,669 --> 01:36:32,880
and so on it's called the cauldron

2869
01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:35,679
in the usual format it's 24 letters and

2870
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:38,400
it it was very popular in the druid

2871
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:40,320
scene of the first half of the 19th

2872
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,040
century and then just kind of faded out

2873
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:45,520
and people lost track of it and nobody

2874
01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:47,760
the thing is as with the runes as with

2875
01:36:51,510 --> 01:36:49,280
some of the other old alphabets like the

2876
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:51,520
hebrew alphabet for example

2877
01:36:54,629 --> 01:36:53,520
it's not just an alphabet each letter

2878
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:54,639
you know each of these letters has

2879
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:57,280
symbolism it has meaning you can use it

2880
01:37:00,310 --> 01:36:58,800
for cert for a whole range of purposes

2881
01:37:02,390 --> 01:37:00,320
you can use it as a divinatory oracle

2882
01:37:04,709 --> 01:37:02,400
the way people do rune readings now

2883
01:37:06,950 --> 01:37:04,719
but the key to that what the letters

2884
01:37:09,270 --> 01:37:06,960
meant

2885
01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:09,280
kind of got misplaced

2886
01:37:14,470 --> 01:37:12,080
and so starting when when somebody

2887
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:14,480
noticed the

2888
01:37:19,350 --> 01:37:16,480
when because yolo because it turned out

2889
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:19,360
he was forger because he'd fraudulently

2890
01:37:23,430 --> 01:37:20,880
written a whole bunch of poetry and

2891
01:37:25,750 --> 01:37:23,440
other things that was not in india

2892
01:37:27,910 --> 01:37:25,760
marketed as the works of authentic welsh

2893
01:37:29,990 --> 01:37:27,920
bards in the middle ages nobody wanted

2894
01:37:31,990 --> 01:37:30,000
to talk about him for a long time

2895
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,000
and so was i think in the 1970s that

2896
01:37:35,910 --> 01:37:33,920
people started really poking around his

2897
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,920
legacy and the colburn alphabet and

2898
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,159
these things but nobody could find

2899
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:40,000
what the letters meant what their

2900
01:37:44,070 --> 01:37:41,920
symbolism was anything other than just

2901
01:37:47,510 --> 01:37:44,080
the bare alphabet

2902
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:47,520
so fast forward to 2014

2903
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,719
and i was i was chasing i i'd finished a

2904
01:37:54,310 --> 01:37:52,800
book on druidry i was looking for some

2905
01:37:55,590 --> 01:37:54,320
interesting puzzles i was saying okay

2906
01:37:57,189 --> 01:37:55,600
i'm going to see what i can find about

2907
01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:57,199
the colburn i was poking here and poking

2908
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:58,880
there looking this looking in the out

2909
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,119
and i finally found a tiny little

2910
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,119
reference in a footnote in a book of

2911
01:38:07,510 --> 01:38:05,280
welsh grow a comparative grammar of

2912
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,520
welsh published in

2913
01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:09,600
1920 i think it was there was a

2914
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:11,199
reference to a book that i had not heard

2915
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:13,440
of before in english a in addition and

2916
01:38:27,430 --> 01:38:26,070
that was yolo's number one um

2917
01:38:29,350 --> 01:38:27,440
you know

2918
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:29,360
disciple basically

2919
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:31,679
what's this book so i was able to find

2920
01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:34,320
it it was that was actually available in

2921
01:38:37,669 --> 01:38:36,159
in in google books

2922
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:37,679
i downloaded the thing

2923
01:38:41,910 --> 01:38:40,239
started paging through it and my jaw hit

2924
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:41,920
the keyboard because there was a nice

2925
01:38:46,629 --> 01:38:44,480
little table listing the colburn letters

2926
01:38:48,950 --> 01:38:46,639
and their their meanings their sounds

2927
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:48,960
how they worked symbolically all of it

2928
01:38:55,270 --> 01:38:53,189
the thing that people have been looking

2929
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:55,280
for since the 1970s was tucked away in

2930
01:39:01,270 --> 01:38:58,800
this obscure scholarly work on welsh

2931
01:39:02,709 --> 01:39:01,280
grammar from from the 14th century that

2932
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,719
uh john williams of this will have

2933
01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:04,480
translated and edited and published with

2934
01:39:08,470 --> 01:39:06,719
a tiny little publishing company

2935
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:08,480
and it was just pure blind chance that i

2936
01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:09,920
found this and so of course i went to

2937
01:39:14,070 --> 01:39:12,239
work on it and wrote a start writing the

2938
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:14,080
book and worked out how to use the thing

2939
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:15,679
as an oracle and all this kind of stuff

2940
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:18,159
had a grand old time it is again it's

2941
01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:19,600
like the ruins

2942
01:39:22,470 --> 01:39:21,040
you can use it to cast readings you can

2943
01:39:24,149 --> 01:39:22,480
use it for symbolism you can use it for

2944
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:24,159
meditation it's all kinds of all the

2945
01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:26,000
usual things that a symbolic alphabet

2946
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:27,280
can be used for

2947
01:39:30,950 --> 01:39:30,000
and the book is um

2948
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:30,960
it's

2949
01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:32,320
designed for the complete beginner you

2950
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:34,880
do not have to be an initiated druid to

2951
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:36,639
open its pages and understand

2952
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,320
it's all laid out very straightforwardly

2953
01:39:42,070 --> 01:39:40,400
and i i hope we go someplace so the

2954
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:42,080
colburn is a nice

2955
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:43,679
elegant system

2956
01:39:49,510 --> 01:39:47,040
and as an oracle it gives good answers

2957
01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:49,520
and if you're going how would this work

2958
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,520
in relation to let's say using runes or

2959
01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,960
casting or like

2960
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:54,880
like casting runes or

2961
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:57,679
um tarot cards or what have you is is it

2962
01:40:22,070 --> 01:39:58,560
a

2963
01:40:23,510 --> 01:40:22,080
one i thought i just finished when i

2964
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:23,520
started working in the colbrand the

2965
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:25,679
celtic golden dawn gives a complete

2966
01:40:31,109 --> 01:40:28,719
system of juridical magic which is um

2967
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:31,119
you know which which uses the same

2968
01:40:34,870 --> 01:40:32,320
basically much of the same well

2969
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,880
symbolism that yolo was working with

2970
01:40:38,070 --> 01:40:36,719
and so there's a sequel in the works

2971
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,080
that will integrate the cold bring with

2972
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:40,080
that and a whole bunch of other stuff so

2973
01:40:43,270 --> 01:40:41,360
that but that's that's a couple of years

2974
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:43,280
off because that needs a lot of a lot of

2975
01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,119
further work and a lot of testing how

2976
01:40:48,709 --> 01:40:46,960
how did you how do you come up with

2977
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,719
right and you're you're discovering

2978
01:40:51,430 --> 01:40:50,159
these systems and reworking them because

2979
01:40:54,470 --> 01:40:51,440
again you have

2980
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,480
a vast amount and when i say vast uh

2981
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:56,639
again when i when when we say that he

2982
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:58,159
wrote the

2983
01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:01,920
esoteric works and magic he actually

2984
01:41:10,629 --> 01:41:08,390
yeah you know i wrote the encyclopedia i

2985
01:41:14,390 --> 01:41:10,639
wrote the encyclopedia secret societies

2986
01:41:19,510 --> 01:41:14,400
um so i see it how do i do it well yeah

2987
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:19,520
because we we had um we had um

2988
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:20,719
gordon white

2989
01:41:23,910 --> 01:41:22,560
and his name again he has one of those

2990
01:41:25,750 --> 01:41:23,920
names where it's like two syllables and

2991
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,760
then one syllable and they're both

2992
01:41:29,350 --> 01:41:27,760
fairly like they're both fairly common

2993
01:41:31,990 --> 01:41:29,360
so always get stuck trying to remember

2994
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:32,000
which is first and which is last uh he's

2995
01:41:36,470 --> 01:41:34,159
more of and he's from australia i'm not

2996
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:36,480
sure if you if you know him he he uh

2997
01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:40,320
uh we haven't met okay but he

2998
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:42,960
for him it's it's about a chaos magic to

2999
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:45,119
try and reduce probability to try and

3000
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:48,000
arrive at uh you know the the active

3001
01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:50,239
ingredient as we say is you know to to

3002
01:41:53,830 --> 01:41:52,080
make chance work in your favor so you

3003
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:53,840
can get the result you want

3004
01:42:00,310 --> 01:41:56,800
is is this how all magic works or

3005
01:42:01,750 --> 01:42:00,320
is there no it's the thing is nobody

3006
01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,760
remember we're always talking about

3007
01:42:05,189 --> 01:42:03,360
models

3008
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:05,199
we know that certain things have certain

3009
01:42:08,390 --> 01:42:06,639
results and we come up with various

3010
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:08,400
theoretical models to explain why that

3011
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:09,840
is if you're a chaos magician you're

3012
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,119
probably going to come up with something

3013
01:42:14,310 --> 01:42:12,800
like gordon white's theory

3014
01:42:16,709 --> 01:42:14,320
there are many different ways to talk

3015
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:16,719
about it and i've explored several of

3016
01:42:20,870 --> 01:42:18,960
them and i don't know you know that any

3017
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:20,880
of them are really better than any of

3018
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:23,040
the others it's useful to have a model

3019
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:25,119
so you can guide your guide your actions

3020
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:28,800
but the map is not the territory

3021
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:30,080
what we know is that doing certain

3022
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:32,239
things produces certain results

3023
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:33,760
everything else

3024
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:39,430
and

3025
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:40,719
for

3026
01:42:46,149 --> 01:42:42,880
most systems is it words of power are we

3027
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,159
talking uh signs and sigils that need to

3028
01:42:51,669 --> 01:42:48,400
be arranged in a certain way

3029
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:51,679
how um you know or or certain uh

3030
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:53,280
like alchemical

3031
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:54,800
ingredients i know the idea of eye of

3032
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:57,199
mute et cetera et cetera which you can

3033
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:58,960
sometimes be laughed at but you know

3034
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:01,360
there are certain um chemicals that can

3035
01:43:04,550 --> 01:43:02,639
be used or released into the air which

3036
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:04,560
can let's say uh you know release an

3037
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:07,440
aroma uh how do these work because when

3038
01:43:10,790 --> 01:43:08,800
i look at magic i look at it from a

3039
01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:10,800
standpoint of okay it's it's like how

3040
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,960
how thor said in in the first thor movie

3041
01:43:18,149 --> 01:43:15,280
and i'm going to reference a marvel

3042
01:43:19,350 --> 01:43:18,159
a movie based off of a comic book which

3043
01:43:21,430 --> 01:43:19,360
is based off of

3044
01:43:23,510 --> 01:43:21,440
a mythology that is goodness knows how

3045
01:43:25,590 --> 01:43:23,520
many how many years old

3046
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,600
with the idea of magic being a science

3047
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:26,880
to them where

3048
01:43:29,910 --> 01:43:27,840
the

3049
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,920
idea that you're able to at least alter

3050
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:31,600
reality from

3051
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:33,280
from any standpoint

3052
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:34,719
whether you're talking a quantum level

3053
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:36,080
whether you're talking

3054
01:43:40,149 --> 01:43:39,119
on a chemical level or or a physical

3055
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:40,159
level

3056
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:42,480
there's some type of action that you're

3057
01:43:47,590 --> 01:43:44,960
trying to get and the combination of

3058
01:43:50,790 --> 01:43:47,600
either the right symbol the word an

3059
01:43:53,030 --> 01:43:50,800
ingredient an action and you know belief

3060
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:53,040
can then manifest or make that a reality

3061
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,239
whether it's to make somebody fall in

3062
01:43:57,510 --> 01:43:56,480
love with you or get have money come

3063
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:57,520
your way

3064
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:59,520
or you know give your your neighbor a

3065
01:44:03,270 --> 01:44:01,119
wart or

3066
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:03,280
you know remove a work from you if you

3067
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:04,880
unfortunately have run into the wrong

3068
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:07,119
person multiple times in a vertical you

3069
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:09,280
know in a horizontal position that type

3070
01:44:12,390 --> 01:44:10,239
of thing

3071
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:12,400
um again that's more egyptian magic that

3072
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,510
from like give give me a a good

3073
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,920
like a good run down of how you would or

3074
01:44:25,910 --> 01:44:22,960
like

3075
01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:25,920
you look at at a situation say how can i

3076
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:28,880
apply magic to this and how would you

3077
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:31,360
then apply it in a

3078
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,430
we're on youtube no you know the the

3079
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:43,280
people come on they leave they got to go

3080
01:44:46,870 --> 01:44:45,280
to bed they work they're on in england

3081
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:46,880
they're in australia

3082
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:48,480
we have as much time as you want except

3083
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,880
for i think denver has most post but

3084
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,960
yeah this is the thing is

3085
01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:54,480
it it would it would depend very much

3086
01:44:57,830 --> 01:44:56,480
because i've i've had i've had training

3087
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:57,840
now and half a dozen different magical

3088
01:45:02,310 --> 01:45:00,719
systems that have um series of magical

3089
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:02,320
action that are usually contradictory to

3090
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:04,719
one another doesn't matter they all work

3091
01:45:08,870 --> 01:45:06,400
what we know

3092
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,880
is that under certain circumstances the

3093
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,719
world is the world as we experience it

3094
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,840
which is of course all the world that we

3095
01:45:15,510 --> 01:45:13,760
can know the world as we experience it

3096
01:45:16,550 --> 01:45:15,520
can be shaped by changes in our

3097
01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:16,560
consciousness

3098
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:18,719
dion fortune who who is one of my major

3099
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,760
guides here refers to the

3100
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:23,520
defines magic as the art and science of

3101
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:25,199
causing change in consciousness in

3102
01:45:28,550 --> 01:45:26,719
accordance with will

3103
01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:28,560
and everyone says oh you mean psychology

3104
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:32,239
well not necessarily because everything

3105
01:45:35,350 --> 01:45:33,679
you experience is filtered through

3106
01:45:36,870 --> 01:45:35,360
consciousness

3107
01:45:38,870 --> 01:45:36,880
everything that you will you know the

3108
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:38,880
entire universe exp

3109
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:40,320
the entire universe as far as you are

3110
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:42,239
concerned is a reflection in your

3111
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:43,920
consciousness you can never get outside

3112
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:44,960
that

3113
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:47,199
and so the universe is to some extent

3114
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:48,560
flexible that way we don't know how

3115
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:50,639
flexible what are the outer limits

3116
01:45:53,189 --> 01:45:52,080
nobody knows yet

3117
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:53,199
we know there are some things you

3118
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:54,480
probably won't be able to do very well

3119
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,760
by magic we know there are some things

3120
01:45:58,950 --> 01:45:57,280
you can do very easily then there's the

3121
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,960
gray area in between

3122
01:46:02,149 --> 01:46:00,000
um

3123
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:02,159
if it's something now i'm gonna i'm

3124
01:46:06,550 --> 01:46:04,960
gonna insert something here as a bit of

3125
01:46:08,149 --> 01:46:06,560
a warning

3126
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:08,159
because you mentioned for example making

3127
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:09,679
people fall in love with you lots of

3128
01:46:12,629 --> 01:46:11,280
people do that let's do or try to do

3129
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:12,639
that

3130
01:46:18,550 --> 01:46:15,920
reputation of blowing up in people's

3131
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:18,560
faces what typically happens is that you

3132
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:20,880
put a love whammy on somebody okay and

3133
01:46:25,350 --> 01:46:23,440
they feel for maybe 20 minutes and um

3134
01:46:26,950 --> 01:46:25,360
unexpected warm fuzzies toward you and

3135
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:26,960
then they go and then unless you know

3136
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:28,239
there's some good reason for them to

3137
01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:30,719
feel warm fuzzy toward you they go yuck

3138
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:32,239
what am i thinking and they'll never

3139
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:33,920
have anything to do with you again

3140
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:35,199
then the spell rebounds you feel

3141
01:46:37,990 --> 01:46:36,639
hopelessly in love with them and it

3142
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:38,000
takes you know months or years to wear

3143
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:38,880
off

3144
01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:41,600
that's the usual rebound similarly

3145
01:46:46,229 --> 01:46:44,719
um spells to spells to make money

3146
01:46:48,709 --> 01:46:46,239
you can do it very well if you do it the

3147
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:48,719
right way okay but the way the right way

3148
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:49,920
is

3149
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:52,719
i want an opportunity to earn money

3150
01:46:56,070 --> 01:46:54,560
if you say i want money to come to me

3151
01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:56,080
without my happy to earn it what you're

3152
01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:57,520
actually asking for is for the world to

3153
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:59,119
become less fair

3154
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,480
because for you to get money you didn't

3155
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:01,920
earn someone else has to earn money and

3156
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:03,360
not get it right

3157
01:47:08,310 --> 01:47:05,840
so the most likely way in which the

3158
01:47:10,229 --> 01:47:08,320
universe will become less fair is that

3159
01:47:13,109 --> 01:47:10,239
you will be ripped off you will be

3160
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:13,119
cheated you will lose money everybody i

3161
01:47:15,990 --> 01:47:14,080
know

3162
01:47:17,830 --> 01:47:16,000
who has done that kind of gimme money

3163
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,840
spell has ended up losing their shirt as

3164
01:47:20,629 --> 01:47:19,920
a result

3165
01:47:22,709 --> 01:47:20,639
so

3166
01:47:23,590 --> 01:47:22,719
if you do i want an opportunity to earn

3167
01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:23,600
money

3168
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:25,199
that's another matter

3169
01:47:28,709 --> 01:47:26,639
you can do that and make it work you'll

3170
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:28,719
be fine similarly if you want to do a

3171
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:30,400
love spell there's actually an extremely

3172
01:47:35,350 --> 01:47:32,960
effective love spell that anybody can do

3173
01:47:37,510 --> 01:47:35,360
it is it is infallible

3174
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:37,520
it works every single time it is

3175
01:47:41,189 --> 01:47:39,119
unstoppable it consists of making

3176
01:47:42,790 --> 01:47:41,199
yourself more lovable

3177
01:47:44,229 --> 01:47:42,800
most people who are having problems with

3178
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:44,239
love it's because they're not actually

3179
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:45,600
lovable people

3180
01:47:49,189 --> 01:47:47,199
and so you actually have to change

3181
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:49,199
yourself

3182
01:47:53,350 --> 01:47:50,800
rather than trying to force somebody

3183
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,360
else to get um you know to feel

3184
01:47:56,709 --> 01:47:54,960
warm emotions toward you that you have

3185
01:47:58,070 --> 01:47:56,719
done nothing to earn

3186
01:47:59,430 --> 01:47:58,080
make yourself love it but when people

3187
01:48:01,189 --> 01:47:59,440
will fall in love with you all the time

3188
01:48:02,470 --> 01:48:01,199
you can use magic for that you can you

3189
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:02,480
can change your self image you can

3190
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:04,880
rework how you relate to the world you

3191
01:48:08,229 --> 01:48:06,239
can invoke

3192
01:48:09,910 --> 01:48:08,239
forces into yourself that will reshape

3193
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:09,920
how you relate to people of your

3194
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:12,159
preferred gender or what have you and

3195
01:48:15,350 --> 01:48:13,600
you know people will fall in love with

3196
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,360
you because you're lovable

3197
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:18,000
otherwise it's not going to work so well

3198
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:20,080
so anytime i'm looking at a magical

3199
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,159
situation okay what what you know here's

3200
01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:24,320
the situation in my life i want it to

3201
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:26,000
change there's there are things wrong

3202
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:28,080
here there are things i do not like i do

3203
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:29,920
not think okay what can i change in the

3204
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,600
universe i think what can i change in

3205
01:48:35,669 --> 01:48:33,119
myself

3206
01:48:37,350 --> 01:48:35,679
how am i relating to the universe in a

3207
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:37,360
way that is setting up these conflicts

3208
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:39,840
because that's usually what's going on

3209
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:41,840
most of us constantly kick ourselves on

3210
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,400
our own backside all the time and if we

3211
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:46,480
simply stop doing that life works really

3212
01:48:52,629 --> 01:48:50,550
it's like the law of attraction i i know

3213
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,639
some some life like the people will

3214
01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:54,239
swear by the law of attraction or the

3215
01:48:56,709 --> 01:48:55,360
secret

3216
01:48:58,629 --> 01:48:56,719
if you probably know what the book is

3217
01:48:59,669 --> 01:48:58,639
going you know it's it's that oh yeah

3218
01:49:02,550 --> 01:48:59,679
yeah

3219
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,560
it's still still doing this i i i got to

3220
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,480
see the law the law of attraction at

3221
01:49:07,990 --> 01:49:06,560
work when when my wife and i were living

3222
01:49:10,310 --> 01:49:08,000
in southern oregon we were in a town

3223
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:10,320
that had was very heavily new age it was

3224
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,520
kind of a

3225
01:49:15,189 --> 01:49:13,520
sort of a yuppie ghetto in the middle of

3226
01:49:16,470 --> 01:49:15,199
southwestern oregon

3227
01:49:18,149 --> 01:49:16,480
and

3228
01:49:19,910 --> 01:49:18,159
all these people were piling into the

3229
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,920
law of attraction and trying to use it

3230
01:49:25,350 --> 01:49:21,440
to make lots of money in the real estate

3231
01:49:26,149 --> 01:49:25,360
market this was in 2005 2006 2007

3232
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:26,159
okay

3233
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:27,360
and then the market dropped out from

3234
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:32,950
the universe does not want you to be

3235
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:33,840
rich

3236
01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:38,719
any any of our listeners who wants to

3237
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:40,719
become a millionaire you can do that all

3238
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:42,400
you have to do is change your attitude

3239
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,920
toward money

3240
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:45,840
if you look at every dollar that comes

3241
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:47,520
your way and say okay this is a tool to

3242
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:52,629
you'll become a millionaire

3243
01:49:56,709 --> 01:49:54,480
you know every cent becomes an

3244
01:49:58,470 --> 01:49:56,719
instrument for your goal if all your

3245
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:58,480
actions and all your choices and

3246
01:50:02,229 --> 01:50:00,880
everything in your life zeros in on the

3247
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:02,239
process of becoming a millionaire you

3248
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:03,760
will become a millionaire you may become

3249
01:50:06,629 --> 01:50:05,280
a billionaire

3250
01:50:08,550 --> 01:50:06,639
but most people don't have that

3251
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:08,560
singleness of intent they say well i

3252
01:50:11,270 --> 01:50:09,760
want to become a millionaire and i also

3253
01:50:13,109 --> 01:50:11,280
want to spend a million dollars well you

3254
01:50:15,189 --> 01:50:13,119
can't do both you can either you know

3255
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:15,199
you can't have your cake and eat it too

3256
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:16,239
um

3257
01:50:19,270 --> 01:50:17,440
take your pick

3258
01:50:21,910 --> 01:50:19,280
well this is so

3259
01:50:23,430 --> 01:50:21,920
yeah go ahead okay so this is um i'm

3260
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:23,440
going to digress here for a little bit

3261
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:25,520
of a second i'm trying to quit smoking

3262
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:27,520
i've been a smoker since the age of 15.

3263
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:29,679
i've tried everything uh the patch the

3264
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:31,760
the uh you know the gum i've got the

3265
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:34,400
vape which work i do on the show uh but

3266
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:36,639
have not been able to quit my i and i

3267
01:50:41,590 --> 01:50:39,920
can actually i'll announce this on air

3268
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:41,600
and because my mom knows at this point

3269
01:50:45,590 --> 01:50:43,199
uh by

3270
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:45,600
we're thinking december 9th

3271
01:50:50,229 --> 01:50:47,840
uh i will actually become a father

3272
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:50,239
so my you know white wife is pregnant we

3273
01:50:52,629 --> 01:50:51,360
found it a while ago we haven't

3274
01:50:54,070 --> 01:50:52,639
announced it i've kind of been on the

3275
01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:54,080
show thank you

3276
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:55,760
uh because of that i'm like okay well i

3277
01:50:58,070 --> 01:50:57,040
got to quit smoking

3278
01:51:00,310 --> 01:50:58,080
and i know

3279
01:51:01,750 --> 01:51:00,320
deep down inside why i

3280
01:51:03,669 --> 01:51:01,760
why i need to quit and why i have to

3281
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:03,679
quit

3282
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:05,440
so i've got a but you don't want but you

3283
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,159
don't actually want to quit no so i went

3284
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:10,400
to go see my i've got a client i do

3285
01:51:14,629 --> 01:51:13,520
advertising and and web design and he's

3286
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:14,639
a life coach

3287
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:15,440
so

3288
01:51:19,109 --> 01:51:17,679
i'm like okay well you know we'll we'll

3289
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:19,119
do a little exchange we like each other

3290
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,880
we kind of see eye to eye we get each

3291
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:22,159
other on a

3292
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:24,000
personal level um as well as a

3293
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:25,280
professional we we know where we're

3294
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:26,800
coming from we're very good with like

3295
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:28,800
good like that he's like okay so what

3296
01:51:33,910 --> 01:51:31,440
i'm gonna do is uh you know we'll have a

3297
01:51:35,350 --> 01:51:33,920
co-creation meeting and you know you

3298
01:51:37,910 --> 01:51:35,360
will do an hour an hour an hour and a

3299
01:51:39,189 --> 01:51:37,920
half of of uh work and we'll co-create

3300
01:51:41,910 --> 01:51:39,199
and you'll that'll be off the books and

3301
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,920
then i'll i'll coach you with uh with um

3302
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:42,639
and i thought it was gonna be

3303
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:44,480
hypnotherapy no it's it's like

3304
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:47,119
neuro-linguistic programming uh with a

3305
01:51:51,030 --> 01:51:48,719
very heavy amount because he's traveled

3306
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:51,040
all over the world and and

3307
01:51:54,390 --> 01:51:52,800
done work and study with all these you

3308
01:51:55,990 --> 01:51:54,400
know like all these mystics and and and

3309
01:51:58,229 --> 01:51:56,000
holy people from anywhere from from

3310
01:52:00,470 --> 01:51:58,239
right to bet you name it he's been there

3311
01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:00,480
uh and he's like okay well so we go

3312
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:01,440
through the entire like we go through

3313
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:02,800
this entire process and i understand the

3314
01:52:05,430 --> 01:52:04,239
whole tony robbins thing so i know where

3315
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:05,440
he's going with that

3316
01:52:09,189 --> 01:52:07,679
but there came a certain point in time

3317
01:52:10,709 --> 01:52:09,199
where there was a lot of intent in terms

3318
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:10,719
of you know what i

3319
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:11,520
you know

3320
01:52:13,910 --> 01:52:12,800
what i was looking to do the person i

3321
01:52:15,430 --> 01:52:13,920
wanted to be

3322
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:15,440
and then all of a sudden you know this

3323
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:16,880
breathing technique and this meditation

3324
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:17,920
that i was going through and i could

3325
01:52:22,709 --> 01:52:20,639
just feel like the the spot right behind

3326
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:22,719
the the bridge of the nose

3327
01:52:26,229 --> 01:52:24,639
and like i'm like it's

3328
01:52:28,070 --> 01:52:26,239
it's like if you've ever hyperventilated

3329
01:52:29,510 --> 01:52:28,080
and your fingers have gone numb

3330
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:29,520
you know it was like having that behind

3331
01:52:34,070 --> 01:52:31,920
my you know like behind my my my head

3332
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:34,080
and i i've talked to enough people who

3333
01:52:37,109 --> 01:52:35,760
know to at least understand that it's

3334
01:52:39,990 --> 01:52:37,119
yeah that's basically my third eye going

3335
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:40,000
that's my pineal grant a pineal gland

3336
01:52:42,950 --> 01:52:41,840
essentially doing its thing

3337
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:42,960
and

3338
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:43,840
you know there was there was a real

3339
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:45,199
cathartic experience where i'm sitting

3340
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,159
there going

3341
01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:48,480
okay well if i have to quit smoking i

3342
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:50,239
have to i know the person i need to be

3343
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:51,679
or the person i want to be and see

3344
01:52:56,229 --> 01:52:53,280
myself as the

3345
01:52:57,430 --> 01:52:56,239
the best version of myself

3346
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:57,440
and it's like i know what i need to be

3347
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,639
able to do to quit which is not just

3348
01:53:01,830 --> 01:53:00,400
quitting smoking it's being able to to

3349
01:53:04,870 --> 01:53:01,840
dominate

3350
01:53:07,270 --> 01:53:04,880
concept of smoking

3351
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:07,280
um so now i have a pack of cigarettes an

3352
01:53:11,109 --> 01:53:09,119
unopened pack of cigarettes that i'm

3353
01:53:12,470 --> 01:53:11,119
wrapping in messages basically saying

3354
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:12,480
okay i'm leaving everything covered

3355
01:53:16,070 --> 01:53:14,400
except for the the self like the wrapper

3356
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:16,080
the the little strain that opens it and

3357
01:53:19,350 --> 01:53:17,840
it's basically saying if you open this

3358
01:53:20,550 --> 01:53:19,360
pack of cigarettes

3359
01:53:22,149 --> 01:53:20,560
you're a [\h__\h]

3360
01:53:23,189 --> 01:53:22,159
you can be better than that

3361
01:53:25,430 --> 01:53:23,199
and

3362
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:25,440
at the time that this revelation was

3363
01:53:29,109 --> 01:53:26,560
going on and we're going through this

3364
01:53:31,109 --> 01:53:29,119
entire this this meditation process

3365
01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:31,119
there's the sense of

3366
01:53:35,270 --> 01:53:33,199
holy [\h__\h] it's it's not just a matter of

3367
01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,280
okay if i can quit smoking i can [\h__\h]

3368
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:37,520
manifest anything

3369
01:53:41,669 --> 01:53:39,679
and there's a certain amount of power in

3370
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:41,679
that i'm sitting in the meeting and he's

3371
01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:44,080
going it's like do you want like is this

3372
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:45,360
the man you want to be do you want to be

3373
01:53:48,229 --> 01:53:47,040
that man i think he was talking about

3374
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:48,239
you know smoking cigarettes i'm saying

3375
01:53:51,270 --> 01:53:49,520
they're like are you sure you want me to

3376
01:53:52,870 --> 01:53:51,280
become the man that you're asking to

3377
01:53:54,870 --> 01:53:52,880
come out right now because it's like if

3378
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,880
i can manifest anything and i can make

3379
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:56,719
anything happen and if i think it i can

3380
01:53:59,669 --> 01:53:57,760
do it

3381
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,679
you know that could be a

3382
01:54:02,550 --> 01:54:00,719
you know it's

3383
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:02,560
there there's a certain responsibility

3384
01:54:06,709 --> 01:54:04,560
with that power

3385
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:06,719
and it's like okay well you step through

3386
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,760
the door and it's like my eyes are

3387
01:54:11,669 --> 01:54:09,360
closed and it's like

3388
01:54:13,270 --> 01:54:11,679
imagine a solar eclipse with a

3389
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:13,280
with with the moon completely over top

3390
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:14,880
of it that's kind of the equivalent of

3391
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:16,800
what your peripheral vision's like and

3392
01:54:20,470 --> 01:54:18,480
it's just white light all on the outside

3393
01:54:22,629 --> 01:54:20,480
and dark and just this blinding white

3394
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:22,639
light in the center

3395
01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:24,800
so you're talking all seeing eye right

3396
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,480
you step through you're like okay you

3397
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:28,960
make the conscious choice to

3398
01:54:33,910 --> 01:54:31,520
commit to this action commit to this

3399
01:54:35,910 --> 01:54:33,920
this manifestation of your will out into

3400
01:54:38,390 --> 01:54:35,920
the world and it's like stepping out

3401
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:38,400
from a dark room to the outside where

3402
01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:39,360
all of a sudden you're transitioning

3403
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:41,119
from complete darkness to to light and

3404
01:54:45,350 --> 01:54:43,520
it's like you're essentially having like

3405
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:45,360
your your nose to nose with the surface

3406
01:54:50,070 --> 01:54:47,280
of the sun

3407
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:50,080
i i you know it could have been the deep

3408
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,520
breathing exercises and it could have

3409
01:54:55,910 --> 01:54:54,000
been a lot of dmt or lack of oxygen a

3410
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:55,920
lot of co2 i don't know

3411
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:58,000
but the

3412
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,080
the feeling of having that power and

3413
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:03,280
ability to change reality no matter what

3414
01:55:07,510 --> 01:55:05,360
and then realizing that if you do it

3415
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:07,520
there's going to be consequences you're

3416
01:55:12,550 --> 01:55:09,920
going to have to make choices difficult

3417
01:55:15,109 --> 01:55:12,560
ones to get what you will be responsible

3418
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:15,119
for the consequences exactly and what

3419
01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:16,960
i'm saying okay well i'm asking a

3420
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:18,159
question he asked me a question and i

3421
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:20,639
said are you sure you want me to do that

3422
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:23,040
it's me asking myself are you sure you

3423
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:24,960
want to take that step because of those

3424
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:26,800
consequences can you accept

3425
01:55:33,030 --> 01:55:27,760
the

3426
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:33,040
and be you know

3427
01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:35,119
taking your will to conquer this one

3428
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:36,800
small thing and when you do that you

3429
01:55:39,990 --> 01:55:38,400
have that discipline well then the

3430
01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:40,000
entire world is pretty much at your at

3431
01:55:43,510 --> 01:55:41,119
your fingertips and whether it's

3432
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:43,520
actually or not you know i'm not crazy

3433
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:45,920
but that's the feeling you get and but

3434
01:55:50,229 --> 01:55:48,400
yeah then the thing the thing is

3435
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:50,239
the important thing and i think

3436
01:55:54,709 --> 01:55:51,679
you've got a good coach there simply

3437
01:55:58,149 --> 01:55:54,719
because it's not just changing one thing

3438
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:58,159
no something like a habit like smoking

3439
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:59,760
is woven through all kinds of other

3440
01:56:02,470 --> 01:56:01,040
things in your life and if you're going

3441
01:56:08,070 --> 01:56:02,480
to change the habit you're going to

3442
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:10,070
everything will change

3443
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,239
nothing will remain the same nope

3444
01:56:16,149 --> 01:56:14,400
and that's just the way it is now the

3445
01:56:18,149 --> 01:56:16,159
idea of consequences is something that

3446
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:18,159
i've i've always found

3447
01:56:23,589 --> 01:56:21,360
supremely fascinating and it always

3448
01:56:25,430 --> 01:56:23,599
it's the argument that now first of all

3449
01:56:27,109 --> 01:56:25,440
is the rule the the law of three if you

3450
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:27,119
do anything then you get three times

3451
01:56:31,030 --> 01:56:29,360
that back is is that a general accepted

3452
01:56:33,109 --> 01:56:31,040
principle

3453
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:33,119
um no it's specific that's specifically

3454
01:56:36,550 --> 01:56:35,840
a um that's that's a wicked tradition

3455
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:36,560
and

3456
01:56:40,950 --> 01:56:38,400
uh most people consider it an extreme

3457
01:56:43,030 --> 01:56:40,960
generalization but certainly

3458
01:56:45,030 --> 01:56:43,040
everything you do

3459
01:56:49,270 --> 01:56:45,040
shapes who you are and who you are

3460
01:56:51,669 --> 01:56:50,229
and

3461
01:56:52,870 --> 01:56:51,679
for

3462
01:56:54,870 --> 01:56:52,880
and this is going to sound very basic

3463
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:54,880
and this is also some curiosity but also

3464
01:56:57,430 --> 01:56:56,080
i just would love to be able to have

3465
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,440
those who say

3466
01:57:01,430 --> 01:57:00,000
you know this this dark evil you know

3467
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:01,440
magic isn't it

3468
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,800
okay so

3469
01:57:07,430 --> 01:57:04,480
the

3470
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:07,440
world can be a certain way

3471
01:57:10,709 --> 01:57:08,639
and that if you're going to do bad

3472
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,719
you're going to get bad back

3473
01:57:14,629 --> 01:57:12,719
that if you're going to

3474
01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:14,639
the argument i have is okay well they're

3475
01:57:20,790 --> 01:57:17,840
having some type of child sex ritual to

3476
01:57:21,910 --> 01:57:20,800
empower themselves with xyz all right

3477
01:57:23,910 --> 01:57:21,920
the

3478
01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:23,920
you know even just going by just basic

3479
01:57:28,390 --> 01:57:26,320
you know if you know action gives you an

3480
01:57:30,229 --> 01:57:28,400
equal reaction and if we can go along

3481
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,239
that same idea of thinking if you're

3482
01:57:33,510 --> 01:57:32,159
gonna do some bad [\h__\h] to a child which

3483
01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:33,520
is essentially hurting one of the most

3484
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:35,360
innocent things in the planet it doesn't

3485
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:37,040
matter what kind of power you get short

3486
01:57:41,830 --> 01:57:38,960
term you're gonna you're going to get

3487
01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:41,840
screwed so bad by the universe for doing

3488
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:44,320
it yeah you are just you're setting

3489
01:57:50,709 --> 01:57:48,560
yourself up for a world of hurt yeah

3490
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:50,719
the every competent occultist i know of

3491
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:52,480
recommends that recognizes basically

3492
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:54,880
that you have to you have to approach

3493
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,000
things

3494
01:58:00,790 --> 01:57:58,639
in a manner that says okay um you know

3495
01:58:02,390 --> 01:58:00,800
what do i want in life

3496
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:02,400
what i want in life is what i need to

3497
01:58:06,310 --> 01:58:04,000
make happen in the universe and that

3498
01:58:07,990 --> 01:58:06,320
means happening to other people as well

3499
01:58:10,149 --> 01:58:08,000
and so you know it's

3500
01:58:11,830 --> 01:58:10,159
if you go around doing you're putting

3501
01:58:13,750 --> 01:58:11,840
whammies on people it's what this is

3502
01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:13,760
what i call the raspberry jam principle

3503
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:15,199
okay

3504
01:58:18,149 --> 01:58:16,800
if you've ever tried spreading raspberry

3505
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:18,159
jam on bread you're going to get some on

3506
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:21,040
your own fingers okay if you're going to

3507
01:58:24,229 --> 01:58:22,880
spread magical energies on the world

3508
01:58:25,830 --> 01:58:24,239
you're going to get the same you're

3509
01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:25,840
going to get those energies on yourself

3510
01:58:29,669 --> 01:58:27,599
those energies pass through you and they

3511
01:58:32,310 --> 01:58:29,679
will shape your life too

3512
01:58:34,709 --> 01:58:32,320
so if you're passing if you're moving

3513
01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:34,719
nasty energies through your own energy

3514
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:36,000
body

3515
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:37,440
that's going to affect your life it's

3516
01:58:40,550 --> 01:58:38,880
going to radiate out it's going to shape

3517
01:58:42,310 --> 01:58:40,560
your experience of the world and your

3518
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:42,320
life is going to become a smoking crater

3519
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:43,679
if you keep it up on the other hand if

3520
01:58:47,430 --> 01:58:45,760
you do beneficial things to the world

3521
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:47,440
beneficial things will happen in your

3522
01:58:51,589 --> 01:58:49,679
life it is that simple now i know people

3523
01:58:53,109 --> 01:58:51,599
who i know people who insist that that

3524
01:58:54,310 --> 01:58:53,119
that doesn't happen it can't be blah

3525
01:58:56,149 --> 01:58:54,320
blah blah

3526
01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:56,159
every one of them who practices magic

3527
01:59:00,790 --> 01:58:58,080
again their lives are smoking craters

3528
01:59:03,109 --> 01:59:00,800
their lives are disasters because

3529
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:03,119
you know thus just because you don't

3530
01:59:06,790 --> 01:59:05,119
believe

3531
01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:06,800
in these things doesn't mean they're not

3532
01:59:14,390 --> 01:59:11,910
and that is that goes back to the the

3533
01:59:15,750 --> 01:59:14,400
fear thing if you believe that

3534
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:15,760
if you're afraid that rich

3535
01:59:19,030 --> 01:59:17,679
industrialists who

3536
01:59:21,189 --> 01:59:19,040
will sell you

3537
01:59:22,629 --> 01:59:21,199
you know big macs and fries that if you

3538
01:59:24,790 --> 01:59:22,639
eat three times a day are gonna make you

3539
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:24,800
fat are also behind the scenes

3540
01:59:28,550 --> 01:59:27,280
you know sacrificing children to

3541
01:59:29,990 --> 01:59:28,560
get more power and influence so that

3542
01:59:31,750 --> 01:59:30,000
they they can sell you more burgers and

3543
01:59:33,830 --> 01:59:31,760
fries that are gonna make you fat

3544
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:33,840
chances are maybe you should hit the gym

3545
01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:35,280
like you know there's this there's a

3546
01:59:38,229 --> 01:59:36,560
certain way to be able to do that it's

3547
01:59:40,229 --> 01:59:38,239
like if you're afraid like don't like

3548
01:59:41,030 --> 01:59:40,239
don't put the big mac down

3549
01:59:43,109 --> 01:59:41,040
and i

3550
01:59:45,270 --> 01:59:43,119
i i have a mcdonald's near my house it's

3551
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:45,280
great for breakfast so convenient so

3552
01:59:50,149 --> 01:59:48,239
reasonably priced the griddles are just

3553
01:59:52,149 --> 01:59:50,159
oh like it's it's it's it's like it's

3554
01:59:53,990 --> 01:59:52,159
like having

3555
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:54,000
you know it's like eating pizza for

3556
01:59:58,070 --> 01:59:56,560
breakfast but like dale pizza that's

3557
01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:58,080
really really thick and greasy so it's

3558
02:00:00,550 --> 01:59:59,199
like that

3559
02:00:01,350 --> 02:00:00,560
but at the same time i know it's bad for

3560
02:00:03,990 --> 02:00:01,360
me

3561
02:00:05,030 --> 02:00:04,000
um if i'm

3562
02:00:07,109 --> 02:00:05,040
where is it going with this because now

3563
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:07,119
i'm just like hungry

3564
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:09,760
um well the thing that i point to to

3565
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:11,840
cycle back to the the evil great mac the

3566
02:00:16,070 --> 02:00:14,400
evil big mac conspiracy

3567
02:00:18,470 --> 02:00:16,080
okay go yep so the evil big man

3568
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:18,480
conspiracy the thing about conspiracy

3569
02:00:22,149 --> 02:00:20,080
that are there conspiracies of course

3570
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:22,159
there are some people for thousands of

3571
02:00:25,030 --> 02:00:23,440
years

3572
02:00:26,390 --> 02:00:25,040
he people and the thing is they're

3573
02:00:28,310 --> 02:00:26,400
always conspiracies and they're always

3574
02:00:29,830 --> 02:00:28,320
competing with one another

3575
02:00:31,430 --> 02:00:29,840
that's why everyone gets into these big

3576
02:00:33,750 --> 02:00:31,440
tangles about well who actually runs the

3577
02:00:35,270 --> 02:00:33,760
world nobody because there are all of

3578
02:00:37,669 --> 02:00:35,280
these different competing groups that

3579
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:37,679
are using this or that or another power

3580
02:00:40,550 --> 02:00:39,440
basis to try to maximize their own

3581
02:00:42,390 --> 02:00:40,560
benefit

3582
02:00:43,910 --> 02:00:42,400
um that's just that's the way things are

3583
02:00:46,390 --> 02:00:43,920
but the thing is when people become

3584
02:00:47,990 --> 02:00:46,400
fixated on conspiracies very often it's

3585
02:00:49,669 --> 02:00:48,000
to avoid having to take responsibility

3586
02:00:51,750 --> 02:00:49,679
for their own lives

3587
02:00:53,350 --> 02:00:51,760
you know again it's not you know it's

3588
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:53,360
these evil people who are doing rituals

3589
02:00:57,350 --> 02:00:56,080
to make me eat big macs

3590
02:00:59,510 --> 02:00:57,360
um

3591
02:01:01,510 --> 02:00:59,520
oh really well no well at the same time

3592
02:01:03,910 --> 02:01:01,520
maybe instead you should just like go

3593
02:01:05,189 --> 02:01:03,920
somewhere else for lunch

3594
02:01:06,470 --> 02:01:05,199
it's personal responsibility it's

3595
02:01:08,390 --> 02:01:06,480
personal responsibility it's personal

3596
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:08,400
responsibility like

3597
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:09,119
the

3598
02:01:26,229 --> 02:01:23,679
control that it's just doing its own

3599
02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:26,239
thing and nobody can stop it or make it

3600
02:01:30,390 --> 02:01:28,000
any different it's just going to do what

3601
02:01:32,070 --> 02:01:30,400
it's going to do that's scary

3602
02:01:33,510 --> 02:01:32,080
and so one way around that is that

3603
02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:33,520
people will get caught up in the idea

3604
02:01:37,030 --> 02:01:35,520
that you know rich industrialists are

3605
02:01:39,109 --> 02:01:37,040
sacrificing children to sell you big

3606
02:01:40,709 --> 02:01:39,119
macs because that gives that that at

3607
02:01:43,990 --> 02:01:40,719
least gives you the vicarious sense that

3608
02:01:45,510 --> 02:01:44,000
the universe is under someone's control

3609
02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:45,520
they would rather believe in evil dark

3610
02:01:50,149 --> 02:01:47,920
forces than no forces at all

3611
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:50,159
exactly well you know and the thing is i

3612
02:01:53,350 --> 02:01:51,599
so many people i know who are deeply

3613
02:01:54,550 --> 02:01:53,360
into conspiracy theory also claim to be

3614
02:01:55,830 --> 02:01:54,560
into new age

3615
02:01:58,070 --> 02:01:55,840
beliefs and they're saying well you know

3616
02:01:59,910 --> 02:01:58,080
we create our own reality okay why are

3617
02:02:02,709 --> 02:01:59,920
you creating a reality that's full of

3618
02:02:04,229 --> 02:02:02,719
evil space lizards

3619
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:04,239
what are you doing in a state of

3620
02:02:09,189 --> 02:02:06,080
consciousness thank you where that's

3621
02:02:11,990 --> 02:02:09,199
your reality thank you and you know yeah

3622
02:02:13,669 --> 02:02:12,000
exactly and watching people kind of

3623
02:02:15,589 --> 02:02:13,679
write around that one is kind of it's

3624
02:02:17,109 --> 02:02:15,599
entertaining but it really is an

3625
02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:17,119
important thing because people actually

3626
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:18,719
do want they people love their face

3627
02:02:23,109 --> 02:02:21,040
listen they want their space lizards

3628
02:02:25,270 --> 02:02:23,119
because space losers mean that it's not

3629
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:25,280
you space doesn't mean it's it's

3630
02:02:28,870 --> 02:02:26,719
everything's someone else's fault and

3631
02:02:31,270 --> 02:02:28,880
the universe is under control and you

3632
02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:31,280
don't actually have to deal with living

3633
02:02:36,310 --> 02:02:33,599
in the universe that is not

3634
02:02:38,229 --> 02:02:36,320
under control that nobody controls

3635
02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:38,239
that's going its own way and that

3636
02:02:41,589 --> 02:02:40,000
doesn't care

3637
02:02:43,030 --> 02:02:41,599
well for instance for like this this is

3638
02:02:44,950 --> 02:02:43,040
a perfect example and again i'm not

3639
02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:44,960
going to name any names here to try and

3640
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,400
avoid from getting sued

3641
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:48,239
just putting that out there

3642
02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:49,840
um

3643
02:02:52,550 --> 02:02:51,360
okay well because actually this was a

3644
02:02:54,390 --> 02:02:52,560
situation that i ran into a couple of

3645
02:02:57,830 --> 02:02:54,400
days like a couple of days ago

3646
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,840
uh and if i name people they like

3647
02:03:00,629 --> 02:02:59,280
they're in my city and they can sue the

3648
02:03:01,910 --> 02:03:00,639
like that they will sue the living [\h__\h]

3649
02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:01,920
out of me because they can

3650
02:03:06,229 --> 02:03:04,080
uh yeah exactly so yeah so so we're

3651
02:03:07,430 --> 02:03:06,239
going to say person x okay so so

3652
02:03:08,470 --> 02:03:07,440
essentially

3653
02:03:13,830 --> 02:03:08,480
um

3654
02:03:15,350 --> 02:03:13,840
was was increased

3655
02:03:17,030 --> 02:03:15,360
and

3656
02:03:19,589 --> 02:03:17,040
here in ontario it's gone up to fifteen

3657
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:19,599
dollars or or at least a buck fifty u.s

3658
02:03:24,310 --> 02:03:22,080
with some gum and maybe like a a button

3659
02:03:26,550 --> 02:03:24,320
or something from your shoe um

3660
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:26,560
so not very much in your standards but

3661
02:03:30,149 --> 02:03:28,719
you know for i think we were like 11.50

3662
02:03:32,870 --> 02:03:30,159
so it's going up

3663
02:03:35,350 --> 02:03:32,880
3.50 over the next couple of years

3664
02:03:38,149 --> 02:03:35,360
now every single time the

3665
02:03:39,030 --> 02:03:38,159
minimum wage goes up restauranteurs lose

3666
02:03:41,030 --> 02:03:39,040
their

3667
02:03:43,030 --> 02:03:41,040
freaking minds because they're like oh

3668
02:03:44,629 --> 02:03:43,040
my god our you know small businesses are

3669
02:03:46,390 --> 02:03:44,639
going to go out of bus like like small

3670
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:46,400
businesses are going to close and prices

3671
02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:47,280
are going to go up you're going to spend

3672
02:03:51,910 --> 02:03:49,920
like 12 13 for a pint of beer i'm like

3673
02:03:54,149 --> 02:03:51,920
well okay and it never happened well it

3674
02:03:55,589 --> 02:03:54,159
no it doesn't uh here so here here's my

3675
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:55,599
rationale

3676
02:03:59,189 --> 02:03:58,000
we all like it the idea of a 15 minimum

3677
02:04:01,750 --> 02:03:59,199
wage has been talked about in every

3678
02:04:03,589 --> 02:04:01,760
single american and canadian major city

3679
02:04:05,830 --> 02:04:03,599
and province and state at least that i

3680
02:04:08,390 --> 02:04:05,840
know of for the last couple of years if

3681
02:04:10,709 --> 02:04:08,400
you've opened up a restaurant and

3682
02:04:12,149 --> 02:04:10,719
recently in the last and again i i've

3683
02:04:13,030 --> 02:04:12,159
worked with restaurants for a long time

3684
02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:13,040
i've

3685
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:16,320
one of my favorite clients who um they

3686
02:04:20,470 --> 02:04:18,320
actually catered my wedding uh i'm all

3687
02:04:21,830 --> 02:04:20,480
successful did all the branding helped

3688
02:04:23,830 --> 02:04:21,840
with the interior did like did the

3689
02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:23,840
designs for everything and then i became

3690
02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:25,920
a regular patron and they've been like

3691
02:04:28,709 --> 02:04:27,199
it's going in five years they're they're

3692
02:04:29,990 --> 02:04:28,719
sustainable because they understand that

3693
02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:30,000
you have to differentiate yourself in a

3694
02:04:33,589 --> 02:04:31,760
market and also i gave them a really

3695
02:04:35,189 --> 02:04:33,599
good marketing plan and i analyzed

3696
02:04:37,750 --> 02:04:35,199
everybody took it every single threat

3697
02:04:38,790 --> 02:04:37,760
into account now if you are opening a

3698
02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:38,800
restaurant

3699
02:04:43,990 --> 02:04:40,960
and in your business plan

3700
02:04:45,669 --> 02:04:44,000
you do not have increasing minimum wage

3701
02:04:47,910 --> 02:04:45,679
and you have to do a worst case scenario

3702
02:04:49,830 --> 02:04:47,920
here like not not a best people want to

3703
02:04:51,750 --> 02:04:49,840
think the best hope isn't a goddamn

3704
02:04:53,189 --> 02:04:51,760
strategy i'm sorry it isn't no it's not

3705
02:04:56,870 --> 02:04:53,199
a strategy

3706
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:56,880
an application of strategy so if you're

3707
02:05:00,870 --> 02:04:59,599
saying well okay well the the the 15 an

3708
02:05:02,470 --> 02:05:00,880
hour is going up and we're gonna look

3709
02:05:05,189 --> 02:05:02,480
you know our dollar like our doors are

3710
02:05:07,589 --> 02:05:05,199
gonna close okay so you didn't take this

3711
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:07,599
into account your swot analysis for for

3712
02:05:10,550 --> 02:05:09,360
your for your market you know your your

3713
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:10,560
market report or at least your market

3714
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:12,159
analysis for your business plan which

3715
02:05:16,870 --> 02:05:14,800
essentially means you were

3716
02:05:18,629 --> 02:05:16,880
negligent in your

3717
02:05:20,070 --> 02:05:18,639
you know in your ability to to plan your

3718
02:05:22,870 --> 02:05:20,080
business and you spent all this money

3719
02:05:24,790 --> 02:05:22,880
and all of this you know all of this um

3720
02:05:25,910 --> 02:05:24,800
you know all this [\h__\h] and you you're

3721
02:05:27,990 --> 02:05:25,920
like now you're up shits creek because

3722
02:05:29,830 --> 02:05:28,000
you didn't have a contingency for it and

3723
02:05:31,589 --> 02:05:29,840
now your your your your profits which

3724
02:05:34,070 --> 02:05:31,599
were already thin in an industry that

3725
02:05:36,310 --> 02:05:34,080
already underpays its staff and expects

3726
02:05:37,910 --> 02:05:36,320
customers to subsidize because you don't

3727
02:05:39,510 --> 02:05:37,920
want to pay living wage because your

3728
02:05:42,950 --> 02:05:39,520
profits are already you know close to

3729
02:05:44,149 --> 02:05:42,960
nothing um and and you know

3730
02:05:45,750 --> 02:05:44,159
you know you're

3731
02:05:46,709 --> 02:05:45,760
like you're like maybe you shouldn't be

3732
02:05:49,109 --> 02:05:46,719
in business

3733
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:49,119
like if capitalism and entrepreneurs and

3734
02:05:52,629 --> 02:05:50,800
i'm an entrepreneur

3735
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:52,639
i believe one thing it doesn't matter

3736
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:55,679
what happens outside of your business

3737
02:06:01,109 --> 02:05:59,760
anything you say is an excuse except for

3738
02:06:02,470 --> 02:06:01,119
i should have worked harder i should

3739
02:06:04,229 --> 02:06:02,480
have looked at this i should have seen

3740
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:04,239
this i should have planned better i

3741
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:06,320
should have hired better anything it's

3742
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:07,679
your responsibility the government

3743
02:06:11,270 --> 02:06:09,119
doesn't run your business

3744
02:06:13,030 --> 02:06:11,280
you run your business well and the other

3745
02:06:15,430 --> 02:06:13,040
thing that nobody seems to take into

3746
02:06:18,149 --> 02:06:15,440
account okay if the minimum wage goes up

3747
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:18,159
to 15 an hour what's the other yes you

3748
02:06:21,109 --> 02:06:19,599
know you have to pay more wages what's

3749
02:06:23,350 --> 02:06:21,119
the other thing that happens

3750
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:23,360
that all the people who are out there

3751
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:25,840
making on minimum wage jobs all of a

3752
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:28,000
sudden have a lot more money to spend

3753
02:06:31,189 --> 02:06:29,599
and that means they might

3754
02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:31,199
shudder the thought

3755
02:06:35,910 --> 02:06:33,760
actually go out to dinner more often

3756
02:06:38,149 --> 02:06:35,920
yeah or pay their bills you see that's

3757
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:38,159
that's yeah exactly this is the thing

3758
02:06:41,189 --> 02:06:40,079
the flip side of the of a minimum wage

3759
02:06:42,149 --> 02:06:41,199
increase is

3760
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:42,159
you know

3761
02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:44,880
i i do not henry ford the the automobile

3762
02:06:49,109 --> 02:06:46,880
magnate was you know i'm sure he was a

3763
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:49,119
nasty man in many ways but he had one

3764
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:51,440
very very important insight which is

3765
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:54,239
that if you don't pay your employees

3766
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:56,079
enough to allow them to buy your product

3767
02:07:01,510 --> 02:06:59,119
you're doing it wrong and so he boosted

3768
02:07:02,870 --> 02:07:01,520
his his employees wages way above

3769
02:07:05,270 --> 02:07:02,880
prevailing standards so that they could

3770
02:07:06,950 --> 02:07:05,280
afford to buy his cars and that's why

3771
02:07:09,030 --> 02:07:06,960
ford motor company became you know in

3772
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:09,040
its time the largest car car company in

3773
02:07:13,030 --> 02:07:10,079
the world

3774
02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:13,040
because he understood that

3775
02:07:17,990 --> 02:07:16,000
basically a consumer economy cannot

3776
02:07:19,589 --> 02:07:18,000
survive if the consumers have no money

3777
02:07:21,350 --> 02:07:19,599
to spend

3778
02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:21,360
when the rich people have all the money

3779
02:07:24,629 --> 02:07:23,360
like if the rich people

3780
02:07:25,910 --> 02:07:24,639
yeah if the rich people have all the

3781
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:25,920
money you have a surplus of money

3782
02:07:28,629 --> 02:07:27,280
available for investment which drives

3783
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:28,639
down interest rates so that you don't

3784
02:07:32,390 --> 02:07:30,560
get any return on investment and you

3785
02:07:33,830 --> 02:07:32,400
have a defeat you have a deficit of

3786
02:07:35,830 --> 02:07:33,840
money available for consumption which

3787
02:07:38,149 --> 02:07:35,840
means which means the overall production

3788
02:07:39,189 --> 02:07:38,159
crisis all you have to do is increase

3789
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:39,199
wages

3790
02:07:42,229 --> 02:07:40,560
and

3791
02:07:43,830 --> 02:07:42,239
basically make sure that more of the

3792
02:07:46,790 --> 02:07:43,840
money in circulation ends up in the

3793
02:07:48,149 --> 02:07:46,800
pockets of consumers which means not the

3794
02:07:49,430 --> 02:07:48,159
rich because when the rich get money

3795
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:49,440
they invest it when the poor get money

3796
02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:51,280
they spend it that's why you want lots

3797
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:53,199
of money in the hands of the poor

3798
02:07:57,030 --> 02:07:54,800
in a situation like this one where we

3799
02:07:59,830 --> 02:07:57,040
have an investment surplus and a

3800
02:08:01,910 --> 02:07:59,840
consumption deficit now okay

3801
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:01,920
well yeah i know this is simple yeah and

3802
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:03,440
i i don't know totally simple well

3803
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:05,199
things like kevin and chad is saying say

3804
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:06,880
hello to automation

3805
02:08:11,109 --> 02:08:09,520
i'll make one and yes it's a concern and

3806
02:08:14,550 --> 02:08:11,119
at some point like the biggest things

3807
02:08:15,990 --> 02:08:14,560
for automation are fast food and and um

3808
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:16,000
transportation

3809
02:08:22,470 --> 02:08:19,840
big big wheeler

3810
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,480
until you can actually have a skynet

3811
02:08:27,270 --> 02:08:24,480
level intelligence behind the wheel of

3812
02:08:28,790 --> 02:08:27,280
an eight you know a a a big rig it's not

3813
02:08:31,270 --> 02:08:28,800
going to because you need somebody who's

3814
02:08:33,430 --> 02:08:31,280
going to inspect that car that that that

3815
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:33,440
motor vehicle at every single juncture

3816
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,800
that it's supposed to be to ensure that

3817
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:36,400
it's optimal

3818
02:08:40,470 --> 02:08:38,880
operating capacity to go from the long

3819
02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,480
distances it does the only person who

3820
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:42,480
can do that unless until you get

3821
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:44,800
somebody who can actively make decisions

3822
02:08:48,629 --> 02:08:47,199
as fast and a human can you're not going

3823
02:08:50,390 --> 02:08:48,639
it won't happen you're going to still

3824
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:50,400
have somebody maybe pay them less but

3825
02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:51,520
they're still going to be a hot behind

3826
02:08:56,069 --> 02:08:53,520
the wheel and fast food mcdonald's

3827
02:08:57,510 --> 02:08:56,079
actually hired more people after

3828
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,520
their automation and you know i'm sorry

3829
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:59,520
i've been to mcdonald's with with the

3830
02:09:02,550 --> 02:09:01,199
automated tellers

3831
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:02,560
half the time they don't work and it

3832
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:04,880
actually takes longer to order from

3833
02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:06,400
those things than it does to wait in

3834
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:09,760
line in order from the person directly

3835
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:11,679
now here's the other thing

3836
02:09:14,950 --> 02:09:13,280
automation

3837
02:09:17,189 --> 02:09:14,960
looks really profitable but that's

3838
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:17,199
because there is a galaxy of perverse

3839
02:09:21,030 --> 02:09:18,560
incentives

3840
02:09:21,910 --> 02:09:21,040
in the economy is primarily in the tax

3841
02:09:24,629 --> 02:09:21,920
codes

3842
02:09:26,470 --> 02:09:24,639
that that um subsidize automation and

3843
02:09:28,149 --> 02:09:26,480
penalize employing people i don't know

3844
02:09:29,589 --> 02:09:28,159
how things work in canada but here in

3845
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:29,599
the united states if you want to hire

3846
02:09:32,470 --> 02:09:30,800
somebody you don't just have to pay

3847
02:09:33,990 --> 02:09:32,480
their salary you have to pay a whole

3848
02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:34,000
bunch of money into social security this

3849
02:09:36,870 --> 02:09:35,760
is if you're an employer okay

3850
02:09:37,830 --> 02:09:36,880
you're you know you've got a business

3851
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,840
you've got a restaurant let's say you

3852
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:39,360
want to hire somebody you have to pay

3853
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:41,119
their their wages okay that's fine you

3854
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:42,239
also have to pay into the social

3855
02:09:45,750 --> 02:09:44,000
security you have to pay workman's comp

3856
02:09:48,310 --> 02:09:45,760
you all of these additional fees that

3857
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:48,320
are piled on to the simple cost of

3858
02:09:52,470 --> 02:09:50,960
hiring a worker which makes it less

3859
02:09:53,510 --> 02:09:52,480
economically advantageous to hire

3860
02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:53,520
somebody on the other hand if you

3861
02:09:58,629 --> 02:09:54,719
automate

3862
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:58,639
you can depreciate the automation

3863
02:10:01,990 --> 02:10:00,079
so it's actually you're actually getting

3864
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:02,000
subsidized for automation and penalized

3865
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:04,320
for hiring people if you remove those

3866
02:10:08,709 --> 02:10:07,040
perverse incentives

3867
02:10:10,629 --> 02:10:08,719
okay

3868
02:10:12,629 --> 02:10:10,639
so that the input the only cost to the

3869
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:12,639
employer for hiring somebody is the is

3870
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:14,320
the wages that he paid that he or she

3871
02:10:16,069 --> 02:10:15,280
has to pay

3872
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:16,079
them

3873
02:10:19,109 --> 02:10:17,920
then you're going to see a lot less

3874
02:10:21,430 --> 02:10:19,119
automation because it doesn't make as

3875
02:10:23,830 --> 02:10:21,440
much economic sense human beings are

3876
02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:23,840
still in mo for most business-related

3877
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:25,679
applications superior because they're

3878
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:27,040
much more flexible and they could do

3879
02:10:31,189 --> 02:10:29,440
things like make snap judgments work

3880
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:31,199
around problems you don't have to

3881
02:10:35,270 --> 02:10:33,040
completely reprogram them or you know

3882
02:10:36,550 --> 02:10:35,280
every time some minor little thing goes

3883
02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:36,560
wrong

3884
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:40,079
and you know the the this cult

3885
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:42,000
of automation the notion that automation

3886
02:10:45,030 --> 02:10:43,440
always makes economic sense it's a

3887
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:45,040
superstition

3888
02:10:50,870 --> 02:10:48,880
mythology of perpetual progress and

3889
02:10:53,189 --> 02:10:50,880
it it has nothing to do with the real

3890
02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:53,199
world and i could very easily see us

3891
02:10:56,310 --> 02:10:54,719
ending up with a society where all the

3892
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:56,320
big corporations have followed that

3893
02:11:00,149 --> 02:10:57,760
blindly

3894
02:11:01,669 --> 02:11:00,159
into dysfunctional bankruptcy because

3895
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:01,679
everything's automated and none of it

3896
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:03,360
works and nobody uses it and so you go

3897
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:05,920
under the table to you know to um with

3898
02:11:10,470 --> 02:11:08,239
some kind of little bitty business

3899
02:11:13,109 --> 02:11:10,480
that actually has people

3900
02:11:15,669 --> 02:11:13,119
okay and can actually meet your needs

3901
02:11:17,750 --> 02:11:15,679
now i i know that that um

3902
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:17,760
there is at least in going back to tali

3903
02:11:21,510 --> 02:11:20,159
here and chat who stated that uh uh that

3904
02:11:23,030 --> 02:11:21,520
for there was apparently a hoax about

3905
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:23,040
four that had given up the protocols

3906
02:11:25,830 --> 02:11:24,880
with the model t but they may have been

3907
02:11:26,629 --> 02:11:25,840
a hoax

3908
02:11:28,310 --> 02:11:26,639
um

3909
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:28,320
are you aware of anything regarding that

3910
02:11:32,790 --> 02:11:30,000
oh no the thing is no the thing is henry

3911
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:32,800
ford was another semite okay

3912
02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:34,880
he was lots of people are probably you

3913
02:11:39,589 --> 02:11:37,440
know most human beings are problematic

3914
02:11:41,189 --> 02:11:39,599
most human beings do at least something

3915
02:11:43,510 --> 02:11:41,199
somewhere in their lives that's pretty

3916
02:11:45,589 --> 02:11:43,520
raunchy or pretty horrible or what have

3917
02:11:47,189 --> 02:11:45,599
you and if you want to say well this

3918
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:47,199
person did that horrible thing therefore

3919
02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:48,960
we're going to ignore everything else

3920
02:11:52,790 --> 02:11:50,960
that they ever did or said that's very

3921
02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:52,800
comforting if you want to kind of bring

3922
02:11:56,229 --> 02:11:54,320
yourself on your own state of

3923
02:11:57,830 --> 02:11:56,239
self-righteous virtue but you know

3924
02:11:59,430 --> 02:11:57,840
i'm sure 100 years from now people will

3925
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:59,440
look at something you didn't say he was

3926
02:12:03,030 --> 02:12:01,119
evil therefore we should we should hate

3927
02:12:04,390 --> 02:12:03,040
him for the rest of eternity that's

3928
02:12:07,430 --> 02:12:04,400
really stupid this is what i call

3929
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:07,440
newspeak thinking do you remember 1984

3930
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:08,800
where they had this language called

3931
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:10,320
newspeak where

3932
02:12:15,830 --> 02:12:13,920
there was good and ungood

3933
02:12:17,510 --> 02:12:15,840
those were the only terms of approval

3934
02:12:18,550 --> 02:12:17,520
and disapproval they had all the other

3935
02:12:20,390 --> 02:12:18,560
every other

3936
02:12:22,629 --> 02:12:20,400
shade of meaning was evaporated good and

3937
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:22,639
ungood and that was by the way good

3938
02:12:27,109 --> 02:12:24,000
means like

3939
02:12:28,470 --> 02:12:27,119
politically compliant it means um all

3940
02:12:30,629 --> 02:12:28,480
the different things it's all narrowed

3941
02:12:32,390 --> 02:12:30,639
down so someone who is good cannot be

3942
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:32,400
ungood someone who is ungood cannot be

3943
02:12:36,149 --> 02:12:34,159
good sure you can point to the fact that

3944
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:36,159
henry ford was anti-semite

3945
02:12:39,669 --> 02:12:37,679
and that he had various he had certain

3946
02:12:42,069 --> 02:12:39,679
other nasty habits and

3947
02:12:44,069 --> 02:12:42,079
but does that mean that he was wrong to

3948
02:12:45,990 --> 02:12:44,079
say that you should pay your employers

3949
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:46,000
your employees a living wage

3950
02:12:49,510 --> 02:12:47,760
no it does not

3951
02:12:51,270 --> 02:12:49,520
this is another of the reasons why i say

3952
02:12:53,030 --> 02:12:51,280
that people are really dumb these days

3953
02:12:54,550 --> 02:12:53,040
because that kind of thought that kind

3954
02:12:56,390 --> 02:12:54,560
of well here's something he did wrong

3955
02:12:58,229 --> 02:12:56,400
therefore we should we should all um

3956
02:13:00,390 --> 02:12:58,239
give him his two minutes hate and then

3957
02:13:02,390 --> 02:13:00,400
ignore him that kind of thinking would

3958
02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:02,400
not have passed muster for five seconds

3959
02:13:05,589 --> 02:13:03,920
in 1858

3960
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:05,599
and i want to know why we've become so

3961
02:13:08,470 --> 02:13:07,040
stupid these days

3962
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:08,480
that people can say well this person did

3963
02:13:17,109 --> 02:13:13,990
and that's somehow an argument

3964
02:13:18,950 --> 02:13:17,119
it's it's a

3965
02:13:20,790 --> 02:13:18,960
it's an entire cycle of

3966
02:13:22,390 --> 02:13:20,800
i i think it's honestly our sister our

3967
02:13:23,910 --> 02:13:22,400
society as a whole

3968
02:13:30,870 --> 02:13:23,920
is

3969
02:13:32,709 --> 02:13:30,880
and you know there's the

3970
02:13:35,189 --> 02:13:32,719
there's this entire um

3971
02:13:35,910 --> 02:13:35,199
trying to shift blame back and forth

3972
02:13:37,430 --> 02:13:35,920
and

3973
02:13:39,430 --> 02:13:37,440
it's it's like okay well

3974
02:13:41,589 --> 02:13:39,440
your bad

3975
02:13:43,750 --> 02:13:41,599
out does my good

3976
02:13:46,229 --> 02:13:43,760
and there's what is it the adage the the

3977
02:13:47,830 --> 02:13:46,239
narcissist prayer uh you know it didn't

3978
02:13:50,069 --> 02:13:47,840
happen and if it did it wasn't that bad

3979
02:13:52,310 --> 02:13:50,079
if it was then it's not a big deal if if

3980
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:52,320
it is it's that's not my fault and if it

3981
02:13:55,669 --> 02:13:54,320
was i didn't mean it and if i did you

3982
02:13:57,510 --> 02:13:55,679
deserved it

3983
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:57,520
um yeah that's essentially it and that's

3984
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:59,119
pretty much what's being played out in

3985
02:14:03,189 --> 02:14:01,040
in the news it's like okay so i think

3986
02:14:05,350 --> 02:14:03,199
yeah yeah like did you do you know the

3987
02:14:07,669 --> 02:14:05,360
first part well you don't have a tv

3988
02:14:09,109 --> 02:14:07,679
so i don't have a tv okay

3989
02:14:11,030 --> 02:14:09,119
do you have you heard the whole uh

3990
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:11,040
griffin thing how do how do you think

3991
02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:12,320
i'm able to write all these books and

3992
02:14:15,669 --> 02:14:13,920
get all these other things done and play

3993
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,679
a musical instrument and have a

3994
02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,119
successful marriage and all the other

3995
02:14:21,910 --> 02:14:19,199
things i do with my time i don't flush

3996
02:14:23,430 --> 02:14:21,920
my life away staring at a picture tube

3997
02:14:25,189 --> 02:14:23,440
it's really that simple

3998
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:25,199
but i'm i'm looking at three right now

3999
02:14:27,990 --> 02:14:26,239
and if i didn't have them i wouldn't

4000
02:14:29,109 --> 02:14:28,000
have the show but i can tell you if i

4001
02:14:30,870 --> 02:14:29,119
didn't have them i wouldn't be able to

4002
02:14:32,390 --> 02:14:30,880
work as fast as i do at the same time i

4003
02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:32,400
wouldn't

4004
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:33,520
read it

4005
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:36,159
and and the the thing is you right now

4006
02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:37,520
you're looking into screens because

4007
02:14:42,069 --> 02:14:39,440
that's part of what you do okay yeah i

4008
02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:42,079
write i write on a computer because

4009
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:44,239
that's publishers want

4010
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:45,760
publishers no longer take paper

4011
02:14:49,510 --> 02:14:47,520
manuscripts okay you've got to submit

4012
02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:49,520
electronically okay i write a computer

4013
02:14:52,790 --> 02:14:50,880
and then when i'm finished i turn it off

4014
02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,800
and i go to something else i know so

4015
02:14:55,990 --> 02:14:54,560
many people who just sit there staring

4016
02:14:58,550 --> 02:14:56,000
at the screen

4017
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:58,560
for hours watching television drool

4018
02:15:01,430 --> 02:15:00,400
puddles in their laps

4019
02:15:02,629 --> 02:15:01,440
you know maybe that's the thing

4020
02:15:04,390 --> 02:15:02,639
something we need to look into when we

4021
02:15:06,629 --> 02:15:04,400
wonder why people are so clueless these

4022
02:15:08,229 --> 02:15:06,639
days

4023
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:08,239
okay our art did you hear about this

4024
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:10,400
whole kathy griffith um or katie

4025
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:11,920
griffith i forget her name she's she's a

4026
02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:14,560
dealer celebrity she got fired from cnn

4027
02:15:18,310 --> 02:15:15,679
and

4028
02:15:19,510 --> 02:15:18,320
she did a joke or i think it was a joke

4029
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:19,520
i never actually seen it myself i've

4030
02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:21,280
seen pictures but i don't understand the

4031
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:23,679
whole context but the situation is she

4032
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:25,119
was in front of a screen with white

4033
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:26,320
behind her and essentially she was

4034
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:27,920
holding a

4035
02:15:31,750 --> 02:15:29,840
fake severed head of donald trump and it

4036
02:15:34,069 --> 02:15:31,760
was like all bloody and you know it was

4037
02:15:35,430 --> 02:15:34,079
the the it looked like somebody had cut

4038
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:35,440
off donald trump's head

4039
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:37,360
which i wouldn't

4040
02:15:40,709 --> 02:15:39,280
yeah i mean i might like the guy but you

4041
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:40,719
know at the same time he's got a family

4042
02:15:44,310 --> 02:15:43,360
he's got a he's got kids and

4043
02:15:46,229 --> 02:15:44,320
you don't you don't want to you don't

4044
02:15:48,229 --> 02:15:46,239
want harm to come to anybody and his kid

4045
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:48,239
was watching it and he thought it was

4046
02:15:51,589 --> 02:15:50,400
his dad and he he free tried out i'm

4047
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:51,599
like

4048
02:16:01,430 --> 02:16:00,560
what has he done and he's freaking out

4049
02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:01,440
and

4050
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:03,360
people are going absolutely wild they

4051
02:16:06,550 --> 02:16:04,560
don't look at like some people who were

4052
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:06,560
smart looked at saying okay well his son

4053
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:08,000
actually saw that

4054
02:16:12,709 --> 02:16:10,000
and that's bad and that's why it's out

4055
02:16:14,470 --> 02:16:12,719
of taste because you took a public

4056
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:14,480
figure and his family was directly

4057
02:16:17,750 --> 02:16:15,840
affected and possibly traumatized

4058
02:16:18,629 --> 02:16:17,760
because you know because of it and

4059
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:18,639
that's

4060
02:16:25,830 --> 02:16:22,880
to home at the same time you also have

4061
02:16:28,790 --> 02:16:25,840
some you know some some states where

4062
02:16:30,830 --> 02:16:28,800
obama had effigies hung up you know like

4063
02:16:33,589 --> 02:16:30,840
it like it was the the early

4064
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:33,599
1900s you know it's it's like i know you

4065
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:34,559
can't

4066
02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:38,880
if you're if you're going to

4067
02:16:44,629 --> 02:16:41,280
condemn one thing you have to condemn

4068
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,639
both because both across the board yeah

4069
02:16:48,870 --> 02:16:47,120
but but these days that's

4070
02:16:50,469 --> 02:16:48,880
one of the things that's going on down

4071
02:16:51,509 --> 02:16:50,479
on the side of the border

4072
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:51,519
um

4073
02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,359
and it's a very spooky thing if you know

4074
02:16:58,389 --> 02:16:55,840
your way around history the kind of

4075
02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:58,399
blind rage

4076
02:17:03,110 --> 02:17:00,080
that's being poured by people on both

4077
02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:03,120
sides of the political spectrum

4078
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:05,359
towards their enemies the only time i

4079
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:06,960
can think of in american history we've

4080
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:09,359
had that again is the run-up to 1861

4081
02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:12,080
which is the beginning of our civil war

4082
02:17:16,950 --> 02:17:14,800
well i called it it was about it was

4083
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:16,960
what it was

4084
02:17:21,990 --> 02:17:20,080
something like a dozen years ago

4085
02:17:24,309 --> 02:17:22,000
i was actually in

4086
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:24,319
london ontario at the um i think i think

4087
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:25,599
it was london someplace right around

4088
02:17:30,150 --> 02:17:28,399
there um at a college doing a talk

4089
02:17:31,750 --> 02:17:30,160
and people were talking about the united

4090
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,760
states and so on have to hold it you

4091
02:17:35,589 --> 02:17:33,840
know what you don't realize is that we

4092
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:35,599
are that you know the united states is

4093
02:17:38,790 --> 02:17:37,200
moving toward a civil war people stare

4094
02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:38,800
at me as though you know

4095
02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:41,120
canadian school kids or college students

4096
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:42,240
stared at me as though i had suddenly

4097
02:17:45,429 --> 02:17:43,359
sprouted a second hit it was

4098
02:17:46,870 --> 02:17:45,439
incomprehensible to them

4099
02:17:50,230 --> 02:17:46,880
the united states is a very violent

4100
02:17:53,589 --> 02:17:50,240
society and it's a society under extreme

4101
02:17:55,830 --> 02:17:53,599
strain right now yup just extreme strain

4102
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:55,840
there's enormous tension enormous

4103
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:58,240
political tension enormous economic

4104
02:18:01,669 --> 02:17:59,200
tension

4105
02:18:03,110 --> 02:18:01,679
enormous suffering and it's moving

4106
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:03,120
toward an explosion

4107
02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:05,920
and so i hope that all our canadian

4108
02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:09,120
listeners are ready to deal with

4109
02:18:12,150 --> 02:18:10,880
possibly having a failed state on their

4110
02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:12,160
southern border in the near future i

4111
02:18:14,870 --> 02:18:13,760
hope all of our all of our american

4112
02:18:16,309 --> 02:18:14,880
listeners

4113
02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:16,319
are getting ready to hit the ground well

4114
02:18:20,230 --> 02:18:17,760
first thing and this isn't just as a as

4115
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:20,240
a fellow freemason uh but because if you

4116
02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:21,439
do come here i want you to teach me how

4117
02:18:25,669 --> 02:18:23,040
to grow a beard that big my house is

4118
02:18:27,030 --> 02:18:25,679
always open i got a couch it's it's it's

4119
02:18:29,030 --> 02:18:27,040
fairly comfortable my cat will try and

4120
02:18:30,389 --> 02:18:29,040
sleep in your head and maybe my dog will

4121
02:18:32,469 --> 02:18:30,399
bug you for treats all the time but it's

4122
02:18:35,110 --> 02:18:32,479
fairly comfortable here except in uh

4123
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:35,120
thank you nobody appreciate that if if i

4124
02:18:39,429 --> 02:18:37,760
if i ever end up as a refugee i will i

4125
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:39,439
will keep that room just in mind just

4126
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:40,880
watch out because even here in ottawa

4127
02:18:45,910 --> 02:18:43,439
between like november and march you're

4128
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:45,920
like yeah we get yeah minus 40 degrees

4129
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:49,200
celsius it's pretty shitty um

4130
02:18:58,709 --> 02:18:56,790
i was talking to fellow podcasters we

4131
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:58,719
had a group that i had to step away from

4132
02:19:04,830 --> 02:19:01,599
due to the fact that i got a kid coming

4133
02:19:07,589 --> 02:19:04,840
which is taking all my time

4134
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:07,599
um just wait until you just wait until

4135
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:08,719
he's out

4136
02:19:12,070 --> 02:19:10,080
you think you're taking all your time

4137
02:19:14,709 --> 02:19:12,080
now you have kids i'm calling you for

4138
02:19:16,469 --> 02:19:14,719
advice no okay no but i'm i'm i'm

4139
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:16,479
basically i'm bathing with everybody i

4140
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:19,439
know who's had kids no yeah you you you

4141
02:19:23,830 --> 02:19:21,760
will wonder what time is oh god for the

4142
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:23,840
first couple of years i i i went back to

4143
02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:26,559
college 27 trust me it's yeah i didn't

4144
02:19:29,750 --> 02:19:28,080
see it yeah

4145
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:29,760
but i i looked at them and there they

4146
02:19:32,870 --> 02:19:30,960
all thought i was crazy i'm like okay

4147
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,880
i'm looking at the situation after this

4148
02:19:36,230 --> 02:19:34,399
entire rush of things started coming out

4149
02:19:38,549 --> 02:19:36,240
i'm like okay so you've got an entire

4150
02:19:39,830 --> 02:19:38,559
like you've got an entire polarized and

4151
02:19:41,830 --> 02:19:39,840
again you also have to understand this

4152
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,840
is this is an announcement that that i'm

4153
02:19:45,429 --> 02:19:43,439
gonna make on the show that probably no

4154
02:19:46,870 --> 02:19:45,439
one will hear immediately live but tens

4155
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:46,880
of thousands of people will hear in you

4156
02:19:50,070 --> 02:19:48,000
know a couple of weeks once it actually

4157
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:50,080
gets downloaded and disseminated i live

4158
02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:52,479
in ottawa and i have

4159
02:19:58,309 --> 02:19:54,479
again not because i'm in the deep state

4160
02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:58,319
but i have friends who are

4161
02:20:00,870 --> 02:20:00,000
let's say

4162
02:20:02,389 --> 02:20:00,880
um

4163
02:20:03,990 --> 02:20:02,399
they used to make a very good russian

4164
02:20:06,070 --> 02:20:04,000
accent yeah

4165
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:06,080
um and coming from ottawa there you know

4166
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:07,680
may have been part of may or may not

4167
02:20:10,469 --> 02:20:09,600
have been part of some organizations

4168
02:20:20,870 --> 02:20:10,479
that

4169
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:23,590
again swear to god this is this is

4170
02:20:28,309 --> 02:20:26,880
like uh on on the head of my unborn

4171
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:28,319
child

4172
02:20:31,990 --> 02:20:30,800
i asked him this question and again i

4173
02:20:33,270 --> 02:20:32,000
don't ask them because they said it's

4174
02:20:34,870 --> 02:20:33,280
like can you tell me any stories he just

4175
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:34,880
looks at me going and this is the most

4176
02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:36,000
nicest

4177
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:39,040
gentle kindest most assuming man you've

4178
02:20:41,830 --> 02:20:40,000
ever met in your entire life he's

4179
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:41,840
retired and he looks at me going just

4180
02:20:43,830 --> 02:20:42,800
you know you could just see this look at

4181
02:20:45,990 --> 02:20:43,840
his eyes going no i can't tell you

4182
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:46,000
anything and i left it at that

4183
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,600
um so

4184
02:20:50,870 --> 02:20:49,600
and this man i trust and i trust

4185
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:50,880
implicitly and i didn't ask him any

4186
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:52,640
specifics but i said in your experience

4187
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:54,880
and he worked in certain fields during

4188
02:20:59,750 --> 02:20:56,880
the height of the cold war

4189
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,760
as as doing what he was doing

4190
02:21:02,309 --> 02:21:01,120
and i looked him and said you have a lot

4191
02:21:03,990 --> 02:21:02,319
of experience with this and he just

4192
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:04,000
looked at me and said i may didn't

4193
02:21:07,270 --> 02:21:05,280
confirm or deny

4194
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:07,280
i said and i asked him i asked him flat

4195
02:21:10,630 --> 02:21:09,120
out in your experience knowing the

4196
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:10,640
russian kgb

4197
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:12,160
the way that they acted the way that the

4198
02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,840
you know compromise does and i'm

4199
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:15,600
croatian and the reason that i may freak

4200
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:17,760
out about the whole trump thing uh my my

4201
02:21:21,830 --> 02:21:20,720
parents are at least my my father is uh

4202
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:21,840
you know he's an immigrant from this

4203
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:23,359
country from croatia during the height

4204
02:21:28,469 --> 02:21:26,160
of communist yugoslavia where senior

4205
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:28,479
croatian speaking croatian and singing

4206
02:21:32,790 --> 02:21:30,880
nationalists to croatian songs um would

4207
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:32,800
make you disappear

4208
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:35,120
and he essentially escaped because at

4209
02:21:38,389 --> 02:21:36,800
one point he was out working and the

4210
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:38,399
secret police came because well my dad

4211
02:21:41,670 --> 02:21:40,319
was like me he's a [\h__\h] disturber and i

4212
02:21:43,270 --> 02:21:41,680
love him to death because he taught me

4213
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:43,280
not to be able to take [\h__\h] and i i

4214
02:21:45,510 --> 02:21:44,399
always looked down at him when i was a

4215
02:21:47,750 --> 02:21:45,520
kid and thought he wasn't cool and i

4216
02:21:49,349 --> 02:21:47,760
realized well well [\h__\h] he actually came

4217
02:21:50,870 --> 02:21:49,359
to this country because

4218
02:21:52,150 --> 02:21:50,880
at some point the secret police came for

4219
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:52,160
him and said well we're gonna we're like

4220
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:53,600
we're gonna you know take you out and

4221
02:21:56,309 --> 02:21:54,640
you put you in jail or you would

4222
02:21:58,389 --> 02:21:56,319
disappear and i if that had happened i

4223
02:21:59,429 --> 02:21:58,399
wouldn't have been here uh

4224
02:22:00,870 --> 02:21:59,439
my you know

4225
02:22:02,469 --> 02:22:00,880
he came back mom said you gotta get the

4226
02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:02,479
[\h__\h] out of here because like i should

4227
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:03,920
say his mom said you gotta get the [\h__\h]

4228
02:22:06,870 --> 02:22:05,359
out of here because they're they're

4229
02:22:08,389 --> 02:22:06,880
gonna come and get you and i don't know

4230
02:22:09,270 --> 02:22:08,399
what'll happen to you after that

4231
02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:09,280
so

4232
02:22:12,550 --> 02:22:10,960
he he got out

4233
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:12,560
got out of the country

4234
02:22:16,870 --> 02:22:15,120
came to canada and got involved with the

4235
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:16,880
the people who actually wanted croatia

4236
02:22:21,030 --> 02:22:19,359
to be a free country because uh even

4237
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:21,040
though it was a [\h__\h] up country during

4238
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:22,800
world war ii and there's a lot of bad

4239
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:23,840
[\h__\h] that happened in that part of the

4240
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:25,600
world at the end of the day the people

4241
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:28,319
who were in the 60s and hippian free and

4242
02:22:30,710 --> 02:22:29,439
they wanted to

4243
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:30,720
be able to speak croatian say they were

4244
02:22:34,550 --> 02:22:33,359
croatian all that [\h__\h] um

4245
02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:34,560
there's a lot of [\h__\h] that i heard about

4246
02:22:38,070 --> 02:22:35,920
after that and i understand how the

4247
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:38,080
secret police in slavic countries works

4248
02:22:42,309 --> 02:22:40,240
so when it comes to

4249
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:42,319
really devious stuff happening and a lot

4250
02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:44,080
of a lot of backstabbing a lot of like a

4251
02:22:47,349 --> 02:22:45,680
lot of espionage in terms of like james

4252
02:22:49,270 --> 02:22:47,359
bond stuff maybe the gadgets aren't the

4253
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:49,280
same but in terms of the cloak and

4254
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:50,960
dagger it was

4255
02:22:56,150 --> 02:22:53,359
10 times 100 times worse than any james

4256
02:22:57,990 --> 02:22:56,160
bond movie and nobody ever knows so so

4257
02:22:59,590 --> 02:22:58,000
do you so you asked so you asked this

4258
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:59,600
guy who's voting for him

4259
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:01,840
with russian equivalent

4260
02:23:05,030 --> 02:23:03,520
of [\h__\h] secret police yeah and i

4261
02:23:06,870 --> 02:23:05,040
looked at it and said okay so in your

4262
02:23:08,550 --> 02:23:06,880
opinion from your expertise and knowing

4263
02:23:11,270 --> 02:23:08,560
he had he was very experienced i said

4264
02:23:16,070 --> 02:23:14,389
do you think donald trump was like do

4265
02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:16,080
you think he was complicit like do you

4266
02:23:19,510 --> 02:23:17,439
think he would he colluded and he looks

4267
02:23:22,870 --> 02:23:19,520
at me going just kind of looks down

4268
02:23:27,590 --> 02:23:24,150
yeah

4269
02:23:30,830 --> 02:23:27,600
and it's not going to end well

4270
02:23:33,990 --> 02:23:32,550
okay

4271
02:23:35,670 --> 02:23:34,000
and it's it you know

4272
02:23:36,550 --> 02:23:35,680
yeah so the

4273
02:23:41,830 --> 02:23:36,560
the

4274
02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:41,840
about russia

4275
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:44,160
most of what i see from the american

4276
02:23:47,590 --> 02:23:46,319
left right now is a desperate attempt to

4277
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:47,600
people to

4278
02:23:52,389 --> 02:23:50,160
to somehow evade the fact that hillary

4279
02:23:54,389 --> 02:23:52,399
clinton ran the most incompetent

4280
02:23:56,630 --> 02:23:54,399
political campaign i have seen in my

4281
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:56,640
lifetime and i remember presidential

4282
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,359
campaigns going back to hubert humphrey

4283
02:24:03,349 --> 02:24:01,520
she did a decimal

4284
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:03,359
she was making the decisions

4285
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:04,800
okay

4286
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:06,560
not only that she made all the same

4287
02:24:11,030 --> 02:24:08,560
mistakes in 2016 that she made running

4288
02:24:12,710 --> 02:24:11,040
against barack obama in 2008 so she was

4289
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:12,720
she was either unable or unwilling to

4290
02:24:16,950 --> 02:24:14,479
learn from her errors obama admitted to

4291
02:24:19,190 --> 02:24:16,960
doing cocaine and he still got elected

4292
02:24:20,790 --> 02:24:19,200
exactly and the thing and and donald

4293
02:24:23,910 --> 02:24:20,800
trump was donald trump and he still got

4294
02:24:25,590 --> 02:24:23,920
elected okay no she she's she's a

4295
02:24:27,110 --> 02:24:25,600
miserably bad campaigner and she's and

4296
02:24:29,830 --> 02:24:27,120
she's she simply

4297
02:24:32,230 --> 02:24:29,840
she did she ran an epically in the

4298
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:32,240
campaign and lost

4299
02:24:34,870 --> 02:24:33,760
but the democrats aren't willing to deal

4300
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:34,880
with that

4301
02:24:38,070 --> 02:24:36,240
and of course she's not only to know

4302
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:38,080
she's busy trying to find someone else

4303
02:24:40,710 --> 02:24:39,680
to blame

4304
02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:40,720
i mean it's gotten to the point that

4305
02:24:46,469 --> 02:24:41,600
even

4306
02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:46,479
miss clinton you're kind of avoiding

4307
02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:48,560
major issues here which that you lost

4308
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:50,640
and here are the decisions you made that

4309
02:24:56,230 --> 02:24:52,960
possibly you know

4310
02:24:58,870 --> 02:24:56,240
one of those things but at any rate um

4311
02:25:00,870 --> 02:24:58,880
whatever was actually going on wasn't

4312
02:25:01,750 --> 02:25:00,880
what's not actually going on

4313
02:25:03,990 --> 02:25:01,760
um

4314
02:25:06,469 --> 02:25:04,000
i don't know admin will ever know

4315
02:25:09,110 --> 02:25:06,479
it's become a complete

4316
02:25:11,349 --> 02:25:09,120
flustered cluck

4317
02:25:14,150 --> 02:25:11,359
he should he said she said um

4318
02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:14,160
disinformation from all sides

4319
02:25:16,630 --> 02:25:15,120
and

4320
02:25:18,389 --> 02:25:16,640
you know they're everyone will end up

4321
02:25:20,710 --> 02:25:18,399
believing the story that if it appeals

4322
02:25:22,230 --> 02:25:20,720
to their emotions well my my prediction

4323
02:25:23,830 --> 02:25:22,240
is my prediction is if

4324
02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:23,840
if he gets impeached and it's not going

4325
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:24,960
to happen like you know everyone's

4326
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:25,760
saying like always going to get

4327
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:26,960
impeached and all this information is

4328
02:25:31,429 --> 02:25:29,120
coming out we live we live in an age of

4329
02:25:34,230 --> 02:25:31,439
instantaneous information transmission

4330
02:25:35,750 --> 02:25:34,240
it's it is what caesar originally would

4331
02:25:36,870 --> 02:25:35,760
have loved which is to be in every

4332
02:25:37,990 --> 02:25:36,880
single home

4333
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:38,000
and to be able to see every single

4334
02:25:40,710 --> 02:25:39,359
person every single citizen to know

4335
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:40,720
what's going on we live in that world

4336
02:25:43,429 --> 02:25:41,680
now

4337
02:25:45,110 --> 02:25:43,439
um and they said it's like look into

4338
02:25:47,910 --> 02:25:45,120
windows well guess what windows is on

4339
02:25:49,750 --> 02:25:47,920
most systems and bill gates made it and

4340
02:25:51,270 --> 02:25:49,760
nsa has a backdoor into it apparently if

4341
02:25:53,670 --> 02:25:51,280
you believe some people oh yeah they can

4342
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:53,680
do crazy [\h__\h] with computers nowadays um

4343
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:55,200
all right the

4344
02:25:58,070 --> 02:25:57,120
my prediction was that if he's impeached

4345
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:58,080
which i said was probably going to

4346
02:26:03,030 --> 02:26:00,640
happen about 2019 because he's you know

4347
02:26:05,110 --> 02:26:03,040
like 2018 again as i said democratic

4348
02:26:06,630 --> 02:26:05,120
politicians they now they now have found

4349
02:26:07,830 --> 02:26:06,640
their balls for for whatever reason

4350
02:26:08,790 --> 02:26:07,840
you've got a couple of guys who found

4351
02:26:10,150 --> 02:26:08,800
their balls

4352
02:26:13,110 --> 02:26:10,160
and they're you know they're they're

4353
02:26:14,469 --> 02:26:13,120
putting up a very good show of of

4354
02:26:15,910 --> 02:26:14,479
you know like talking sternly the

4355
02:26:18,469 --> 02:26:15,920
republicans there are some that are like

4356
02:26:20,870 --> 02:26:18,479
very concerned deeply concerned

4357
02:26:23,349 --> 02:26:20,880
super concerned there's maybe one holy

4358
02:26:25,510 --> 02:26:23,359
[\h__\h] this is crazy and then there the

4359
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:25,520
rest are are essentially complicit

4360
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:26,560
um

4361
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:28,160
because they're supporting potentially

4362
02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:30,160
somebody who could be you know who could

4363
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:31,600
have obstructed justice or could have

4364
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:33,280
committed espionage whatever whatever

4365
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:34,800
the accusation is and i i don't know one

4366
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:36,000
way or another in all honesty i wasn't

4367
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:37,359
there i met him

4368
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:38,240
um

4369
02:26:42,309 --> 02:26:40,560
but he does because this the your the

4370
02:26:44,790 --> 02:26:42,319
country is so polarized and it's not

4371
02:26:46,070 --> 02:26:44,800
based on southern states and and and

4372
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:46,080
northern states

4373
02:26:49,429 --> 02:26:47,840
because there is a very large mix of

4374
02:26:51,190 --> 02:26:49,439
democrat and republican left-leaning

4375
02:26:53,030 --> 02:26:51,200
right-leaning in every single state it's

4376
02:26:54,870 --> 02:26:53,040
just which state takes most now if you

4377
02:26:56,550 --> 02:26:54,880
talk about let's say wyoming which

4378
02:26:58,150 --> 02:26:56,560
doesn't actually exist

4379
02:26:59,349 --> 02:26:58,160
um

4380
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:59,359
now

4381
02:27:03,190 --> 02:27:00,960
i'm sorry have you anybody from wyoming

4382
02:27:04,790 --> 02:27:03,200
i sure as hell don't i'm like it does

4383
02:27:07,030 --> 02:27:04,800
like i'm sorry i found a map it's

4384
02:27:08,790 --> 02:27:07,040
actually been holy [\h__\h]

4385
02:27:10,630 --> 02:27:08,800
so i can i i can i can vouch for the

4386
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:10,640
fact that at least it at least existed

4387
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:11,920
at one point are you sure you're not

4388
02:27:15,429 --> 02:27:13,200
illuminati because that sounds like

4389
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:15,439
something illuminati would say

4390
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:18,560
i'm just just putting that out there now

4391
02:27:22,630 --> 02:27:20,000
okay

4392
02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:22,640
you have a like but the country's the

4393
02:27:25,990 --> 02:27:24,399
last civil war you had it was about

4394
02:27:27,110 --> 02:27:26,000
slavery anybody says it wasn't just

4395
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:27,120
about slavery

4396
02:27:31,270 --> 02:27:28,960
no it was about slaves it was it was it

4397
02:27:32,870 --> 02:27:31,280
was about much more it was about slavery

4398
02:27:34,710 --> 02:27:32,880
there were other things involved it was

4399
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:34,720
not just it was about slavery but it was

4400
02:27:38,309 --> 02:27:36,720
not just about slavery it's very easy to

4401
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:38,319
flatten it out

4402
02:27:42,389 --> 02:27:39,840
because it was also about economic

4403
02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:42,399
policy it was about um the balanced

4404
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:44,080
power within the different regions of

4405
02:27:47,510 --> 02:27:46,479
the united states it was about there

4406
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:47,520
there's

4407
02:27:50,710 --> 02:27:49,200
it's very easy to work it out to a

4408
02:27:53,190 --> 02:27:50,720
symbol to a simple answer was it about

4409
02:27:54,309 --> 02:27:53,200
slavery but okay just about flavor

4410
02:27:56,070 --> 02:27:54,319
okay the

4411
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:56,080
and i can understand from my my own

4412
02:27:59,670 --> 02:27:57,840
research is that the it wasn't the

4413
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:59,680
slavery that was used because it was the

4414
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,880
poor people who fought in the front

4415
02:28:03,670 --> 02:28:02,240
lines it was the one they they were the

4416
02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:03,680
soldiers

4417
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:06,960
the idea of slavery was around that okay

4418
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:09,120
so these slaves

4419
02:28:14,790 --> 02:28:11,439
and the idea was basically put that

4420
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,800
the if you were black you were

4421
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:16,720
you know like you were your property

4422
02:28:22,230 --> 02:28:18,880
which essentially means the poorest [\h__\h]

4423
02:28:23,670 --> 02:28:22,240
poor hillbilly from god knows where

4424
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:23,680
who is like four generations of

4425
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:25,600
inbreeding in who doesn't have a dime to

4426
02:28:30,070 --> 02:28:27,920
his name and who shoots muskrats you

4427
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:30,080
know in the middle of

4428
02:28:36,150 --> 02:28:33,760
[\h__\h] nowhere 1800 some united states

4429
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:36,160
that slave is still

4430
02:28:41,429 --> 02:28:38,080
worse off it's still lower on the totem

4431
02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:41,439
pole of society than you are so when

4432
02:28:44,309 --> 02:28:43,040
the news came around that like well

4433
02:28:45,990 --> 02:28:44,319
we're going to free everybody and equal

4434
02:28:48,309 --> 02:28:46,000
rights is like by law is going to be

4435
02:28:50,710 --> 02:28:48,319
enshrined for for the slaves

4436
02:28:52,630 --> 02:28:50,720
that notion was ingrained into people so

4437
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:52,640
it wasn't the fact that well we're going

4438
02:28:55,429 --> 02:28:54,160
to lose all this money and you know the

4439
02:28:58,230 --> 02:28:55,439
the states you know states rights and

4440
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:58,240
this and that it was well like the idea

4441
02:29:01,510 --> 02:29:00,080
of states rights was used as a scapegoat

4442
02:29:03,510 --> 02:29:01,520
for people to be able to continue to use

4443
02:29:06,790 --> 02:29:03,520
their money and keep the economy going

4444
02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:06,800
but the fear of status loss was used in

4445
02:29:15,349 --> 02:29:09,520
the poor population to get them to fight

4446
02:29:17,510 --> 02:29:16,630
yeah but they lost catastrophically yes

4447
02:29:22,469 --> 02:29:17,520
but

4448
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:22,479
there are very few events in american

4449
02:29:27,190 --> 02:29:24,160
history about which more mythology

4450
02:29:29,030 --> 02:29:27,200
exists on all sides than the civil war

4451
02:29:31,030 --> 02:29:29,040
it was a much complex phenomenon that

4452
02:29:33,830 --> 02:29:31,040
many people think for example the really

4453
02:29:35,990 --> 02:29:33,840
poor parts of the deep south um west

4454
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:36,000
north carolina what's now west virginia

4455
02:29:40,790 --> 02:29:39,359
some of the others those won't fly union

4456
02:29:42,550 --> 02:29:40,800
that's why we have a state of west

4457
02:29:45,750 --> 02:29:42,560
virginia because the entire

4458
02:29:48,630 --> 02:29:45,760
dirt poor western half of virginia split

4459
02:29:50,550 --> 02:29:48,640
off in 1862 refused to join the

4460
02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:50,560
confederacy

4461
02:29:53,190 --> 02:29:51,920
okay

4462
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:53,200
um

4463
02:29:56,389 --> 02:29:54,960
western western north carolina which is

4464
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:56,399
way up in the mountains and it's again

4465
02:29:59,510 --> 02:29:58,080
it's it's very much muskrat and

4466
02:30:01,670 --> 02:29:59,520
territory okay

4467
02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:01,680
um that was a bastard of union sentiment

4468
02:30:04,630 --> 02:30:03,439
all through the war

4469
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:04,640
again

4470
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:06,160
one of the things

4471
02:30:09,429 --> 02:30:07,200
there's

4472
02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:09,439
we we pretend we don't have mythology

4473
02:30:13,750 --> 02:30:11,439
nowadays and so we usually substitute

4474
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:13,760
history for it i'm sure if i knew it if

4475
02:30:16,309 --> 02:30:15,120
i knew as much about canadian history as

4476
02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:16,319
you know about america through i could

4477
02:30:20,309 --> 02:30:18,720
probably point out examples or i might

4478
02:30:21,510 --> 02:30:20,319
very well say things about canadian

4479
02:30:23,190 --> 02:30:21,520
history would have you dropping your

4480
02:30:24,870 --> 02:30:23,200
hand you feed your hands and your face

4481
02:30:26,150 --> 02:30:24,880
into your hands no no no no it's much

4482
02:30:27,670 --> 02:30:26,160
more complex

4483
02:30:28,710 --> 02:30:27,680
uh you i actually probably know about

4484
02:30:30,070 --> 02:30:28,720
american history than i do about

4485
02:30:31,750 --> 02:30:30,080
canadian and you probably know more

4486
02:30:33,270 --> 02:30:31,760
about canadian and american history than

4487
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:33,280
i do so

4488
02:30:36,150 --> 02:30:34,319
just

4489
02:30:37,750 --> 02:30:36,160
because mostly most canadians do learn

4490
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:37,760
but still go ahead

4491
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,880
yeah i said no it's just one of those

4492
02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:40,720
things but yeah the thing the thing to

4493
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:43,040
keep in mind is that

4494
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:48,230
the civil war

4495
02:30:53,190 --> 02:30:50,800
and everything having to do with it

4496
02:30:53,830 --> 02:30:53,200
since the day after appomattox has been

4497
02:30:59,429 --> 02:30:53,840
a

4498
02:31:01,590 --> 02:30:59,439
directions

4499
02:31:02,710 --> 02:31:01,600
for for like three generations after the

4500
02:31:04,309 --> 02:31:02,720
civil war

4501
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:04,319
you knew you were in the house of

4502
02:31:09,750 --> 02:31:07,600
republican family if you saw a copy of

4503
02:31:11,349 --> 02:31:09,760
ulysses s grant's autobiography on the

4504
02:31:12,469 --> 02:31:11,359
shelves

4505
02:31:14,550 --> 02:31:12,479
i mean the republicans were the

4506
02:31:15,190 --> 02:31:14,560
anti-slavery party back then okay they

4507
02:31:22,309 --> 02:31:15,200
were

4508
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:22,319
no things changed you bet but that's how

4509
02:31:27,990 --> 02:31:25,600
it was back in the 19th century and so

4510
02:31:29,110 --> 02:31:28,000
there as everywhere things get flopped

4511
02:31:31,510 --> 02:31:29,120
around

4512
02:31:33,190 --> 02:31:31,520
party chain they change their their in

4513
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:33,200
you know intentions without changing

4514
02:31:35,270 --> 02:31:34,319
their names

4515
02:31:37,270 --> 02:31:35,280
um

4516
02:31:39,190 --> 02:31:37,280
different ideologies move in

4517
02:31:40,150 --> 02:31:39,200
um

4518
02:31:41,750 --> 02:31:40,160
well for example the reason the

4519
02:31:43,270 --> 02:31:41,760
democrats named the liberal party was in

4520
02:31:46,230 --> 02:31:43,280
1932

4521
02:31:48,309 --> 02:31:46,240
of franklin roosevelt and a group of of

4522
02:31:50,230 --> 02:31:48,319
people basically seized it from

4523
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:50,240
northeastern democrats basically seeks

4524
02:31:54,630 --> 02:31:53,120
to control the party they teach a coup

4525
02:31:57,110 --> 02:31:54,640
in effect it's pretty much what bernie

4526
02:31:58,469 --> 02:31:57,120
sanders was trying to do um and they

4527
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:58,479
managed to get control of the party and

4528
02:32:02,230 --> 02:32:00,160
ran fbr into the white house where he

4529
02:32:03,190 --> 02:32:02,240
was for where he he remained for four

4530
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:03,200
terms

4531
02:32:05,910 --> 02:32:04,240
um

4532
02:32:07,429 --> 02:32:05,920
and completely redefined the democratic

4533
02:32:08,950 --> 02:32:07,439
party in the process of getting rid of a

4534
02:32:10,630 --> 02:32:08,960
lot of the old members

4535
02:32:12,070 --> 02:32:10,640
and so you know

4536
02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:12,080
history complex

4537
02:32:16,710 --> 02:32:14,080
and it's very easy to settle into one

4538
02:32:19,190 --> 02:32:16,720
factor and you know say well this was

4539
02:32:21,270 --> 02:32:19,200
caused by that that was caused by this

4540
02:32:22,830 --> 02:32:21,280
and usually again it it's a good thing

4541
02:32:25,030 --> 02:32:22,840
or it's an ungood

4542
02:32:26,469 --> 02:32:25,040
thing and it's never that simple in the

4543
02:32:28,309 --> 02:32:26,479
real world

4544
02:32:29,910 --> 02:32:28,319
similarly i mean here's here's an

4545
02:32:31,910 --> 02:32:29,920
example from my own experience i live in

4546
02:32:34,070 --> 02:32:31,920
a town right now in the north central

4547
02:32:35,990 --> 02:32:34,080
appalachians it is dirt poor used to be

4548
02:32:38,950 --> 02:32:36,000
a mill town lots of industry all that

4549
02:32:40,309 --> 02:32:38,960
went away in 1970s these days it's got

4550
02:32:42,230 --> 02:32:40,319
like 20 percent of the population lives

4551
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:42,240
below the poverty line

4552
02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:46,309
one of the really poor neighborhoods is

4553
02:32:51,030 --> 02:32:48,720
directly south of me i i go there all

4554
02:32:52,309 --> 02:32:51,040
the time i walk through it on the way to

4555
02:32:53,910 --> 02:32:52,319
the laundromat on the way to the

4556
02:32:55,510 --> 02:32:53,920
drugstore and various other things

4557
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:55,520
further down industrial boulevard that i

4558
02:33:00,309 --> 02:32:58,240
go to so i'm you know i'm known people

4559
02:33:01,429 --> 02:33:00,319
know who i am i know who they are um

4560
02:33:03,030 --> 02:33:01,439
it's a very important but it's a

4561
02:33:04,630 --> 02:33:03,040
mixed-race neighborhood by which i don't

4562
02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:04,640
just mean that here's why people hear

4563
02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:06,880
black people i mean that on a summer

4564
02:33:09,590 --> 02:33:08,080
evening when people sitting on the

4565
02:33:11,110 --> 02:33:09,600
porches the people who are sitting on

4566
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:11,120
any given porch are not all the same

4567
02:33:14,230 --> 02:33:12,640
skin color

4568
02:33:16,070 --> 02:33:14,240
and that's actually increasingly common

4569
02:33:17,349 --> 02:33:16,080
in america these days among the poor

4570
02:33:19,429 --> 02:33:17,359
it's in the middle class of the color

4571
02:33:20,550 --> 02:33:19,439
line it's fairly strong

4572
02:33:24,469 --> 02:33:20,560
so

4573
02:33:26,389 --> 02:33:24,479
this really poor

4574
02:33:27,670 --> 02:33:26,399
really dirt poor

4575
02:33:29,670 --> 02:33:27,680
neighborhood

4576
02:33:32,469 --> 02:33:29,680
which has a church every three blocks

4577
02:33:33,429 --> 02:33:32,479
and an abandoned house every three doors

4578
02:33:36,309 --> 02:33:33,439
okay

4579
02:33:38,230 --> 02:33:36,319
it's you know it is a picture of

4580
02:33:40,469 --> 02:33:38,240
american poverty

4581
02:33:41,990 --> 02:33:40,479
it is as i said very much racially you

4582
02:33:44,469 --> 02:33:42,000
see a lot of mixed-race children running

4583
02:33:46,150 --> 02:33:44,479
around people people marry and this kind

4584
02:33:48,469 --> 02:33:46,160
of stuff that was the first neighborhood

4585
02:33:50,469 --> 02:33:48,479
in town to put up trump signs it put up

4586
02:33:51,590 --> 02:33:50,479
more of them than any other neighborhood

4587
02:33:53,510 --> 02:33:51,600
in town

4588
02:33:55,990 --> 02:33:53,520
all of the hillary clinton signs in this

4589
02:33:57,590 --> 02:33:56,000
town were in the rich neighborhood

4590
02:34:00,150 --> 02:33:57,600
up on fort hill

4591
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:00,160
all of them

4592
02:34:03,990 --> 02:34:02,160
that's not something you will hear from

4593
02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:04,000
the media that's not something you'll

4594
02:34:08,070 --> 02:34:06,160
hear from the general discourse

4595
02:34:10,710 --> 02:34:08,080
that a huge number of people who voted

4596
02:34:15,830 --> 02:34:12,630
were the poor were the people who've

4597
02:34:18,070 --> 02:34:15,840
been on the losing side

4598
02:34:19,910 --> 02:34:18,080
the economic policies that all of the

4599
02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:19,920
middle class people have supported all

4600
02:34:24,550 --> 02:34:22,960
of the you know the global economy all

4601
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:24,560
the stuff that we've heard

4602
02:34:28,230 --> 02:34:26,640
talked about in such enthusiastic terms

4603
02:34:32,950 --> 02:34:28,240
all of that was built on the backs of

4604
02:34:36,309 --> 02:34:35,110
and that's why

4605
02:34:38,150 --> 02:34:36,319
what was it

4606
02:34:39,830 --> 02:34:38,160
a third

4607
02:34:41,429 --> 02:34:39,840
of the hispanic male vote in a quarter

4608
02:34:43,510 --> 02:34:41,439
of the hispanic female vote voted for

4609
02:34:46,070 --> 02:34:43,520
donald trump

4610
02:34:48,870 --> 02:34:46,080
that's why trump i mean

4611
02:34:50,870 --> 02:34:48,880
trump had a lot of votes from people of

4612
02:34:52,630 --> 02:34:50,880
color

4613
02:34:53,670 --> 02:34:52,640
not a lot of black votes i think he had

4614
02:34:57,190 --> 02:34:53,680
14

4615
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:57,200
um

4616
02:35:00,870 --> 02:34:58,720
there are economic issues that nobody

4617
02:35:03,429 --> 02:35:00,880
wants to talk about down here

4618
02:35:05,349 --> 02:35:03,439
there are issues of power

4619
02:35:07,030 --> 02:35:05,359
and the distribution of power in society

4620
02:35:08,710 --> 02:35:07,040
that nobody wants to talk about because

4621
02:35:10,630 --> 02:35:08,720
the people who are yelling about oh we

4622
02:35:13,429 --> 02:35:10,640
need to overthrow the system they're the

4623
02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:13,439
beneficiaries of the system

4624
02:35:15,750 --> 02:35:14,240
they're the people who've been

4625
02:35:17,349 --> 02:35:15,760
benefiting the last four years of

4626
02:35:19,750 --> 02:35:17,359
economic transformations

4627
02:35:21,349 --> 02:35:19,760
that the the the global economy is great

4628
02:35:22,710 --> 02:35:21,359
if you're in the middle class that all

4629
02:35:24,230 --> 02:35:22,720
your consumer goods have gotten really

4630
02:35:26,070 --> 02:35:24,240
cheap because they're being imported

4631
02:35:27,750 --> 02:35:26,080
from third world hell holes where

4632
02:35:29,510 --> 02:35:27,760
they're made of sweatshops for a dollar

4633
02:35:31,270 --> 02:35:29,520
a day

4634
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:31,280
and bringing in lots of illegal

4635
02:35:34,790 --> 02:35:33,280
immigrants to to drive wages down is

4636
02:35:36,070 --> 02:35:34,800
great if you're in the middle class

4637
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:36,080
because it means your consumer goods

4638
02:35:39,830 --> 02:35:37,840
cost less it means your services cost

4639
02:35:41,670 --> 02:35:39,840
less you are the hairdresser it costs

4640
02:35:43,110 --> 02:35:41,680
less it's great if you're middle class

4641
02:35:44,790 --> 02:35:43,120
if you're if you're part of the working

4642
02:35:47,670 --> 02:35:44,800
class majority in this country you've

4643
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:47,680
been screwed blued and tattooed by those

4644
02:35:55,030 --> 02:35:50,560
same policies for the last 40 years and

4645
02:35:57,110 --> 02:35:55,040
nobody on the left will talk about that

4646
02:35:58,950 --> 02:35:57,120
the left that used to be all oh we gotta

4647
02:36:01,190 --> 02:35:58,960
you know re improve the lot of the

4648
02:36:03,270 --> 02:36:01,200
workers they could care less about the

4649
02:36:04,309 --> 02:36:03,280
working class these days as long as

4650
02:36:05,429 --> 02:36:04,319
they're you know as long as they're

4651
02:36:07,270 --> 02:36:05,439
comfortable in their cozy little

4652
02:36:08,870 --> 02:36:07,280
lifestyles they could care less and so

4653
02:36:11,990 --> 02:36:08,880
you have a you have the left that is

4654
02:36:14,870 --> 02:36:12,000
focused on the kind of the middle class

4655
02:36:16,550 --> 02:36:14,880
and a right that's focused on the rich

4656
02:36:19,190 --> 02:36:16,560
and the poor who have nobody to speak

4657
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:19,200
for them at this point

4658
02:36:22,790 --> 02:36:21,120
instead of working for

4659
02:36:25,830 --> 02:36:22,800
that's the situation we have in america

4660
02:36:27,670 --> 02:36:25,840
these days and nobody's talking about it

4661
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:27,680
my blog they are my former blog which is

4662
02:36:30,950 --> 02:36:29,120
now which is now sun set it out i'm

4663
02:36:32,710 --> 02:36:30,960
getting a new one going um the art

4664
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:32,720
street report talked about that and it

4665
02:36:38,550 --> 02:36:35,920
got i i ended up with a quarter million

4666
02:36:41,990 --> 02:36:38,560
readers a month

4667
02:36:43,270 --> 02:36:42,000
for a weekly blog from from an archdruid

4668
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:43,280
talking about

4669
02:36:46,950 --> 02:36:45,439
you know politics from the bizarre scent

4670
02:36:48,150 --> 02:36:46,960
a quarter million people a month were

4671
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:48,160
reading this because nobody else was

4672
02:36:55,750 --> 02:36:49,760
saying what was actually responding to

4673
02:36:55,760 --> 02:37:00,230
sorry that was my rant

4674
02:37:04,150 --> 02:37:02,469
yeah no i'm i'm trying not to do again

4675
02:37:06,070 --> 02:37:04,160
i'm trying not trying not to do the alex

4676
02:37:11,750 --> 02:37:06,080
jones thing and cry on air

4677
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:13,590
we we in canada have

4678
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:15,439
poor areas and i i have to say one of

4679
02:37:20,870 --> 02:37:16,880
the first

4680
02:37:22,950 --> 02:37:20,880
examples of of the the disparity between

4681
02:37:26,230 --> 02:37:22,960
um

4682
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:26,240
but between the lower class and and and

4683
02:37:29,349 --> 02:37:27,520
you know here in canada as well as in

4684
02:37:31,750 --> 02:37:29,359
the states uh we have this one area of

4685
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:31,760
town in ottawa called vanier and you

4686
02:37:36,309 --> 02:37:33,600
know the there are many jokes made about

4687
02:37:37,429 --> 02:37:36,319
vanier because it's essentially the

4688
02:37:38,870 --> 02:37:37,439
the poor work you know like the poor

4689
02:37:40,309 --> 02:37:38,880
working class it's quote unquote the

4690
02:37:42,070 --> 02:37:40,319
ghetto it's where all the drug dealers

4691
02:37:43,670 --> 02:37:42,080
are da da da da there's a strip club in

4692
02:37:44,630 --> 02:37:43,680
the middle of a residential area as a

4693
02:37:46,309 --> 02:37:44,640
joke

4694
02:37:47,990 --> 02:37:46,319
it's pretty bad you don't go there at

4695
02:37:49,910 --> 02:37:48,000
night type of thing but it's nowhere

4696
02:37:52,070 --> 02:37:49,920
close to as bad as some places in the

4697
02:37:53,670 --> 02:37:52,080
states where if you step outside your

4698
02:37:57,030 --> 02:37:53,680
door within five minutes you'll get

4699
02:38:05,110 --> 02:37:57,040
robbed shot beaten up whatever uh we we

4700
02:38:08,790 --> 02:38:06,550
second year college class for

4701
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:08,800
advertising we went from like we went to

4702
02:38:14,870 --> 02:38:11,520
go visit a bunch of of uh new york

4703
02:38:16,309 --> 02:38:14,880
um uh advertising agencies and i i love

4704
02:38:18,469 --> 02:38:16,319
new york city it's like my home away

4705
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:18,479
from home i got brothers out there

4706
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:20,800
uh you know for like for brother for all

4707
02:38:24,469 --> 02:38:23,600
the freemasons on uh you know that's uh

4708
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:24,479
you know

4709
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:26,000
for any anywhere in new york whether

4710
02:38:28,309 --> 02:38:27,200
you're talking brooklyn you know like

4711
02:38:29,990 --> 02:38:28,319
thank you for listening to the show love

4712
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:30,000
you to death um couldn't have got here

4713
02:38:33,030 --> 02:38:31,280
without you but

4714
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:33,040
going through

4715
02:38:36,630 --> 02:38:34,960
uh syracuse new york

4716
02:38:38,469 --> 02:38:36,640
um

4717
02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:38,479
going even on the highway you could see

4718
02:38:41,349 --> 02:38:39,600
the neighborhoods and whether it was

4719
02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:41,359
like considered middle class or lower

4720
02:38:44,469 --> 02:38:42,399
class

4721
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,479
for here all of the houses built in the

4722
02:38:48,150 --> 02:38:46,240
early 80s it's siding i live in a house

4723
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:48,160
that was built in 1982 it's a condo we

4724
02:38:51,990 --> 02:38:50,080
bought it for a very good price compared

4725
02:38:54,309 --> 02:38:52,000
to most others in in auto at this point

4726
02:38:56,150 --> 02:38:54,319
three bedroom good size um but it's like

4727
02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:56,160
an 80s style it's still in fairly good

4728
02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:58,080
condition

4729
02:39:01,590 --> 02:39:00,399
whereas the houses were you know it's

4730
02:39:03,990 --> 02:39:01,600
like it was

4731
02:39:05,670 --> 02:39:04,000
when you watch a disaster movie or like

4732
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:05,680
a monster movie where it's like okay

4733
02:39:08,070 --> 02:39:06,880
they're going back to this part of the

4734
02:39:09,910 --> 02:39:08,080
neighborhood nobody's been there for

4735
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:09,920
like years it's dingy and this and that

4736
02:39:13,830 --> 02:39:11,040
and that's what you see that's what it

4737
02:39:17,110 --> 02:39:13,840
looked like and this was in 2012

4738
02:39:20,309 --> 02:39:17,120
and i'm going holy like holy holy [\h__\h]

4739
02:39:21,910 --> 02:39:20,319
this is oh my god yeah

4740
02:39:23,670 --> 02:39:21,920
one of the advantages i have i take the

4741
02:39:25,030 --> 02:39:23,680
train that's my preferred mode of

4742
02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:25,040
transportation

4743
02:39:30,150 --> 02:39:27,680
okay and so the train always goes

4744
02:39:33,510 --> 02:39:30,160
through the poor areas

4745
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:33,520
so i've got a i've got a rail side view

4746
02:39:38,230 --> 02:39:35,120
of the of

4747
02:39:39,590 --> 02:39:38,240
american american decay and decline and

4748
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,600
it's a view that most people in the

4749
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:41,680
bubble you know the by coastal elite

4750
02:39:46,230 --> 02:39:44,160
bubble never see

4751
02:39:48,550 --> 02:39:46,240
they just they literally this the united

4752
02:39:50,389 --> 02:39:48,560
states outside of

4753
02:39:52,070 --> 02:39:50,399
you know the the big cities on the two

4754
02:39:53,270 --> 02:39:52,080
coasts it's a third world country at

4755
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:53,280
this point

4756
02:39:56,630 --> 02:39:55,280
seriously it is a third world country

4757
02:39:58,870 --> 02:39:56,640
that had that happens to have a first

4758
02:40:01,030 --> 02:39:58,880
world military and a lot of you know a

4759
02:40:02,309 --> 02:40:01,040
string of very rich cities going down

4760
02:40:03,190 --> 02:40:02,319
the two coasts

4761
02:40:05,510 --> 02:40:03,200
um

4762
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:06,630
i i

4763
02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:08,640
you know i'm at a loss for words and for

4764
02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:10,720
a writer that's a very rare thing

4765
02:40:16,710 --> 02:40:13,120
this is the situation that we've got and

4766
02:40:18,469 --> 02:40:16,720
that was not the case 40 years ago

4767
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:18,479
40 years ago the town in which i now

4768
02:40:22,630 --> 02:40:20,880
live this this you know

4769
02:40:24,030 --> 02:40:22,640
dirt poor

4770
02:40:25,670 --> 02:40:24,040
run-down

4771
02:40:27,590 --> 02:40:25,680
dilapidated

4772
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:27,600
jobless

4773
02:40:35,030 --> 02:40:31,680
basket case of an appalachian town

4774
02:40:37,830 --> 02:40:35,040
was a successful thriving small city

4775
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:37,840
with plenty of jobs for everyone

4776
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:39,840
planet you know it was it was a viable

4777
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:42,240
community in those days and that didn't

4778
02:40:45,429 --> 02:40:44,399
happen because of some for the the end

4779
02:40:46,870 --> 02:40:45,439
of that didn't happen because of some

4780
02:40:48,710 --> 02:40:46,880
force of nature it happened because of

4781
02:40:50,070 --> 02:40:48,720
deliberate policies pursued by both

4782
02:40:53,670 --> 02:40:50,080
political parties

4783
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:53,680
the whirlwind i mean the demo the

4784
02:40:56,790 --> 02:40:55,520
republicans were just as horrified when

4785
02:40:58,630 --> 02:40:56,800
donald trump

4786
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:58,640
um took the nomination you remember all

4787
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:59,600
the the

4788
02:41:03,349 --> 02:41:01,439
sort of indistinguishable republican

4789
02:41:05,590 --> 02:41:03,359
candidates who were trying to you know

4790
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:05,600
jeb bush and all these people

4791
02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:11,349
yeah but the thing is a lot of people

4792
02:41:15,590 --> 02:41:13,600
most americans wouldn't because jeb bush

4793
02:41:17,429 --> 02:41:15,600
was just more of the same

4794
02:41:19,030 --> 02:41:17,439
yeah he was saying yeah we're going to

4795
02:41:20,710 --> 02:41:19,040
make a few little cosmetic changes and

4796
02:41:22,790 --> 02:41:20,720
we're going to do exactly what obama did

4797
02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:22,800
you know which is exactly what what his

4798
02:41:27,590 --> 02:41:25,600
brother did which is

4799
02:41:29,590 --> 02:41:27,600
and the republicans were horrified

4800
02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:29,600
because donald trump comes in and says

4801
02:41:34,070 --> 02:41:32,000
no let's actually like

4802
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:34,080
enforce our immigration laws and stop

4803
02:41:39,110 --> 02:41:36,160
allowing stop encouraging the offshoring

4804
02:41:42,230 --> 02:41:40,469
and it didn't matter what else he said

4805
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:42,240
it didn't matter what he was people

4806
02:41:45,750 --> 02:41:44,479
could make all kinds of jokes about it

4807
02:41:47,510 --> 02:41:45,760
but

4808
02:41:49,590 --> 02:41:47,520
nobody else was willing to talk about

4809
02:41:51,590 --> 02:41:49,600
the things that matter to like half the

4810
02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:51,600
american people

4811
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:53,520
and that's what's bringing us up against

4812
02:41:57,429 --> 02:41:55,760
the kind of crisis that we're facing in

4813
02:41:59,270 --> 02:41:57,439
this country

4814
02:42:01,429 --> 02:41:59,280
in third world america

4815
02:42:03,190 --> 02:42:01,439
well i i even even for myself like i

4816
02:42:05,030 --> 02:42:03,200
looked at and i watched all the debates

4817
02:42:06,230 --> 02:42:05,040
like we here in canada looked down at

4818
02:42:08,389 --> 02:42:06,240
american politics it's like with the

4819
02:42:10,790 --> 02:42:08,399
reason that we watch nfl and like you

4820
02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:10,800
know some of us will watch cfl i'm i've

4821
02:42:14,950 --> 02:42:13,439
got i have a family a member who was uh

4822
02:42:17,429 --> 02:42:14,960
you know star quarterback and in several

4823
02:42:18,790 --> 02:42:17,439
great grey cups um and no one will know

4824
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:18,800
anything about that south of the border

4825
02:42:22,150 --> 02:42:20,240
it's a great cup what the [\h__\h] is that

4826
02:42:24,150 --> 02:42:22,160
uh it's a super bowl trophy that is way

4827
02:42:26,630 --> 02:42:24,160
older than any trophy in north america

4828
02:42:28,710 --> 02:42:26,640
it's like the original football trophy

4829
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:28,720
um sweet but you know it's like that's

4830
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:29,760
great you can know all the canadian

4831
02:42:33,270 --> 02:42:31,840
politics and i i know

4832
02:42:35,190 --> 02:42:33,280
a ton about canadian politics in terms

4833
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:35,200
of the the strategies and and the

4834
02:42:39,030 --> 02:42:37,040
motivations but everyone watches

4835
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:39,040
american politics because it's the nfl

4836
02:42:43,750 --> 02:42:41,600
of politics you want the big show you

4837
02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:43,760
got to go to the big to the big market

4838
02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:45,600
you watch the big market

4839
02:42:48,150 --> 02:42:46,399
and

4840
02:42:51,110 --> 02:42:48,160
i watched it you know like i watched it

4841
02:42:51,910 --> 02:42:51,120
extensively the democratic nomination

4842
02:42:55,429 --> 02:42:51,920
was

4843
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:55,439
to be bernie or hillary and everyone

4844
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:56,479
knew that hillary was going to win

4845
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:58,560
because well it's either you know like

4846
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:00,640
just we all know how it's supposed to

4847
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:02,560
work and it for them it worked out the

4848
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:04,240
way that it was supposed to with donald

4849
02:43:07,750 --> 02:43:06,160
trump he came in and i know i'm going to

4850
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:07,760
steal a lot from from michael moore and

4851
02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:09,120
he spent a lot of time researching this

4852
02:43:11,670 --> 02:43:10,240
and i didn't actually even watch the

4853
02:43:13,830 --> 02:43:11,680
movie but yeah you've got all these

4854
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,840
people who were kicked down

4855
02:43:17,110 --> 02:43:15,120
believe it or not

4856
02:43:18,790 --> 02:43:17,120
yeah by democratic policies but believe

4857
02:43:20,870 --> 02:43:18,800
it or not also by a lot of republican

4858
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:20,880
policies and a lot oh yeah no

4859
02:43:26,790 --> 02:43:25,670
the policy the policies that destroyed

4860
02:43:29,030 --> 02:43:26,800
the american working class were

4861
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:29,040
absolutely a bipartisan concept yes and

4862
02:43:32,070 --> 02:43:30,720
it's it's it is again parties and it

4863
02:43:34,790 --> 02:43:32,080
comes down to again the whole they'll

4864
02:43:36,389 --> 02:43:34,800
put a show on on in front and they will

4865
02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:36,399
work out a deal in the back room and

4866
02:43:39,429 --> 02:43:38,479
they will screw the average voter out so

4867
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:39,439
they can get re-elected and they're

4868
02:43:42,230 --> 02:43:40,560
going to tell them oh it was the other

4869
02:43:43,349 --> 02:43:42,240
guy who did it not me

4870
02:43:44,790 --> 02:43:43,359
and and

4871
02:43:45,670 --> 02:43:44,800
shift the blame

4872
02:43:46,790 --> 02:43:45,680
so

4873
02:43:48,550 --> 02:43:46,800
when i looked at it i'm like okay

4874
02:43:50,950 --> 02:43:48,560
trump's winning and i know trump is and

4875
02:43:52,950 --> 02:43:50,960
i've read enough about him i know

4876
02:43:54,790 --> 02:43:52,960
enough about trump from people who have

4877
02:43:57,750 --> 02:43:54,800
worked with him worked for him written

4878
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:57,760
books for him um and have given exposes

4879
02:44:00,230 --> 02:43:58,720
and it's like okay you could be

4880
02:44:01,349 --> 02:44:00,240
bullshitting but there's always a kernel

4881
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:01,359
of truth and everything that is always

4882
02:44:04,469 --> 02:44:02,319
said

4883
02:44:07,670 --> 02:44:04,479
and i know enough about

4884
02:44:10,150 --> 02:44:07,680
from what i've heard to know he's like

4885
02:44:11,190 --> 02:44:10,160
yeah he's never had to work for anything

4886
02:44:13,429 --> 02:44:11,200
in his life

4887
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:13,439
and he's constantly been looked down

4888
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:14,960
upon and that's the worst thing he's

4889
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:17,120
been looked down upon by the elite of

4890
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:19,200
the elite so democrats

4891
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:21,279
like democratic rich on wall street or

4892
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:23,279
republican return walls but the inner

4893
02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:25,359
wall street said you're not good enough

4894
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:27,920
and coming from somebody who has in any

4895
02:44:32,309 --> 02:44:29,520
crowd that i've ever been in always been

4896
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:32,319
kind of the odd man out and it's you

4897
02:44:34,790 --> 02:44:33,439
know it's kind of like you want to root

4898
02:44:36,389 --> 02:44:34,800
for that guy whereas like okay you

4899
02:44:38,550 --> 02:44:36,399
understand that like okay he's got some

4900
02:44:40,469 --> 02:44:38,560
good ideas he said some things a certain

4901
02:44:41,910 --> 02:44:40,479
way that made sense from a certain

4902
02:44:43,990 --> 02:44:41,920
business standpoint it's like if elon

4903
02:44:46,389 --> 02:44:44,000
musk said okay well we gotta go to mars

4904
02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:46,399
and it's like we we we elect elon musk

4905
02:44:49,429 --> 02:44:47,920
to to go to mars then we find out oh

4906
02:44:51,830 --> 02:44:49,439
[\h__\h] you know well he treats his workers

4907
02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:51,840
like [\h__\h] which from anybody if you

4908
02:44:55,750 --> 02:44:54,560
you know uh google elon musk how he

4909
02:44:57,750 --> 02:44:55,760
treats workers

4910
02:44:59,030 --> 02:44:57,760
people just go like oh my god this is

4911
02:45:01,030 --> 02:44:59,040
this is horrible that he doesn't pay

4912
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:01,040
overtime there's tons of people out

4913
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:02,800
there talking badly about it

4914
02:45:05,670 --> 02:45:03,520
so

4915
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:05,680
when they looked at what just what is

4916
02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:06,960
just saying and nobody wanted to be able

4917
02:45:10,630 --> 02:45:08,560
to do the research into it and he was

4918
02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,640
saying all the well

4919
02:45:13,830 --> 02:45:12,479
he was trying to say he was

4920
02:45:16,389 --> 02:45:13,840
the subject matter from what he was

4921
02:45:18,469 --> 02:45:16,399
trying to present was was right um he

4922
02:45:20,950 --> 02:45:18,479
didn't exactly express it

4923
02:45:24,790 --> 02:45:20,960
in anything more than let's say

4924
02:45:27,830 --> 02:45:24,800
uh a grade 10 level to a certain extent

4925
02:45:29,750 --> 02:45:27,840
in a very large suit if that yeah

4926
02:45:30,710 --> 02:45:29,760
bigly if bigly is used as a word i'm

4927
02:45:31,910 --> 02:45:30,720
like are you kidding me you're

4928
02:45:33,349 --> 02:45:31,920
multi-billionaire you don't have you

4929
02:45:34,790 --> 02:45:33,359
know how to use a word like i've got a

4930
02:45:36,950 --> 02:45:34,800
larger vocabulary than i do and i only

4931
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:36,960
have a college degree thank you

4932
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:38,479
and it like for me it's like okay he

4933
02:45:41,510 --> 02:45:40,160
it's either he used that language to try

4934
02:45:43,590 --> 02:45:41,520
and appeal to the common man or is

4935
02:45:45,190 --> 02:45:43,600
actually that dumb it's a possibility

4936
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:45,200
so i looked at this entire situation

4937
02:45:48,389 --> 02:45:46,319
going

4938
02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:48,399
okay this is happening and i'm thinking

4939
02:45:51,110 --> 02:45:49,760
i'm like getting into all my friends and

4940
02:45:51,990 --> 02:45:51,120
i have a lot of friends on facebook who

4941
02:45:53,590 --> 02:45:52,000
are gonna listen to this and probably

4942
02:45:54,950 --> 02:45:53,600
[\h__\h] on me but i already told them like

4943
02:45:56,230 --> 02:45:54,960
i love you no matter what it doesn't

4944
02:45:57,269 --> 02:45:56,240
matter what political affiliation you

4945
02:45:59,030 --> 02:45:57,279
are

4946
02:46:00,309 --> 02:45:59,040
i love you because you're a good person

4947
02:46:02,070 --> 02:46:00,319
like i don't give a [\h__\h] about your

4948
02:46:03,590 --> 02:46:02,080
politics the politicians are when i

4949
02:46:05,269 --> 02:46:03,600
don't like i love you because you're

4950
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:05,279
awesome the same reason that i love

4951
02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:06,240
everyone who listens to this show

4952
02:46:08,790 --> 02:46:07,520
because they're [\h__\h] awesome it

4953
02:46:11,990 --> 02:46:08,800
doesn't matter about politics we talk

4954
02:46:13,190 --> 02:46:12,000
politics but as an individual of them so

4955
02:46:14,389 --> 02:46:13,200
when they said okay we like trump i'm

4956
02:46:16,389 --> 02:46:14,399
like i'm not gonna say anything about

4957
02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:16,399
this on on i'll leave it to the show or

4958
02:46:19,030 --> 02:46:17,760
leave it to my own my own friends or

4959
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:19,040
what have you

4960
02:46:22,230 --> 02:46:19,920
but

4961
02:46:23,429 --> 02:46:22,240
when he went on i'm like he's gonna win

4962
02:46:25,910 --> 02:46:23,439
because he's he's talking about the

4963
02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:25,920
proper issues he's making some sense and

4964
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:27,600
he's talking at a level that they will

4965
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:29,359
be like your average person who has been

4966
02:46:34,070 --> 02:46:32,000
[\h__\h] on by the political elite

4967
02:46:36,950 --> 02:46:34,080
you know will respond to and as an

4968
02:46:38,870 --> 02:46:36,960
advertising guy if i went to be blunt if

4969
02:46:41,190 --> 02:46:38,880
i went into advertising for politics or

4970
02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:41,200
messaging for politics it doesn't matter

4971
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:43,920
i i would cr like trudeau's win

4972
02:46:47,590 --> 02:46:45,439
jesus christ like i could have i could

4973
02:46:49,750 --> 02:46:47,600
have gotten a you know [\h__\h] on a stick

4974
02:46:51,429 --> 02:46:49,760
elected over trudeau

4975
02:46:53,830 --> 02:46:51,439
that's the level that i understand the

4976
02:46:55,269 --> 02:46:53,840
entire process as far as the mind works

4977
02:46:56,870 --> 02:46:55,279
but i'm looking at this like he's going

4978
02:46:58,550 --> 02:46:56,880
to win and i know exactly it's going to

4979
02:46:59,670 --> 02:46:58,560
and everyone didn't believe it

4980
02:47:01,349 --> 02:46:59,680
and then this entire thing happened i'm

4981
02:47:02,950 --> 02:47:01,359
like okay now watch this

4982
02:47:04,389 --> 02:47:02,960
he is going to do everything exactly

4983
02:47:05,750 --> 02:47:04,399
he's going to do what he the the worst

4984
02:47:07,030 --> 02:47:05,760
parts about what he said he's going to

4985
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:07,040
do which is going to piss everyone else

4986
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:08,080
off

4987
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:10,240
and the things that he wanted

4988
02:47:13,190 --> 02:47:11,840
that people wanted in the conspiracy

4989
02:47:15,670 --> 02:47:13,200
community who believed him and the the

4990
02:47:19,190 --> 02:47:15,680
the the you know the hit the hail keck

4991
02:47:21,110 --> 02:47:19,200
um uh i mean going to that but yeah the

4992
02:47:22,790 --> 02:47:21,120
the that entire side of 4chan which is

4993
02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:22,800
like okay we're going to invoke keck and

4994
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:24,560
get donald trump elected

4995
02:47:26,389 --> 02:47:25,359
and

4996
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:26,399
you know

4997
02:47:31,670 --> 02:47:29,359
they're people who believe and again

4998
02:47:34,309 --> 02:47:31,680
not knocking fortran like 4chan at all

4999
02:47:37,190 --> 02:47:34,319
but there is an entire segment of

5000
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:37,200
society in america that believes in

5001
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:38,720
anything that they're told the worst of

5002
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:40,800
the worst of the worst not just cynical

5003
02:47:43,670 --> 02:47:41,520
but

5004
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:43,680
not you know like if we as freemasons

5005
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:46,080
help society that we're devil worshipers

5006
02:47:49,910 --> 02:47:48,160
so

5007
02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:49,920
they think that they know how the game

5008
02:47:54,070 --> 02:47:52,240
of billionaires is played

5009
02:47:56,950 --> 02:47:54,080
they think that they figured it out

5010
02:47:58,389 --> 02:47:56,960
and i'm like you make 40 000 a year 30

5011
02:48:00,630 --> 02:47:58,399
like you're poor [\h__\h] and you think you

5012
02:48:03,990 --> 02:48:00,640
have the the the the frame of mind of

5013
02:48:05,910 --> 02:48:04,000
how billionaire person works like

5014
02:48:07,190 --> 02:48:05,920
i i don't think you do

5015
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:07,200
and i don't think how badly you're

5016
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:08,560
getting played

5017
02:48:11,349 --> 02:48:10,080
and it's it's

5018
02:48:12,630 --> 02:48:11,359
as much as i'd like to be able to say

5019
02:48:13,590 --> 02:48:12,640
there's a very good chance you were

5020
02:48:15,349 --> 02:48:13,600
fooled

5021
02:48:16,870 --> 02:48:15,359
based on your fact that you question

5022
02:48:18,550 --> 02:48:16,880
everything so that you're made to

5023
02:48:20,550 --> 02:48:18,560
believe the exact opposite of what is

5024
02:48:22,870 --> 02:48:20,560
actually true in this situation your

5025
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:22,880
ability to look at the conspiracy and

5026
02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:25,520
question everything has made you believe

5027
02:48:28,830 --> 02:48:27,200
the lie

5028
02:48:31,750 --> 02:48:28,840
and because of

5029
02:48:33,670 --> 02:48:31,760
that yeah

5030
02:48:36,070 --> 02:48:33,680
excessive the the conspiracy the

5031
02:48:38,630 --> 02:48:36,080
conspiratorial mind

5032
02:48:40,389 --> 02:48:38,640
is a form of gulf ability it's just a

5033
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:40,399
gullibility to the opposite of what

5034
02:48:44,469 --> 02:48:42,960
these what the conventional wisdom is

5035
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:44,479
and so yeah you can

5036
02:48:48,230 --> 02:48:46,800
you can sell anything as long as you

5037
02:48:49,830 --> 02:48:48,240
convince them that somebody else is

5038
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:49,840
saying the opposite somebody with an

5039
02:48:58,870 --> 02:48:57,349
and it's like the the people who

5040
02:49:00,230 --> 02:48:58,880
needed the help and just voted for

5041
02:49:01,910 --> 02:49:00,240
anything other than the status quo

5042
02:49:03,590 --> 02:49:01,920
because it wouldn't change got fooled

5043
02:49:05,510 --> 02:49:03,600
because they this is their desperation

5044
02:49:06,790 --> 02:49:05,520
attempt and they voted for it and they

5045
02:49:08,230 --> 02:49:06,800
got [\h__\h] over

5046
02:49:09,590 --> 02:49:08,240
the people who thought they knew the

5047
02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:09,600
game and they're like yeah we're gonna

5048
02:49:12,469 --> 02:49:10,720
put all our like we're gonna put all of

5049
02:49:13,990 --> 02:49:12,479
our money on red and we're gonna like

5050
02:49:16,070 --> 02:49:14,000
get double the money back and we're

5051
02:49:17,750 --> 02:49:16,080
gonna say [\h__\h] you to those people who

5052
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:17,760
like don't know [\h__\h] the sheeple out

5053
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:18,640
there

5054
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:20,720
and they're gonna be screwed and he's

5055
02:49:24,309 --> 02:49:23,040
gonna get all the pizzagate people and

5056
02:49:26,309 --> 02:49:24,319
you know he's gonna

5057
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:26,319
drain the swamp and you know like

5058
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:27,920
america's gonna be great again i'm like

5059
02:49:31,830 --> 02:49:29,680
well america was great beforehand you

5060
02:49:33,269 --> 02:49:31,840
guys are you guys have a constitution

5061
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:33,279
that this is a constitution that's been

5062
02:49:37,110 --> 02:49:35,920
used the longest straight from beginning

5063
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:37,120
to now

5064
02:49:41,269 --> 02:49:39,359
compared to any other country out there

5065
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:41,279
your rights and freedoms

5066
02:49:44,550 --> 02:49:42,800
it would be it would be nice it would be

5067
02:49:46,309 --> 02:49:44,560
nice if we still followed it well i i

5068
02:49:47,110 --> 02:49:46,319
know but the essential the essential

5069
02:49:48,790 --> 02:49:47,120
part

5070
02:49:50,469 --> 02:49:48,800
it's a really good constitution yeah

5071
02:49:52,389 --> 02:49:50,479
very interesting

5072
02:49:53,830 --> 02:49:52,399
it is at least still theoretically in

5073
02:49:54,950 --> 02:49:53,840
place in the theoretical okay it's

5074
02:49:56,870 --> 02:49:54,960
theoretically in place but the

5075
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:56,880
constitution has been theoretically in

5076
02:49:59,030 --> 02:49:57,840
place

5077
02:50:01,110 --> 02:49:59,040
for

5078
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:01,120
the longest period of time as any a

5079
02:50:04,870 --> 02:50:03,200
country on the planet right now every

5080
02:50:06,630 --> 02:50:04,880
single other country their constitution

5081
02:50:09,910 --> 02:50:06,640
or bill of rights or what have you

5082
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:09,920
has not been around as long as america's

5083
02:50:13,030 --> 02:50:10,960
and

5084
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:13,040
many of them i'm trying to think the

5085
02:50:18,870 --> 02:50:15,920
only i i can think of i can think of one

5086
02:50:20,630 --> 02:50:18,880
one other that actually has had

5087
02:50:21,670 --> 02:50:20,640
in effect its constitution in place a

5088
02:50:22,550 --> 02:50:21,680
little longer and that would be great

5089
02:50:24,469 --> 02:50:22,560
britain

5090
02:50:25,750 --> 02:50:24,479
the magna carta but it was more of a

5091
02:50:27,590 --> 02:50:25,760
concept well i'm thinking no i'm

5092
02:50:29,510 --> 02:50:27,600
thinking specifically the laws that the

5093
02:50:31,269 --> 02:50:29,520
the um whatever you call i forgot the

5094
02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:31,279
name of the act are english listeners

5095
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:34,399
without know it in 1688

5096
02:50:39,910 --> 02:50:37,920
in 1688 when um william william iii

5097
02:50:42,630 --> 02:50:39,920
became king james ii was kicked out

5098
02:50:45,590 --> 02:50:42,640
william iii came in there was a specific

5099
02:50:48,150 --> 02:50:45,600
series of legal acts by parliament which

5100
02:50:49,990 --> 02:50:48,160
basically have shaped the relationship

5101
02:50:53,349 --> 02:50:50,000
between the king and parliament ever

5102
02:50:55,349 --> 02:50:53,359
since and so i believe the 1688

5103
02:50:56,950 --> 02:50:55,359
in effect it i mean england has an

5104
02:50:58,870 --> 02:50:56,960
unwritten constitution but those laws

5105
02:51:01,510 --> 02:50:58,880
basically function as

5106
02:51:03,429 --> 02:51:01,520
as the anchor for it and i think that if

5107
02:51:04,389 --> 02:51:03,439
you talk to constitutional law people

5108
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:04,399
they'll say

5109
02:51:07,670 --> 02:51:06,160
that great britain is the one country in

5110
02:51:10,469 --> 02:51:07,680
the world because they theirs goes to

5111
02:51:11,590 --> 02:51:10,479
1688 and ours goes to 1782.

5112
02:51:13,429 --> 02:51:11,600
so they have

5113
02:51:17,030 --> 02:51:13,439
they have a little ahead of us

5114
02:51:18,630 --> 02:51:17,040
but that's it that's literally that's it

5115
02:51:20,870 --> 02:51:18,640
see if i get this down here so the bill

5116
02:51:22,550 --> 02:51:20,880
of rights is 1689 it's listed and this

5117
02:51:24,070 --> 02:51:22,560
is an act of parliament

5118
02:51:25,670 --> 02:51:24,080
yeah deals of constitutional matters set

5119
02:51:27,429 --> 02:51:25,680
out in certain basic civil rights passed

5120
02:51:30,150 --> 02:51:27,439
and the 16th of december

5121
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:30,160
1689 it is a restatement of statutory

5122
02:51:35,190 --> 02:51:32,240
form declaration of rights so

5123
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:35,200
theoretically yes um yeah so yeah you're

5124
02:51:38,630 --> 02:51:36,800
right on that

5125
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:38,640
but but still

5126
02:51:42,389 --> 02:51:40,720
that's one of two and you know both

5127
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:42,399
countries both countries have their

5128
02:51:45,510 --> 02:51:43,680
problems but both of them have had

5129
02:51:47,910 --> 02:51:45,520
essentially stable governmental systems

5130
02:51:49,590 --> 02:51:47,920
for all these years and most of the

5131
02:51:50,550 --> 02:51:49,600
democracies on the planet copy one or

5132
02:51:51,670 --> 02:51:50,560
the other

5133
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:51,680
essentially

5134
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:53,920
so yeah

5135
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:54,880
and i'm trying to think where i was

5136
02:51:58,389 --> 02:51:56,240
going with that

5137
02:51:59,750 --> 02:51:58,399
but essentially it's like

5138
02:52:01,990 --> 02:51:59,760
you were talking about how people who

5139
02:52:03,670 --> 02:52:02,000
want people were wanting to america to

5140
02:52:06,870 --> 02:52:03,680
the spirit to make america great again

5141
02:52:08,389 --> 02:52:06,880
well the thing the spirit of america is

5142
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:08,399
it's it has been a shining beacon in the

5143
02:52:12,389 --> 02:52:10,000
western world and all the world for a

5144
02:52:13,910 --> 02:52:12,399
very long time and it's for a reason i

5145
02:52:15,190 --> 02:52:13,920
guess americans they they're supposed to

5146
02:52:16,790 --> 02:52:15,200
walk like they're supposed to they're

5147
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:16,800
supposed to walk taller their balls are

5148
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:17,920
supposed to be bigger their hats are

5149
02:52:21,429 --> 02:52:19,760
supposed to be more ostentatious their

5150
02:52:22,790 --> 02:52:21,439
cars are supposed to be louder and

5151
02:52:25,750 --> 02:52:22,800
they're supposed to be the smartest

5152
02:52:27,990 --> 02:52:25,760
fastest strongest and most amazing you

5153
02:52:30,790 --> 02:52:28,000
know that they give the most and they

5154
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:30,800
just they take no [\h__\h] they they they

5155
02:52:34,710 --> 02:52:32,880
you know they they put the the bad the

5156
02:52:36,230 --> 02:52:34,720
like they're the good guys the good guys

5157
02:52:37,670 --> 02:52:36,240
win and the bad guys lose that is the

5158
02:52:38,630 --> 02:52:37,680
essential that that's the essential

5159
02:52:39,510 --> 02:52:38,640
theme

5160
02:52:44,950 --> 02:52:39,520
and

5161
02:52:47,030 --> 02:52:44,960
you are so

5162
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:47,040
the idea of that

5163
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:48,399
things have changed

5164
02:52:52,469 --> 02:52:50,960
and understanding that there are the

5165
02:52:55,190 --> 02:52:52,479
technology has changed the way the world

5166
02:52:56,469 --> 02:52:55,200
works has changed and our enemies are

5167
02:52:58,070 --> 02:52:56,479
the people who

5168
02:52:58,950 --> 02:52:58,080
have been against us for a very long

5169
02:53:00,550 --> 02:52:58,960
time

5170
02:53:01,830 --> 02:53:00,560
very you know you could be evil people

5171
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:01,840
there

5172
02:53:04,870 --> 02:53:04,080
they have long memories and if you have

5173
02:53:07,190 --> 02:53:04,880
the

5174
02:53:09,510 --> 02:53:07,200
if you have ultimate power and you have

5175
02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:09,520
the means to do and say or manifest

5176
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:10,880
anything you want because you have

5177
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:13,040
ultimate power within your your sphere

5178
02:53:16,150 --> 02:53:14,720
sphere of influence

5179
02:53:17,910 --> 02:53:16,160
if you've got a grudge you're gonna

5180
02:53:18,790 --> 02:53:17,920
you're gonna take that out on people

5181
02:53:20,630 --> 02:53:18,800
um

5182
02:53:21,670 --> 02:53:20,640
at the start of the show i called out a

5183
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,680
[\h__\h] ton of people i may have been

5184
02:53:24,710 --> 02:53:23,439
punching above my weight my weight may

5185
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,720
actually have some words of people who

5186
02:53:29,349 --> 02:53:26,479
are above them

5187
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:29,359
so my whole thing is if and i don't know

5188
02:53:33,190 --> 02:53:30,720
for sure and this is the way i've been

5189
02:53:35,349 --> 02:53:33,200
able to save my ass so far

5190
02:53:36,550 --> 02:53:35,359
i'm saying if you've got a

5191
02:53:39,190 --> 02:53:36,560
essentially what's supposed to be a

5192
02:53:41,510 --> 02:53:39,200
democracy and i'm saying even a worse

5193
02:53:43,830 --> 02:53:41,520
form of fake democracy than what people

5194
02:53:44,950 --> 02:53:43,840
claim the western world is as far as

5195
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:44,960
left right doesn't matter it's all

5196
02:53:48,469 --> 02:53:46,720
corporations for them it's oligarchs

5197
02:53:49,670 --> 02:53:48,479
it's it's rich billionaires who are

5198
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:49,680
friends with the president who has been

5199
02:53:52,950 --> 02:53:51,600
the president for the last 10 years and

5200
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:52,960
he's the richest person on the planet

5201
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:53,760
which

5202
02:53:59,030 --> 02:53:56,960
has happened because he's essentially

5203
02:54:00,790 --> 02:53:59,040
gained the entire market killed any

5204
02:54:02,389 --> 02:54:00,800
opposition

5205
02:54:03,750 --> 02:54:02,399
killed anybody who's reported anything

5206
02:54:05,429 --> 02:54:03,760
bad about him

5207
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:05,439
and has

5208
02:54:08,469 --> 02:54:06,800
the reason he has the skills and

5209
02:54:10,550 --> 02:54:08,479
knowledge and calculability to be able

5210
02:54:13,510 --> 02:54:10,560
to do this well first of all

5211
02:54:14,630 --> 02:54:13,520
i don't think he has any emotions beyond

5212
02:54:16,230 --> 02:54:14,640
you know

5213
02:54:18,950 --> 02:54:16,240
anything he shows

5214
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:18,960
but he's also a kgb trained operative so

5215
02:54:22,070 --> 02:54:20,479
he knows the game and he knows it very

5216
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:22,080
very very well

5217
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:24,800
uh and if you think if you think that

5218
02:54:27,269 --> 02:54:26,000
somebody

5219
02:54:29,269 --> 02:54:27,279
and even though the america is bad and

5220
02:54:31,670 --> 02:54:29,279
yes i know noah chomsky will say like

5221
02:54:33,590 --> 02:54:31,680
well america is like we rig elections

5222
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:33,600
and we uh overthrow people and et cetera

5223
02:54:38,070 --> 02:54:36,160
et cetera et cetera like yeah but did

5224
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:38,080
the has the president ever said go kill

5225
02:54:43,269 --> 02:54:40,560
this protester or this this uh

5226
02:54:45,110 --> 02:54:43,279
politician or this uh you know person

5227
02:54:46,950 --> 02:54:45,120
who's writing bad things about me or the

5228
02:54:48,230 --> 02:54:46,960
civil rights organizer you got people

5229
02:54:49,269 --> 02:54:48,240
who are disappearing and dropping left

5230
02:54:51,110 --> 02:54:49,279
right and center in russian they have

5231
02:54:52,389 --> 02:54:51,120
been for the last couple of years

5232
02:54:54,550 --> 02:54:52,399
like

5233
02:54:57,590 --> 02:54:54,560
you're sure people say that about ufos

5234
02:54:58,790 --> 02:54:57,600
like we pepper spray people we we

5235
02:55:00,550 --> 02:54:58,800
corral them

5236
02:55:02,790 --> 02:55:00,560
we don't outright shoot them in the head

5237
02:55:06,790 --> 02:55:02,800
and throw them out of a 15-story window

5238
02:55:09,750 --> 02:55:07,590
so

5239
02:55:10,710 --> 02:55:09,760
if you got that is it a possibility if

5240
02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:10,720
they have the same technological

5241
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:12,399
capabilities that we do

5242
02:55:16,469 --> 02:55:13,840
do you think they hacked both parties

5243
02:55:17,510 --> 02:55:16,479
and released like if especially hillary

5244
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:17,520
we uh

5245
02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:19,760
i i don't like hillary republicans hate

5246
02:55:23,670 --> 02:55:22,160
hillary

5247
02:55:25,030 --> 02:55:23,680
when it comes to russia they absolutely

5248
02:55:26,710 --> 02:55:25,040
hate hillary

5249
02:55:29,030 --> 02:55:26,720
because she screwed them over hardcore

5250
02:55:31,830 --> 02:55:29,040
and lost him a lot of money

5251
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:31,840
so i can guarantee you if i were him and

5252
02:55:35,510 --> 02:55:34,720
if i'm thinking in in putin's shoes

5253
02:55:37,510 --> 02:55:35,520
that

5254
02:55:39,750 --> 02:55:37,520
and being you know being the type of

5255
02:55:41,510 --> 02:55:39,760
person who would be spiteful and be able

5256
02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:41,520
to tell somebody off on air i could see

5257
02:55:43,830 --> 02:55:42,720
somebody who has ultimate power saying

5258
02:55:45,429 --> 02:55:43,840
yeah i'm going to use everything at my

5259
02:55:47,349 --> 02:55:45,439
disposal and every single resource that

5260
02:55:49,110 --> 02:55:47,359
i have to be able to hurt this person

5261
02:55:50,389 --> 02:55:49,120
and be able to hurt the you know hurt

5262
02:55:51,990 --> 02:55:50,399
their friends and hurt everything

5263
02:55:54,070 --> 02:55:52,000
they're about and destroy them as a

5264
02:55:55,429 --> 02:55:54,080
people because [\h__\h] you that's why and

5265
02:55:57,030 --> 02:55:55,439
if you've got the power to do it you'll

5266
02:55:58,469 --> 02:55:57,040
be able to do it if you've ever let the

5267
02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:58,479
arrow into somebody's tires if you've

5268
02:56:01,429 --> 02:56:00,160
ever spilled somebody's drink if you've

5269
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:01,439
ever just looked at somebody bad if you

5270
02:56:04,550 --> 02:56:03,439
ever close the door on somebody on the

5271
02:56:05,590 --> 02:56:04,560
bus

5272
02:56:06,710 --> 02:56:05,600
because you didn't like them or they

5273
02:56:08,469 --> 02:56:06,720
pissed you off if they scratched your

5274
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:08,479
car you basically did the exact same

5275
02:56:11,750 --> 02:56:09,920
thing now scale that up like a hundred

5276
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:11,760
trillion times that's the that's the

5277
02:56:15,030 --> 02:56:13,600
game you're dealing with so you think

5278
02:56:16,309 --> 02:56:15,040
it's not possible oh hell yeah it's

5279
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:16,319
possible the only difference is the

5280
02:56:20,630 --> 02:56:17,760
people

5281
02:56:22,710 --> 02:56:20,640
go for it no it's it no it's it's it's

5282
02:56:25,750 --> 02:56:22,720
possible but there's also the simple

5283
02:56:29,830 --> 02:56:28,309
again as i noted um it's not as though

5284
02:56:31,349 --> 02:56:29,840
we have to look for it's not as though

5285
02:56:33,190 --> 02:56:31,359
hillary clinton has to look for to find

5286
02:56:35,990 --> 02:56:33,200
the person who was most responsible for

5287
02:56:39,830 --> 02:56:36,000
her defeat she needs a mirror

5288
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:39,840
and whatever else was going on again um

5289
02:56:43,590 --> 02:56:41,760
she made the same mistakes in 2016 that

5290
02:56:45,349 --> 02:56:43,600
she made in 2008.

5291
02:56:47,190 --> 02:56:45,359
she still hasn't learned from them no

5292
02:56:51,670 --> 02:56:47,200
because she's um

5293
02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:53,750
i don't and as i've noted i don't think

5294
02:56:56,950 --> 02:56:55,359
any of us will ever know what actually

5295
02:56:59,750 --> 02:56:56,960
happened because it's going to dissolve

5296
02:57:01,750 --> 02:56:59,760
into a into a chorus of competing

5297
02:57:04,230 --> 02:57:01,760
accusations

5298
02:57:05,269 --> 02:57:04,240
and the actual fact of the matter i mean

5299
02:57:08,150 --> 02:57:05,279
there was there was something on the

5300
02:57:09,030 --> 02:57:08,160
onion which is a online humor magazine

5301
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:09,040
um

5302
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,680
where the fbi had revealed

5303
02:57:15,830 --> 02:57:13,920
they found out that al qaeda had come up

5304
02:57:19,429 --> 02:57:15,840
with sinister new plan to sit back and

5305
02:57:23,750 --> 02:57:20,870
they're ordering lots of popcorn and

5306
02:57:26,150 --> 02:57:23,760
things like that i i tend to think that

5307
02:57:28,230 --> 02:57:26,160
if poutine has a if thousand poutine has

5308
02:57:30,230 --> 02:57:28,240
a serious grudge against the united

5309
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:30,240
states which he may well

5310
02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:31,840
okay

5311
02:57:37,590 --> 02:57:34,840
he's probably laying in the popcorn

5312
02:57:41,429 --> 02:57:37,600
because i mean especially during this

5313
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:41,439
last election watching the u.s display

5314
02:57:47,830 --> 02:57:44,880
its its most embarrassing sides to

5315
02:57:50,710 --> 02:57:49,590
and you know knowing that whoever was

5316
02:57:52,710 --> 02:57:50,720
going to win

5317
02:57:54,550 --> 02:57:52,720
was going to end up with a bitterly

5318
02:57:57,110 --> 02:57:54,560
divided country

5319
02:57:59,590 --> 02:57:57,120
um a bitterly divided congress

5320
02:58:01,269 --> 02:57:59,600
a society where

5321
02:58:02,950 --> 02:58:01,279
constructive change is almost impossible

5322
02:58:07,429 --> 02:58:02,960
at this point because every issue

5323
02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:07,439
becomes caught up in these these crazed

5324
02:58:11,190 --> 02:58:08,240
um

5325
02:58:15,110 --> 02:58:11,200
partisan hatreds

5326
02:58:20,710 --> 02:58:17,110
if you know if you know your way around

5327
02:58:22,469 --> 02:58:20,720
the history of how countries fall apart

5328
02:58:24,550 --> 02:58:22,479
you look out the door it's one of those

5329
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:24,560
things look out the window in the united

5330
02:58:28,309 --> 02:58:27,439
states it's it's a messy situation

5331
02:58:29,750 --> 02:58:28,319
and

5332
02:58:31,510 --> 02:58:29,760
whatever the russians may be doing what

5333
02:58:33,590 --> 02:58:31,520
the chinese may be doing i actually if i

5334
02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:33,600
were looking for somebody to mess with

5335
02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:34,960
the united states i would expect it to

5336
02:58:37,990 --> 02:58:36,319
be china

5337
02:58:39,910 --> 02:58:38,000
um because the chinese also hold grudges

5338
02:58:44,150 --> 02:58:39,920
they hold historical grudges and the

5339
02:58:47,910 --> 02:58:46,150
has some things on it on its record when

5340
02:58:50,150 --> 02:58:47,920
it comes to china

5341
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,160
dating back to dating back to the boxer

5342
02:58:55,030 --> 02:58:52,479
of rebellion beforehand

5343
02:58:57,190 --> 02:58:55,040
and they and the thing is

5344
02:58:59,590 --> 02:58:57,200
in china ever since the revolution

5345
02:59:00,710 --> 02:58:59,600
there's been a lot of fixation which of

5346
02:59:02,389 --> 02:59:00,720
course is very heavily encouraged by

5347
02:59:04,389 --> 02:59:02,399
government propaganda on what they call

5348
02:59:07,030 --> 02:59:04,399
the century of dishonor the period from

5349
02:59:09,750 --> 02:59:07,040
1849 to 1949

5350
02:59:11,429 --> 02:59:09,760
um the whole the opium wars the boxer

5351
02:59:13,269 --> 02:59:11,439
rebellion all of the situations where

5352
02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:13,279
western countries basically carved china

5353
02:59:16,870 --> 02:59:15,600
up into spheres of influence

5354
02:59:19,830 --> 02:59:16,880
not only have they not forgotten that

5355
02:59:21,429 --> 02:59:19,840
they've turned it into a big deal

5356
02:59:24,309 --> 02:59:21,439
and so

5357
02:59:26,230 --> 02:59:24,319
yeah i would i would watch and you know

5358
02:59:28,070 --> 02:59:26,240
the thing is the united states has made

5359
02:59:30,230 --> 02:59:28,080
a lot of enemies

5360
02:59:31,670 --> 02:59:30,240
and those enemies cannot be expected to

5361
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,680
sit back on their hands and just do

5362
02:59:35,510 --> 02:59:33,439
nothing so you know yeah there's there

5363
02:59:36,630 --> 02:59:35,520
will be stuff going on but again oh

5364
02:59:39,349 --> 02:59:36,640
there's also going to be a lot of

5365
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:39,359
popcorn being popped

5366
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:41,040
because the united states is doing a

5367
02:59:45,349 --> 02:59:42,880
fine job of driving itself toward

5368
02:59:46,710 --> 02:59:45,359
destruction and it is which is very

5369
02:59:47,990 --> 02:59:46,720
unfortunate

5370
02:59:49,269 --> 02:59:48,000
and it's going to be extremely

5371
02:59:50,630 --> 02:59:49,279
unfortunate for those of us who live

5372
02:59:52,870 --> 02:59:50,640
here and probably very challenging for

5373
02:59:53,990 --> 02:59:52,880
those who live too close such as you

5374
02:59:56,150 --> 02:59:54,000
but

5375
02:59:59,349 --> 02:59:56,160
we'll see where it goes

5376
03:00:01,510 --> 02:59:59,359
okay my main thing now we are yeah we're

5377
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:01,520
coming to the to the close here but

5378
03:00:04,790 --> 03:00:03,040
there was one production that i made and

5379
03:00:05,510 --> 03:00:04,800
i think i may have made it beforehand

5380
03:00:07,510 --> 03:00:05,520
but

5381
03:00:08,710 --> 03:00:07,520
my prediction was okay you know people

5382
03:00:09,910 --> 03:00:08,720
are freaking out about this one thing

5383
03:00:11,030 --> 03:00:09,920
and i said okay trump's going to get

5384
03:00:12,790 --> 03:00:11,040
impeached

5385
03:00:14,790 --> 03:00:12,800
by 2019 you will have a civil war it

5386
03:00:16,950 --> 03:00:14,800
will start in 2019. my predict i could

5387
03:00:19,510 --> 03:00:16,960
be wrong i just have a feeling based on

5388
03:00:20,630 --> 03:00:19,520
the current fervor in the media and from

5389
03:00:22,550 --> 03:00:20,640
what i'm seeing on the street like you

5390
03:00:24,309 --> 03:00:22,560
and i are talking about this stuff and

5391
03:00:25,750 --> 03:00:24,319
it concerns us like you're you're

5392
03:00:27,269 --> 03:00:25,760
american you're

5393
03:00:29,429 --> 03:00:27,279
you know you deal with this this stuff

5394
03:00:31,269 --> 03:00:29,439
every day i'm a canadian i have like it

5395
03:00:32,950 --> 03:00:31,279
affects me on an economic level and

5396
03:00:34,469 --> 03:00:32,960
somewhat of a political level but i'm

5397
03:00:35,750 --> 03:00:34,479
not directly in the states and i it

5398
03:00:37,429 --> 03:00:35,760
affects me

5399
03:00:39,110 --> 03:00:37,439
from from a psychological level so you

5400
03:00:40,790 --> 03:00:39,120
imagine somebody who's

5401
03:00:42,230 --> 03:00:40,800
you know a completely ardent trump

5402
03:00:44,870 --> 03:00:42,240
supporter who thinks the deep state's

5403
03:00:46,150 --> 03:00:44,880
out to get them and all this and that

5404
03:00:47,429 --> 03:00:46,160
well of course you know you're going to

5405
03:00:48,710 --> 03:00:47,439
freak out a little bit same thing with

5406
03:00:50,230 --> 03:00:48,720
the democrats when you start getting

5407
03:00:51,349 --> 03:00:50,240
attacked it's like oh [\h__\h] i guess those

5408
03:00:52,389 --> 03:00:51,359
gun rights probably would have helped

5409
03:00:53,750 --> 03:00:52,399
you out huh

5410
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:53,760
um

5411
03:00:57,190 --> 03:00:55,359
so there's there might be some [\h__\h] that

5412
03:00:59,110 --> 03:00:57,200
goes down and it might be

5413
03:01:01,429 --> 03:00:59,120
whether and i think that it is going to

5414
03:01:03,830 --> 03:01:01,439
be orchestrated and if trump is still in

5415
03:01:05,190 --> 03:01:03,840
power if he does get impeached

5416
03:01:07,830 --> 03:01:05,200
the civil war will be based around the

5417
03:01:09,030 --> 03:01:07,840
fact that he will stay in power

5418
03:01:10,230 --> 03:01:09,040
and basically say like you're going to

5419
03:01:11,510 --> 03:01:10,240
impeach me or try to remove me i will

5420
03:01:14,150 --> 03:01:11,520
[\h__\h] you i'm staying in here i'm calling

5421
03:01:14,950 --> 03:01:14,160
in the rv like army here's martial law

5422
03:01:16,870 --> 03:01:14,960
you know

5423
03:01:18,230 --> 03:01:16,880
deal with it

5424
03:01:19,510 --> 03:01:18,240
it's a possibility

5425
03:01:21,590 --> 03:01:19,520
it's the timings i'm going to make a

5426
03:01:23,030 --> 03:01:21,600
competing prediction go for it

5427
03:01:24,230 --> 03:01:23,040
i'm going to make a competing production

5428
03:01:26,230 --> 03:01:24,240
i'm going to predict what's going to

5429
03:01:29,670 --> 03:01:26,240
happen is that

5430
03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:29,680
the media uproar and all the yelling is

5431
03:01:35,110 --> 03:01:33,040
entirely confined to

5432
03:01:36,710 --> 03:01:35,120
the chattering classes the the the

5433
03:01:38,710 --> 03:01:36,720
middle and upper middle classes the

5434
03:01:39,670 --> 03:01:38,720
people who think their opinions matter

5435
03:01:41,990 --> 03:01:39,680
more

5436
03:01:44,230 --> 03:01:42,000
the vast majority of americans

5437
03:01:45,830 --> 03:01:44,240
uh or the certainly enough of a majority

5438
03:01:47,110 --> 03:01:45,840
not the vast majority but a significant

5439
03:01:48,950 --> 03:01:47,120
majority of americans are going to

5440
03:01:52,070 --> 03:01:48,960
continue to support trump

5441
03:01:56,150 --> 03:01:54,790
20 and 20 in the 2018 elections

5442
03:01:58,469 --> 03:01:56,160
the republicans are going to hold their

5443
03:02:02,389 --> 03:01:58,479
own and in 2020 trump's going to be

5444
03:02:05,349 --> 03:02:02,399
re-elected by a significant majority

5445
03:02:08,469 --> 03:02:05,359
and it is going to be a total and the

5446
03:02:09,910 --> 03:02:08,479
the entire left and the center and the

5447
03:02:12,950 --> 03:02:09,920
mainstream republicans the whole

5448
03:02:15,349 --> 03:02:12,960
political establishment in 2010 in 2020

5449
03:02:18,790 --> 03:02:15,359
november 2020 is going to melt

5450
03:02:22,389 --> 03:02:18,800
down to an extent that has not been seen

5451
03:02:23,830 --> 03:02:22,399
since fdr won re-election in 1936 also

5452
03:02:25,670 --> 03:02:23,840
in the teeth of opposition from the

5453
03:02:27,429 --> 03:02:25,680
entire political class

5454
03:02:29,910 --> 03:02:27,439
that's i can't think of any other way in

5455
03:02:30,950 --> 03:02:29,920
which i would compare fdr and donald

5456
03:02:32,870 --> 03:02:30,960
trump

5457
03:02:35,190 --> 03:02:32,880
but

5458
03:02:36,630 --> 03:02:35,200
i think what's going on is a lot of

5459
03:02:39,269 --> 03:02:36,640
what's going on in the media and so on

5460
03:02:43,030 --> 03:02:39,279
it exists in an echo chamber

5461
03:02:46,469 --> 03:02:43,040
people who think that their opinions

5462
03:02:49,110 --> 03:02:46,479
matter and they just as

5463
03:02:50,790 --> 03:02:49,120
everyone i mean you realize that no

5464
03:02:54,070 --> 03:02:50,800
american

5465
03:02:56,150 --> 03:02:54,080
newspaper endorsed donald trump

5466
03:02:57,670 --> 03:02:56,160
all of them

5467
03:02:58,790 --> 03:02:57,680
endorsed either hillary or refused to

5468
03:03:00,150 --> 03:02:58,800
make an endorsement actually i think

5469
03:03:01,750 --> 03:03:00,160
there was one that enforced endorsed the

5470
03:03:04,710 --> 03:03:01,760
libertarian candidate none of them had

5471
03:03:05,910 --> 03:03:04,720
worked on endorse donald trump and 81

5472
03:03:07,990 --> 03:03:05,920
okay

5473
03:03:09,670 --> 03:03:08,000
in the same way basically there's an

5474
03:03:11,030 --> 03:03:09,680
echo chamber effect going on where all

5475
03:03:13,590 --> 03:03:11,040
the people who think their opinions

5476
03:03:14,550 --> 03:03:13,600
matter are united in their denunciation

5477
03:03:15,990 --> 03:03:14,560
of donald trump they're going to

5478
03:03:18,070 --> 03:03:16,000
criticize us they're going to criticize

5479
03:03:19,320 --> 03:03:18,080
that

5480
03:03:21,030 --> 03:03:19,330
and

5481
03:03:24,830 --> 03:03:21,040
[Applause]

5482
03:03:29,030 --> 03:03:27,670
care and so i think did this by my

5483
03:03:30,389 --> 03:03:29,040
prediction and of course i may be wrong

5484
03:03:32,309 --> 03:03:30,399
just as i could have been you know when

5485
03:03:34,710 --> 03:03:32,319
i made my prediction in january of 2016

5486
03:03:36,710 --> 03:03:34,720
about trump's election i i said that i

5487
03:03:39,670 --> 03:03:36,720
could be wrong here i may be wrong but

5488
03:03:40,630 --> 03:03:39,680
my my working guess at this point is

5489
03:03:43,030 --> 03:03:40,640
that the republicans are going to

5490
03:03:45,030 --> 03:03:43,040
basically in 2018 they're going to hold

5491
03:03:47,670 --> 03:03:45,040
on to their current majorities in in

5492
03:03:49,429 --> 03:03:47,680
congress and in 2020 trump will

5493
03:03:51,110 --> 03:03:49,439
re-election will win re-election by a

5494
03:03:52,950 --> 03:03:51,120
significant margin

5495
03:03:55,510 --> 03:03:52,960
i don't think it'll be a landslide but i

5496
03:03:57,110 --> 03:03:55,520
think it'll be a significant margin

5497
03:03:58,550 --> 03:03:57,120
and then

5498
03:04:00,469 --> 03:03:58,560
things are going to get again we're

5499
03:04:01,990 --> 03:04:00,479
going to see a world-class screeching

5500
03:04:05,429 --> 03:04:02,000
meltdown and

5501
03:04:09,510 --> 03:04:07,590
okay so at least and you're going on

5502
03:04:11,510 --> 03:04:09,520
record here as stating that trump i know

5503
03:04:13,590 --> 03:04:11,520
i'm going i'm going on the record my

5504
03:04:15,110 --> 03:04:13,600
yeah that's i'm going on the record here

5505
03:04:17,269 --> 03:04:15,120
that's my prediction at this point

5506
03:04:18,389 --> 03:04:17,279
things could change but as we're now

5507
03:04:21,429 --> 03:04:18,399
going

5508
03:04:22,389 --> 03:04:21,439
you know i'm enough of a cynic to be

5509
03:04:24,309 --> 03:04:22,399
able to say it's like yeah i can see

5510
03:04:26,389 --> 03:04:24,319
that [\h__\h] happening and

5511
03:04:28,469 --> 03:04:26,399
i'll laugh it'll suck

5512
03:04:29,750 --> 03:04:28,479
and some some comedians say

5513
03:04:31,830 --> 03:04:29,760
the person who will benefit the most

5514
03:04:34,950 --> 03:04:31,840
from this apparently so far will be

5515
03:04:36,630 --> 03:04:34,960
colbert because his ratings have gone so

5516
03:04:38,389 --> 03:04:36,640
far up

5517
03:04:43,590 --> 03:04:38,399
generally speaking

5518
03:04:45,990 --> 03:04:43,600
been an absolute godsend to come to to

5519
03:04:47,750 --> 03:04:46,000
comedians and to the media

5520
03:04:49,030 --> 03:04:47,760
because every time he opens his mouth he

5521
03:04:51,030 --> 03:04:49,040
says something that deserves a news

5522
03:04:53,590 --> 03:04:51,040
story exactly because his bol as i said

5523
03:04:55,670 --> 03:04:53,600
he's an idiot of course

5524
03:04:56,870 --> 03:04:55,680
yeah you know he did but the the thing

5525
03:04:58,469 --> 03:04:56,880
is

5526
03:05:01,110 --> 03:04:58,479
there are there have been times i mean

5527
03:05:02,950 --> 03:05:01,120
like big the whole bigly business

5528
03:05:04,630 --> 03:05:02,960
i honestly thought at several points

5529
03:05:06,710 --> 03:05:04,640
during the campaign that he was

5530
03:05:09,429 --> 03:05:06,720
deliberately saying things to try to

5531
03:05:11,030 --> 03:05:09,439
whip up the mainstream media into a

5532
03:05:13,429 --> 03:05:11,040
cluckfest

5533
03:05:15,429 --> 03:05:13,439
because that would make be i mean the

5534
03:05:17,510 --> 03:05:15,439
thing is the me the mass media in the

5535
03:05:19,030 --> 03:05:17,520
united states in terms of in their the

5536
03:05:21,830 --> 03:05:19,040
general population

5537
03:05:22,870 --> 03:05:21,840
um considers the mass media to be

5538
03:05:24,150 --> 03:05:22,880
um

5539
03:05:26,309 --> 03:05:24,160
morally

5540
03:05:28,469 --> 03:05:26,319
several notches below street prostitutes

5541
03:05:30,230 --> 03:05:28,479
and drug dealers

5542
03:05:32,950 --> 03:05:30,240
nobody trusts them and for very good

5543
03:05:34,070 --> 03:05:32,960
reason

5544
03:05:36,790 --> 03:05:34,080
when i was

5545
03:05:39,190 --> 03:05:36,800
took russian took the russian language

5546
03:05:41,190 --> 03:05:39,200
we had we actually had in seattle

5547
03:05:42,469 --> 03:05:41,200
which is where i grew up we had russian

5548
03:05:44,150 --> 03:05:42,479
classes in the high school that i went

5549
03:05:46,469 --> 03:05:44,160
to and so i studied russian every so

5550
03:05:49,429 --> 03:05:46,479
often we would get caught when in third

5551
03:05:51,190 --> 03:05:49,439
year we would get copies of pravda okay

5552
03:05:52,389 --> 03:05:51,200
and this is during the during the during

5553
03:05:53,750 --> 03:05:52,399
the soviet union this kind of stuff we

5554
03:05:55,830 --> 03:05:53,760
get these copies of prophet we go

5555
03:06:00,230 --> 03:05:55,840
through the prophet we pick we you know

5556
03:06:02,469 --> 03:06:00,240
read these stories and they were absurd

5557
03:06:04,790 --> 03:06:02,479
you know a glorious you know glorious on

5558
03:06:06,309 --> 03:06:04,800
people's republic of afghanistan you

5559
03:06:09,269 --> 03:06:06,319
know

5560
03:06:12,870 --> 03:06:09,279
these completely ridiculous political

5561
03:06:15,030 --> 03:06:12,880
propaganda masquerading news okay

5562
03:06:16,870 --> 03:06:15,040
if i go out and pick up um the the

5563
03:06:17,830 --> 03:06:16,880
washington post

5564
03:06:19,990 --> 03:06:17,840
right now

5565
03:06:23,190 --> 03:06:20,000
i see identical stories

5566
03:06:25,910 --> 03:06:23,200
just as slanted just as absurd

5567
03:06:27,590 --> 03:06:25,920
just as disconnected from people's lives

5568
03:06:28,790 --> 03:06:27,600
i mean there are people i'm not the only

5569
03:06:30,230 --> 03:06:28,800
one who's saying this

5570
03:06:32,309 --> 03:06:30,240
these days the wapo is being called

5571
03:06:34,150 --> 03:06:32,319
pravda on the potomac by a significant

5572
03:06:34,950 --> 03:06:34,160
number of people and for good reason and

5573
03:06:35,990 --> 03:06:34,960
i've heard the same thing about

5574
03:06:37,830 --> 03:06:36,000
breitbart i've heard the same thing

5575
03:06:39,750 --> 03:06:37,840
about fox news it's

5576
03:06:40,469 --> 03:06:39,760
exactly and the thing is that that's the

5577
03:06:42,309 --> 03:06:40,479
thing

5578
03:06:44,070 --> 03:06:42,319
all of our news media not just the left

5579
03:06:46,309 --> 03:06:44,080
stuff the left the right the center of

5580
03:06:48,150 --> 03:06:46,319
the whole nine yards it's all become

5581
03:06:50,550 --> 03:06:48,160
this sort of brain dead absurdist

5582
03:06:54,230 --> 03:06:50,560
propaganda

5583
03:06:56,950 --> 03:06:54,240
and so most people no longer take their

5584
03:06:58,230 --> 03:06:56,960
opinions from the media if anything they

5585
03:07:00,309 --> 03:06:58,240
look at what the media is saying they

5586
03:07:01,990 --> 03:07:00,319
believe something else

5587
03:07:03,750 --> 03:07:02,000
and so again all of this media

5588
03:07:05,830 --> 03:07:03,760
screeching about donald trump may

5589
03:07:07,190 --> 03:07:05,840
actually strengthen him

5590
03:07:08,710 --> 03:07:07,200
because people

5591
03:07:10,230 --> 03:07:08,720
instinctively distrust the media this

5592
03:07:11,830 --> 03:07:10,240
but they know they're being lied to

5593
03:07:13,349 --> 03:07:11,840
they're being lied to by the breitbart

5594
03:07:15,269 --> 03:07:13,359
and fox news they're being lied to by

5595
03:07:18,550 --> 03:07:15,279
the wapo in the new york times they're

5596
03:07:20,389 --> 03:07:18,560
being lied to by the entire industry

5597
03:07:22,389 --> 03:07:20,399
because i mean the american news media

5598
03:07:24,950 --> 03:07:22,399
is there to sell soap it's not there to

5599
03:07:26,950 --> 03:07:24,960
communicate facts

5600
03:07:27,750 --> 03:07:26,960
i know i've read the book

5601
03:07:29,269 --> 03:07:27,760
um

5602
03:07:30,950 --> 03:07:29,279
but it's it was part it was part of our

5603
03:07:34,550 --> 03:07:30,960
like advertising

5604
03:07:36,950 --> 03:07:34,560
first year of college

5605
03:07:38,309 --> 03:07:36,960
was the history of advertising and a lot

5606
03:07:40,070 --> 03:07:38,319
of it was okay how do you sell this soap

5607
03:07:41,750 --> 03:07:40,080
like palm olive it was it's palm and

5608
03:07:43,349 --> 03:07:41,760
olive okay well you call it palm olive

5609
03:07:45,110 --> 03:07:43,359
and you want to your hands feel

5610
03:07:47,349 --> 03:07:45,120
beautiful afterwards they didn't focus

5611
03:07:49,670 --> 03:07:47,359
on the fact that it made the dishes

5612
03:07:52,230 --> 03:07:49,680
look good no they they create they

5613
03:07:55,110 --> 03:07:52,240
created some kind of some kind of

5614
03:07:57,269 --> 03:07:55,120
imaginary linkage between the product

5615
03:08:00,230 --> 03:07:57,279
and a desire

5616
03:08:01,830 --> 03:08:00,240
and and just and hammered on that

5617
03:08:03,429 --> 03:08:01,840
even in the most absurd ways it didn't

5618
03:08:05,590 --> 03:08:03,439
matter it's magic

5619
03:08:08,230 --> 03:08:05,600
um johann koliano

5620
03:08:10,150 --> 03:08:08,240
who is a brilliant romanian student of a

5621
03:08:12,070 --> 03:08:10,160
scholar of magical writings who

5622
03:08:13,910 --> 03:08:12,080
long complex story there he wrote a book

5623
03:08:15,990 --> 03:08:13,920
called um

5624
03:08:17,990 --> 03:08:16,000
eros and magic in the renaissance

5625
03:08:19,510 --> 03:08:18,000
and one of the things he argued in this

5626
03:08:22,389 --> 03:08:19,520
book is that modern advertising is a

5627
03:08:24,070 --> 03:08:22,399
debased form of magic

5628
03:08:25,510 --> 03:08:24,080
there must be some go it must be why i'm

5629
03:08:27,590 --> 03:08:25,520
so good at it then

5630
03:08:29,269 --> 03:08:27,600
well there we go yeah you see

5631
03:08:31,910 --> 03:08:29,279
because advertising is again is

5632
03:08:34,550 --> 03:08:31,920
basically targeting people's

5633
03:08:35,670 --> 03:08:34,560
irrational desires linking products or

5634
03:08:37,910 --> 03:08:35,680
services or whatever you're trying to

5635
03:08:40,710 --> 03:08:37,920
advertise to that desire in a

5636
03:08:42,469 --> 03:08:40,720
non-rational linkage

5637
03:08:44,309 --> 03:08:42,479
so that people end up with this bizarre

5638
03:08:45,990 --> 03:08:44,319
notion they can achieve happiness by

5639
03:08:46,870 --> 03:08:46,000
guzzling fizzy brown sugar water or

5640
03:08:49,510 --> 03:08:46,880
something

5641
03:08:51,590 --> 03:08:49,520
well even even then it's people will

5642
03:08:53,670 --> 03:08:51,600
they will run away from fear more than

5643
03:08:55,830 --> 03:08:53,680
they will go towards pleasure

5644
03:08:57,349 --> 03:08:55,840
unless it is a fantasy which then they

5645
03:08:59,990 --> 03:08:57,359
will run towards pleasure and away from

5646
03:09:02,309 --> 03:09:00,000
fear you use yeah exactly

5647
03:09:04,150 --> 03:09:02,319
advertising luxury products take every

5648
03:09:06,070 --> 03:09:04,160
single uh marketing and advertising

5649
03:09:07,429 --> 03:09:06,080
principle you will ever learn toss it

5650
03:09:09,349 --> 03:09:07,439
right out the window completely

5651
03:09:11,750 --> 03:09:09,359
different ball game because

5652
03:09:16,469 --> 03:09:15,349
yeah and so but but it's it's all

5653
03:09:18,630 --> 03:09:16,479
um

5654
03:09:20,550 --> 03:09:18,640
it's a it's a manipulative form of magic

5655
03:09:21,750 --> 03:09:20,560
it's a form of magic that is not you

5656
03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:21,760
know i was talking earlier about

5657
03:09:23,990 --> 03:09:23,120
changing yourself rather than changing

5658
03:09:25,910 --> 03:09:24,000
the world

5659
03:09:27,990 --> 03:09:25,920
advertising isn't designed to make

5660
03:09:30,389 --> 03:09:28,000
people not change themselves

5661
03:09:32,150 --> 03:09:30,399
it's designed to make people want

5662
03:09:33,510 --> 03:09:32,160
something outside themselves rather than

5663
03:09:34,630 --> 03:09:33,520
paying attention to the sources of their

5664
03:09:36,950 --> 03:09:34,640
power and their happiness within

5665
03:09:39,110 --> 03:09:36,960
themselves and so to a certain extent

5666
03:09:40,230 --> 03:09:39,120
evil magic

5667
03:09:42,790 --> 03:09:40,240
now i understand why people hate

5668
03:09:44,469 --> 03:09:42,800
advertising so much i'm like

5669
03:09:45,750 --> 03:09:44,479
and deservedly it's manipulative it's an

5670
03:09:46,870 --> 03:09:45,760
attempt to control them well you're

5671
03:09:49,030 --> 03:09:46,880
you're you're

5672
03:09:50,309 --> 03:09:49,040
you're changing behavior and i i i well

5673
03:09:52,150 --> 03:09:50,319
exactly

5674
03:09:54,550 --> 03:09:52,160
when i was in college i actually

5675
03:09:56,710 --> 03:09:54,560
wrote a but when i founded my first

5676
03:09:58,469 --> 03:09:56,720
agency and i did it in uh

5677
03:10:00,630 --> 03:09:58,479
second semester first year

5678
03:10:01,910 --> 03:10:00,640
and i said okay well i didn't like

5679
03:10:03,349 --> 03:10:01,920
anything that was going on look at all

5680
03:10:05,030 --> 03:10:03,359
the advertisers that were out there just

5681
03:10:06,710 --> 03:10:05,040
like i can do better than you because

5682
03:10:09,269 --> 03:10:06,720
especially in my city i love ottawa to

5683
03:10:10,790 --> 03:10:09,279
death and i'm sorry i'll sit like i'm

5684
03:10:13,110 --> 03:10:10,800
making good money working for myself as

5685
03:10:16,070 --> 03:10:13,120
a single man operation and most of the

5686
03:10:16,870 --> 03:10:16,080
advertising agencies here in ottawa

5687
03:10:19,190 --> 03:10:16,880
if

5688
03:10:21,670 --> 03:10:19,200
i walk in there it's like

5689
03:10:23,830 --> 03:10:21,680
like you're you won't hire me why

5690
03:10:26,550 --> 03:10:23,840
because i don't fit into your crowd but

5691
03:10:28,790 --> 03:10:26,560
you're producing [\h__\h] i could do this

5692
03:10:30,389 --> 03:10:28,800
hung over the next day like you just

5693
03:10:32,230 --> 03:10:30,399
explained why they're not hiring you

5694
03:10:34,550 --> 03:10:32,240
well there is you would compete with you

5695
03:10:36,070 --> 03:10:34,560
would compete with them so i wrote i

5696
03:10:37,910 --> 03:10:36,080
wrote a bill of rights like i wrote a

5697
03:10:40,550 --> 03:10:37,920
hit like a hippocratic oath for

5698
03:10:41,910 --> 03:10:40,560
advertising that essentially would like

5699
03:10:43,590 --> 03:10:41,920
if you're going to use advertising use

5700
03:10:45,429 --> 03:10:43,600
it for the positive benefits and here's

5701
03:10:47,830 --> 03:10:45,439
a positive system to be able to use it

5702
03:10:50,230 --> 03:10:47,840
where you go towards like for instance

5703
03:10:51,349 --> 03:10:50,240
the idea of a scantily clad women to

5704
03:10:53,429 --> 03:10:51,359
sell beer

5705
03:10:55,030 --> 03:10:53,439
or what we have here like canadian tire

5706
03:10:56,469 --> 03:10:55,040
which is like the canadian or the

5707
03:10:58,469 --> 03:10:56,479
american

5708
03:11:01,190 --> 03:10:58,479
well like what

5709
03:11:02,550 --> 03:11:01,200
i don't think you have in america but

5710
03:11:04,230 --> 03:11:02,560
a big tire

5711
03:11:05,750 --> 03:11:04,240
it's like walmart here in canada and

5712
03:11:07,269 --> 03:11:05,760
more of a canadian theme they have this

5713
03:11:10,230 --> 03:11:07,279
entire campaign for a number of years

5714
03:11:12,870 --> 03:11:10,240
they they stopped doing it now thank god

5715
03:11:14,550 --> 03:11:12,880
where essentially the like the and it

5716
03:11:17,110 --> 03:11:14,560
sort of it went with the whole everybody

5717
03:11:19,190 --> 03:11:17,120
loves raymond trend where the husband

5718
03:11:20,950 --> 03:11:19,200
and the man was a complete [\h__\h] idiot

5719
03:11:22,469 --> 03:11:20,960
couldn't do anything goddamn right and

5720
03:11:25,349 --> 03:11:22,479
the wife was always right and it's like

5721
03:11:27,110 --> 03:11:25,359
not only was was she right she's like

5722
03:11:29,190 --> 03:11:27,120
would make fun of him because he is

5723
03:11:30,950 --> 03:11:29,200
wrong for making that choice and

5724
03:11:32,309 --> 03:11:30,960
obviously she knows right and anything

5725
03:11:34,230 --> 03:11:32,319
he could do and you know that that was

5726
03:11:36,230 --> 03:11:34,240
that essential thing so it's like okay

5727
03:11:38,790 --> 03:11:36,240
don't like stop with all this gender

5728
03:11:39,990 --> 03:11:38,800
like division [\h__\h] go towards the

5729
03:11:41,429 --> 03:11:40,000
product look at the product what is the

5730
03:11:42,790 --> 03:11:41,439
benefit that makes your life better

5731
03:11:45,190 --> 03:11:42,800
focus on the positives and how it will

5732
03:11:47,830 --> 03:11:45,200
make your life better that's it don't

5733
03:11:49,830 --> 03:11:47,840
deal with any negatives yes and that's

5734
03:11:51,830 --> 03:11:49,840
that's that's very ethical and very

5735
03:11:53,190 --> 03:11:51,840
sweet and the problem is of course that

5736
03:11:55,269 --> 03:11:53,200
at this point most new products don't

5737
03:11:56,790 --> 03:11:55,279
make your life better most new products

5738
03:11:59,510 --> 03:11:56,800
actually do

5739
03:12:00,309 --> 03:11:59,520
progress no longer means improvement

5740
03:12:02,309 --> 03:12:00,319
um

5741
03:12:03,990 --> 03:12:02,319
a new product typically will do a worse

5742
03:12:05,670 --> 03:12:04,000
job of what it replaces it will cost you

5743
03:12:07,590 --> 03:12:05,680
more have more side effects have more

5744
03:12:08,870 --> 03:12:07,600
externalized costs that are burdening

5745
03:12:09,670 --> 03:12:08,880
you know it just

5746
03:12:11,990 --> 03:12:09,680
so

5747
03:12:14,870 --> 03:12:12,000
that's the the problem with

5748
03:12:16,230 --> 03:12:14,880
um you know industrialism in in extremis

5749
03:12:17,590 --> 03:12:16,240
and there's a whole there's a whole

5750
03:12:19,030 --> 03:12:17,600
other conversation which we could have

5751
03:12:20,870 --> 03:12:19,040
now if we had time

5752
03:12:23,110 --> 03:12:20,880
i would agree with that except i went

5753
03:12:24,550 --> 03:12:23,120
from a blackberry priv to an iphone 7

5754
03:12:26,309 --> 03:12:24,560
plus and i could i could tell you it's a

5755
03:12:29,349 --> 03:12:26,319
lot better you've got one yeah that's

5756
03:12:32,389 --> 03:12:29,359
you see everyone goes to the one

5757
03:12:34,309 --> 03:12:32,399
example of one of the few technologies

5758
03:12:37,670 --> 03:12:34,319
that has actually improved during that

5759
03:12:39,269 --> 03:12:37,680
time okay think of um

5760
03:12:41,670 --> 03:12:39,279
think of what's happened to

5761
03:12:43,030 --> 03:12:41,680
product quality and food for example oh

5762
03:12:46,790 --> 03:12:43,040
yeah in many you know the here i don't

5763
03:12:48,790 --> 03:12:46,800
know in many uh you're up in canada here

5764
03:12:50,790 --> 03:12:48,800
every year the passes the packages get

5765
03:12:52,950 --> 03:12:50,800
just a bit smaller the quality gets just

5766
03:12:54,550 --> 03:12:52,960
a bit lower when something is advertised

5767
03:12:55,910 --> 03:12:54,560
new and improved it may be new but it's

5768
03:12:57,750 --> 03:12:55,920
not improved

5769
03:13:00,230 --> 03:12:57,760
um look at our automobiles which fall

5770
03:13:01,830 --> 03:13:00,240
apart

5771
03:13:03,750 --> 03:13:01,840
generally consumer goods at this point

5772
03:13:05,269 --> 03:13:03,760
are pieces of crap compared to what they

5773
03:13:09,349 --> 03:13:05,279
were even 10 years ago

5774
03:13:11,750 --> 03:13:09,359
and every with the sole exception of the

5775
03:13:13,269 --> 03:13:11,760
handful of consumer products where

5776
03:13:15,510 --> 03:13:13,279
actual technical innovation is still

5777
03:13:16,710 --> 03:13:15,520
taking place computer scene or you know

5778
03:13:19,590 --> 03:13:16,720
things like

5779
03:13:20,630 --> 03:13:19,600
um smartphones being among them

5780
03:13:22,790 --> 03:13:20,640
okay

5781
03:13:24,469 --> 03:13:22,800
but it's because progress is such a

5782
03:13:26,070 --> 03:13:24,479
mythology among us because it is a

5783
03:13:27,910 --> 03:13:26,080
religion to believe that technological

5784
03:13:30,550 --> 03:13:27,920
progress will save us everyone makes a

5785
03:13:32,150 --> 03:13:30,560
beeline for those handful examples and

5786
03:13:34,550 --> 03:13:32,160
uses that to ignore what's happening in

5787
03:13:36,630 --> 03:13:34,560
the rest of the life that also is evil

5788
03:13:38,710 --> 03:13:36,640
magic

5789
03:13:40,710 --> 03:13:38,720
holy [\h__\h] that's the spell that's the

5790
03:13:42,309 --> 03:13:40,720
spell you're under the spell that makes

5791
03:13:45,030 --> 03:13:42,319
you look at the few things that would

5792
03:13:50,550 --> 03:13:45,040
justify the claim and away from all the

5793
03:13:56,070 --> 03:13:52,630
i'm having a kind of a revelation which

5794
03:13:58,150 --> 03:13:56,080
the whole part of this show

5795
03:13:59,750 --> 03:13:58,160
wow

5796
03:14:01,670 --> 03:13:59,760
that being said i know it's midnight i

5797
03:14:03,830 --> 03:14:01,680
do what i can

5798
03:14:06,070 --> 03:14:03,840
i love having you on the show

5799
03:14:07,990 --> 03:14:06,080
brother well hi goodness what hey thank

5800
03:14:10,710 --> 03:14:08,000
you let us we can we can schedule

5801
03:14:12,229 --> 03:14:10,720
another time i have more books coming in

5802
03:14:14,229 --> 03:14:12,239
you know what that's i know you've got

5803
03:14:15,510 --> 03:14:14,239
october coming out a couple if you check

5804
03:14:17,830 --> 03:14:15,520
out amazon

5805
03:14:18,870 --> 03:14:17,840
some fantastic tomes i need to get my

5806
03:14:19,670 --> 03:14:18,880
hands on

5807
03:14:21,830 --> 03:14:19,680
um

5808
03:14:22,830 --> 03:14:21,840
let me let me see what i can get you it

5809
03:14:25,750 --> 03:14:22,840
would be much

5810
03:14:28,469 --> 03:14:25,760
appreciated sample copy yeah i can i can

5811
03:14:30,309 --> 03:14:28,479
shake loose the occasional review copy

5812
03:14:31,990 --> 03:14:30,319
but still one of the most even though is

5813
03:14:33,830 --> 03:14:32,000
very controversial one of the most

5814
03:14:35,670 --> 03:14:33,840
stimulating conversations i've had with

5815
03:14:37,670 --> 03:14:35,680
a guest on here in quite some time and

5816
03:14:38,630 --> 03:14:37,680
of course it's going to be from

5817
03:14:40,150 --> 03:14:38,640
a a

5818
03:14:42,870 --> 03:14:40,160
fellow freemason a fellow brother a

5819
03:14:44,550 --> 03:14:42,880
fellow seeker of truth and

5820
03:14:46,070 --> 03:14:44,560
one of the most generally nice people

5821
03:14:47,429 --> 03:14:46,080
that i actually have the pleasure of

5822
03:14:48,790 --> 03:14:47,439
ever talking to

5823
03:14:50,309 --> 03:14:48,800
uh the fact you come on the show

5824
03:14:53,510 --> 03:14:50,319
considering how much i swear it is part

5825
03:14:54,870 --> 03:14:53,520
of the act to a certain extent

5826
03:14:56,710 --> 03:14:54,880
creative people we swear a lot i'm

5827
03:14:59,830 --> 03:14:56,720
canadian i drink a lot of scotch that's

5828
03:15:03,750 --> 03:15:01,269
it's it's a lot of fun and this is the

5829
03:15:05,190 --> 03:15:03,760
whole idea of rollback month

5830
03:15:07,030 --> 03:15:05,200
yeah i have enjoyed this evening

5831
03:15:07,750 --> 03:15:07,040
eventually it's much appreciated thank

5832
03:15:10,469 --> 03:15:07,760
you

5833
03:15:11,830 --> 03:15:10,479
uh now i i know that uh denver michael's

5834
03:15:12,790 --> 03:15:11,840
we have a sandwich contest that we're

5835
03:15:15,510 --> 03:15:12,800
actually supposed to be announcing the

5836
03:15:18,790 --> 03:15:15,520
winners of and like but now but probably

5837
03:15:19,670 --> 03:15:18,800
about now um so just to give you a brief

5838
03:15:22,469 --> 03:15:19,680
overview

5839
03:15:24,870 --> 03:15:22,479
the last time you were on was

5840
03:15:26,150 --> 03:15:24,880
january sometime i believe

5841
03:15:27,510 --> 03:15:26,160
it was like that yeah okay so around

5842
03:15:29,190 --> 03:15:27,520
that time we actually announced what was

5843
03:15:30,950 --> 03:15:29,200
called the send denver michaels a

5844
03:15:33,030 --> 03:15:30,960
sandwich contest now you mentioned west

5845
03:15:34,790 --> 03:15:33,040
virginia and virginia now denver

5846
03:15:36,790 --> 03:15:34,800
michaels is a contributor to the show he

5847
03:15:37,590 --> 03:15:36,800
does her cryptozoology report

5848
03:15:39,670 --> 03:15:37,600
uh

5849
03:15:41,670 --> 03:15:39,680
he's an amazing man my mom loves him

5850
03:15:43,269 --> 03:15:41,680
just because of his his southern drawl

5851
03:15:44,550 --> 03:15:43,279
is is like velvet

5852
03:15:46,630 --> 03:15:44,560
oh my goodness

5853
03:15:48,469 --> 03:15:46,640
amazing man a good person great writer

5854
03:15:49,990 --> 03:15:48,479
and a very skeptical cryptozoologist so

5855
03:15:51,830 --> 03:15:50,000
he goes out in the field a lot i'm like

5856
03:15:53,830 --> 03:15:51,840
okay you know what denver you're new to

5857
03:15:55,590 --> 03:15:53,840
the field you write some good books i

5858
03:15:57,269 --> 03:15:55,600
like the cut of your jib we're going to

5859
03:15:58,870 --> 03:15:57,279
support you and we're going to get your

5860
03:16:00,150 --> 03:15:58,880
name out there and we're going to make

5861
03:16:01,670 --> 03:16:00,160
sure that people know who you are

5862
03:16:02,389 --> 03:16:01,680
because you i believe that you are that

5863
03:16:03,910 --> 03:16:02,399
awesome

5864
03:16:05,429 --> 03:16:03,920
so i said we're going to make sure you

5865
03:16:07,269 --> 03:16:05,439
are well fed while out in the field

5866
03:16:09,110 --> 03:16:07,279
we're going to run a sandwich contest so

5867
03:16:12,150 --> 03:16:09,120
people have been sending in their

5868
03:16:13,190 --> 03:16:12,160
sandwich recipes for the last six months

5869
03:16:15,030 --> 03:16:13,200
six months

5870
03:16:16,469 --> 03:16:15,040
good bad

5871
03:16:18,469 --> 03:16:16,479
doesn't matter

5872
03:16:19,750 --> 03:16:18,479
and he's been trying out every single

5873
03:16:21,429 --> 03:16:19,760
one

5874
03:16:24,469 --> 03:16:21,439
posting it on his twitter account that's

5875
03:16:26,630 --> 03:16:24,479
great and the winner of the show gets

5876
03:16:27,750 --> 03:16:26,640
three of his signed books like hard

5877
03:16:29,830 --> 03:16:27,760
copies

5878
03:16:31,429 --> 03:16:29,840
like uh and they're all about crypto

5879
03:16:33,910 --> 03:16:31,439
like a

5880
03:16:35,750 --> 03:16:33,920
cryptids so south american north

5881
03:16:37,030 --> 03:16:35,760
american west virginia he's got like

5882
03:16:39,269 --> 03:16:37,040
mothman

5883
03:16:41,670 --> 03:16:39,279
uh ogopogo you name it yeah it's got it

5884
03:16:44,229 --> 03:16:41,680
riveting stuff uh has gone to the amazon

5885
03:16:46,150 --> 03:16:44,239
his search for the giant anacondas

5886
03:16:48,229 --> 03:16:46,160
i'm gonna have to read this guy i i was

5887
03:16:49,269 --> 03:16:48,239
i was a major fan of cryptozoology when

5888
03:16:51,030 --> 03:16:49,279
i was in my teen years i haven't

5889
03:16:52,070 --> 03:16:51,040
followed anything like an enough in

5890
03:16:53,830 --> 03:16:52,080
recent years so i will definitely

5891
03:16:55,269 --> 03:16:53,840
definitely hunt down hunt up his books

5892
03:16:57,429 --> 03:16:55,279
and read him you know i'll i'll connect

5893
03:16:58,870 --> 03:16:57,439
you with him and and get uh you know get

5894
03:17:00,790 --> 03:16:58,880
you guys together because he's he's a

5895
03:17:02,070 --> 03:17:00,800
good man and he comes from a very

5896
03:17:04,070 --> 03:17:02,080
skeptical view

5897
03:17:05,349 --> 03:17:04,080
and he loves he loves ancient history

5898
03:17:06,630 --> 03:17:05,359
loves and

5899
03:17:09,030 --> 03:17:06,640
at one point we'll talk about giants on

5900
03:17:10,389 --> 03:17:09,040
the show and you know it's a big thing

5901
03:17:11,269 --> 03:17:10,399
for him so

5902
03:17:12,309 --> 03:17:11,279
yo

5903
03:17:13,190 --> 03:17:12,319
that's the whole thing that's the next

5904
03:17:14,790 --> 03:17:13,200
segment

5905
03:17:16,309 --> 03:17:14,800
i know i've kept you up a lot longer

5906
03:17:17,349 --> 03:17:16,319
than i said that it was going to but

5907
03:17:19,429 --> 03:17:17,359
honestly

5908
03:17:20,950 --> 03:17:19,439
i'm it's been known to happen

5909
03:17:22,229 --> 03:17:20,960
well you get you get free masons

5910
03:17:24,389 --> 03:17:22,239
together and some scotch and you talk

5911
03:17:25,670 --> 03:17:24,399
about magic and esotericism and you know

5912
03:17:28,229 --> 03:17:25,680
two days goes by and you're like well

5913
03:17:30,630 --> 03:17:28,239
when when did lodge tile oh boy

5914
03:17:32,950 --> 03:17:30,640
what happened to the time

5915
03:17:34,710 --> 03:17:32,960
how long were those minutes uh secretary

5916
03:17:36,550 --> 03:17:34,720
um and what about the correspondence

5917
03:17:39,110 --> 03:17:36,560
everyone's like oh

5918
03:17:41,429 --> 03:17:39,120
here we go grand lodge says this oh my

5919
03:17:43,349 --> 03:17:41,439
god okay so we can't drink anymore while

5920
03:17:44,550 --> 03:17:43,359
lodge is actually happening we know that

5921
03:17:46,710 --> 03:17:44,560
thank you

5922
03:17:48,309 --> 03:17:46,720
good to go um

5923
03:17:50,150 --> 03:17:48,319
ladies and gentlemen

5924
03:17:53,030 --> 03:17:50,160
with what will probably go down as one

5925
03:17:54,469 --> 03:17:53,040
of the wildest and and i'm probably

5926
03:17:55,830 --> 03:17:54,479
gonna get some hate mail from this one

5927
03:17:57,349 --> 03:17:55,840
and some love mail and then some hate

5928
03:17:59,670 --> 03:17:57,359
mail and some love mail

5929
03:18:01,349 --> 03:17:59,680
either way it was a pleasure

5930
03:18:03,349 --> 03:18:01,359
you you

5931
03:18:05,190 --> 03:18:03,359
just just a fabulously fabulously

5932
03:18:07,030 --> 03:18:05,200
wonderful conversationist and well thank

5933
03:18:08,550 --> 03:18:07,040
you very much i i as i mentioned i

5934
03:18:10,790 --> 03:18:08,560
enjoyed a great deal

5935
03:18:12,070 --> 03:18:10,800
marvelous way this made it evening

5936
03:18:13,590 --> 03:18:12,080
as long as you're entertained we're

5937
03:18:15,429 --> 03:18:13,600
entertained the people are entertained

5938
03:18:17,670 --> 03:18:15,439
and again you stepped in two days on two

5939
03:18:19,269 --> 03:18:17,680
days notice and uh you can't you came to

5940
03:18:20,830 --> 03:18:19,279
i have the evening freak oh my goodness

5941
03:18:22,710 --> 03:18:20,840
well that's appreciated

5942
03:18:25,590 --> 03:18:22,720
um so

5943
03:18:26,950 --> 03:18:25,600
again uh sleep well and um thank you i

5944
03:18:29,510 --> 03:18:26,960
will do that

5945
03:18:31,349 --> 03:18:29,520
uh so i'm just before you games

5946
03:18:33,190 --> 03:18:31,359
we will talk soon perfect i'm just going

5947
03:18:34,309 --> 03:18:33,200
to get uh denver's music on here before

5948
03:18:36,950 --> 03:18:34,319
i'm making sure i'm not going to play

5949
03:18:38,870 --> 03:18:36,960
the birthday music there we go

5950
03:18:39,990 --> 03:18:38,880
uh so uh ladies and gentlemen that's uh

5951
03:18:41,590 --> 03:18:40,000
uh uh

5952
03:18:43,750 --> 03:18:41,600
john michael greer again you can check

5953
03:18:46,070 --> 03:18:43,760
his books out as well as uh the druid

5954
03:18:47,429 --> 03:18:46,080
report uh the links are in

5955
03:18:48,790 --> 03:18:47,439
the

5956
03:18:50,710 --> 03:18:48,800
show notes

5957
03:18:52,970 --> 03:18:50,720
so again have yourself a wonderful

5958
03:19:01,190 --> 03:18:52,980
evening

5959
03:19:05,990 --> 03:19:03,670
now ladies and gentlemen

5960
03:19:07,750 --> 03:19:06,000
let me say this much this contest we

5961
03:19:09,190 --> 03:19:07,760
started this out

5962
03:19:10,790 --> 03:19:09,200
to be frank

5963
03:19:12,870 --> 03:19:10,800
i'm like what is the most ridiculous

5964
03:19:16,150 --> 03:19:12,880
thing i can possibly do

5965
03:19:19,830 --> 03:19:17,910
i'm gonna say this much uh the winner of

5966
03:19:23,030 --> 03:19:19,840
this contest is actually going to win a

5967
03:19:24,229 --> 03:19:23,040
guest host slot with our laird scranton

5968
03:19:25,429 --> 03:19:24,239
episode

5969
03:19:27,750 --> 03:19:25,439
in two weeks

5970
03:19:30,309 --> 03:19:27,760
that is a bonus i'm throwing in there

5971
03:19:31,590 --> 03:19:30,319
uh to

5972
03:19:33,510 --> 03:19:31,600
give a little

5973
03:19:35,349 --> 03:19:33,520
icing on the sugar

5974
03:19:37,349 --> 03:19:35,359
on but that's on the chocolate that's on

5975
03:19:38,389 --> 03:19:37,359
the

5976
03:19:40,150 --> 03:19:38,399
caramel

5977
03:19:41,910 --> 03:19:40,160
because uh you know we're going to be

5978
03:19:43,910 --> 03:19:41,920
talking a lot of uh

5979
03:19:45,510 --> 03:19:43,920
ancient history esoteric stuff on that

5980
03:19:47,590 --> 03:19:45,520
on that show the last show we had with

5981
03:19:49,349 --> 03:19:47,600
laird scranton we actually had to cut

5982
03:19:51,510 --> 03:19:49,359
out a lot of content because it was

5983
03:19:53,590 --> 03:19:51,520
going into his other books

5984
03:19:55,429 --> 03:19:53,600
and that was when i think i first can

5985
03:19:57,349 --> 03:19:55,439
see this this contest idea and i said

5986
03:19:58,870 --> 03:19:57,359
denver we're going to

5987
03:19:59,990 --> 03:19:58,880
get this thing going and we didn't

5988
03:20:01,269 --> 03:20:00,000
really have a framework for the first

5989
03:20:02,250 --> 03:20:01,279
couple of weeks

5990
03:20:06,309 --> 03:20:02,260
um

5991
03:20:11,269 --> 03:20:09,269
saying goodbye to some people in chat

5992
03:20:12,950 --> 03:20:11,279
now i'm gonna get denver on here and

5993
03:20:14,870 --> 03:20:12,960
we're gonna say hello so let me just let

5994
03:20:20,340 --> 03:20:14,880
me just uh

5995
03:20:25,190 --> 03:20:23,429
[Music]

5996
03:20:27,269 --> 03:20:25,200
denver michaels so yeah we've been

5997
03:20:29,110 --> 03:20:27,279
throwing this out here for every single

5998
03:20:31,269 --> 03:20:29,120
week we've been having reports on a

5999
03:20:32,790 --> 03:20:31,279
weekly basis as best as we can when he's

6000
03:20:34,950 --> 03:20:32,800
available

6001
03:20:37,269 --> 03:20:34,960
um

6002
03:20:38,229 --> 03:20:37,279
and i know that we've had one discovery

6003
03:20:39,510 --> 03:20:38,239
which is

6004
03:20:42,870 --> 03:20:39,520
if you make a sandwich with peanut

6005
03:20:43,910 --> 03:20:42,880
butter denver's not gonna like it

6006
03:20:49,269 --> 03:20:43,920
now

6007
03:20:50,630 --> 03:20:49,279
the winner is

6008
03:20:51,930 --> 03:20:50,640
i do not

6009
03:20:59,590 --> 03:20:51,940
um

6010
03:21:02,469 --> 03:21:00,950
and i'm just uh

6011
03:21:04,229 --> 03:21:02,479
trying to figure out

6012
03:21:05,110 --> 03:21:04,239
where where denver is is denver still

6013
03:21:07,269 --> 03:21:05,120
live

6014
03:21:08,790 --> 03:21:07,279
oh he is oh my goodness he answered the

6015
03:21:10,870 --> 03:21:08,800
call thank you

6016
03:21:13,830 --> 03:21:10,880
denver

6017
03:21:19,030 --> 03:21:13,840
are you

6018
03:21:20,229 --> 03:21:19,040
i'm uh doing doing quite good um

6019
03:21:21,910 --> 03:21:20,239
i'm gonna see if i can get your picture

6020
03:21:23,590 --> 03:21:21,920
on here

6021
03:21:26,309 --> 03:21:23,600
cancel

6022
03:21:28,630 --> 03:21:26,319
that's image one uh can i transform this

6023
03:21:29,990 --> 03:21:28,640
can i turn this

6024
03:21:31,030 --> 03:21:30,000
all right this is gonna get really weird

6025
03:21:32,790 --> 03:21:31,040
for a second just because i have to

6026
03:21:36,070 --> 03:21:32,800
actually put your

6027
03:21:39,190 --> 03:21:36,080
image up here screen capture

6028
03:21:42,150 --> 03:21:39,200
display capture there we go

6029
03:21:43,670 --> 03:21:42,160
skype that screen

6030
03:21:45,349 --> 03:21:43,680
all right there we go you are large and

6031
03:21:48,469 --> 03:21:45,359
on screen it's going to shrink your

6032
03:21:51,030 --> 03:21:48,479
image down for everybody at home

6033
03:21:52,710 --> 03:21:51,040
and i'm going to welcome a mr a denver

6034
03:21:56,550 --> 03:21:52,720
michael's onto the program

6035
03:22:00,229 --> 03:21:58,950
the man himself now i have to say how

6036
03:22:01,750 --> 03:22:00,239
how have you thought about this contest

6037
03:22:04,469 --> 03:22:01,760
when i first came to you with this idea

6038
03:22:08,950 --> 03:22:06,389
i thought it was so stupid it might just

6039
03:22:10,389 --> 03:22:08,960
work you know

6040
03:22:11,830 --> 03:22:10,399
and ah

6041
03:22:13,910 --> 03:22:11,840
i mean it's great

6042
03:22:15,750 --> 03:22:13,920
now i i i appreciate the fact that you

6043
03:22:17,269 --> 03:22:15,760
went along with this base and purely i'm

6044
03:22:19,349 --> 03:22:17,279
based on your amusement just like let's

6045
03:22:20,550 --> 03:22:19,359
see what what [\h__\h] happens here this is

6046
03:22:22,790 --> 03:22:20,560
how we do

6047
03:22:24,870 --> 03:22:22,800
this this this entire show and i know i

6048
03:22:26,469 --> 03:22:24,880
know i'm like flushed in sweating here

6049
03:22:27,670 --> 03:22:26,479
um for people who think that i've been

6050
03:22:29,750 --> 03:22:27,680
having a little bit too much scotch i've

6051
03:22:31,190 --> 03:22:29,760
actually had less than i usually do

6052
03:22:33,190 --> 03:22:31,200
it's just it's summertime here in ottawa

6053
03:22:37,670 --> 03:22:33,200
it's very humid and i've got a fan

6054
03:22:41,590 --> 03:22:40,150
and it's not doing [\h__\h] now

6055
03:22:43,030 --> 03:22:41,600
how many winners do we have and i know

6056
03:22:45,190 --> 03:22:43,040
that you said there was multiple i asked

6057
03:22:48,070 --> 03:22:45,200
you not to tell me

6058
03:22:50,790 --> 03:22:48,080
so do we have a first place winner we've

6059
03:22:53,670 --> 03:22:50,800
got a first place winner okay

6060
03:22:56,229 --> 03:22:53,680
we've got our second place and our worst

6061
03:22:58,309 --> 03:22:56,239
established okay now i'm gonna say this

6062
03:22:59,590 --> 03:22:58,319
much is that i've i've heard you

6063
03:23:02,950 --> 03:22:59,600
complain

6064
03:23:05,030 --> 03:23:02,960
i mean cheer for

6065
03:23:07,190 --> 03:23:05,040
the recipes that have come in

6066
03:23:08,710 --> 03:23:07,200
and there are we even had one recipe

6067
03:23:10,469 --> 03:23:08,720
that was disqualified

6068
03:23:12,790 --> 03:23:10,479
based on its

6069
03:23:16,469 --> 03:23:12,800
uh i think they sent in two there was

6070
03:23:19,990 --> 03:23:18,469
bad

6071
03:23:21,190 --> 03:23:20,000
and there was also one that did not have

6072
03:23:22,229 --> 03:23:21,200
the right ingredients around so you're

6073
03:23:24,070 --> 03:23:22,239
like well i'm just gonna you know like

6074
03:23:26,070 --> 03:23:24,080
disqualify this but here is you know

6075
03:23:27,670 --> 03:23:26,080
here here's a consolation prize but i

6076
03:23:29,590 --> 03:23:27,680
know that we do have a worst an absolute

6077
03:23:32,469 --> 03:23:29,600
worst that is not like the without

6078
03:23:33,429 --> 03:23:32,479
trying to kill you a sandwich

6079
03:23:35,269 --> 03:23:33,439
that

6080
03:23:36,389 --> 03:23:35,279
was so bad you gave it one of the lowest

6081
03:23:37,590 --> 03:23:36,399
ratings

6082
03:23:39,590 --> 03:23:37,600
i've ever seen from a sandwich the

6083
03:23:41,670 --> 03:23:39,600
lowest rating of this contest now

6084
03:23:42,790 --> 03:23:41,680
if you can describe

6085
03:23:44,469 --> 03:23:42,800
the

6086
03:23:46,309 --> 03:23:44,479
recipe for me please what how did it

6087
03:23:49,429 --> 03:23:46,319
make you feel

6088
03:23:52,790 --> 03:23:49,439
this sandwich made me feel just

6089
03:23:54,229 --> 03:23:52,800
bad inside this was a

6090
03:23:58,870 --> 03:23:54,239
toasted

6091
03:24:01,429 --> 03:23:58,880
sandwich with a warm tuna and peas

6092
03:24:03,590 --> 03:24:01,439
and it was sent in by ellen and it was

6093
03:24:06,469 --> 03:24:03,600
it was the worst and she sent it in

6094
03:24:08,870 --> 03:24:06,479
quite a while back and um it it held on

6095
03:24:11,030 --> 03:24:08,880
to that bottom spot throughout the whole

6096
03:24:13,590 --> 03:24:11,040
contest so um

6097
03:24:15,670 --> 03:24:13,600
she's gonna get a book so here's here's

6098
03:24:17,750 --> 03:24:15,680
the interesting part about ellen and

6099
03:24:19,510 --> 03:24:17,760
ellen uh congratulations

6100
03:24:20,950 --> 03:24:19,520
your sandwich sucked

6101
03:24:22,550 --> 03:24:20,960
badly

6102
03:24:24,389 --> 03:24:22,560
absolutely horrible

6103
03:24:27,110 --> 03:24:24,399
um it was awful

6104
03:24:28,229 --> 03:24:27,120
denver hated it and gave it a 2 out of

6105
03:24:30,309 --> 03:24:28,239
10.

6106
03:24:33,750 --> 03:24:30,319
i hated it but in a good way you know it

6107
03:24:35,429 --> 03:24:33,760
was like so bad it was awesome and and

6108
03:24:36,710 --> 03:24:35,439
you know i know that there was a point

6109
03:24:37,990 --> 03:24:36,720
in this show where like you know the

6110
03:24:40,710 --> 03:24:38,000
worst sandwich i'm going to give a book

6111
03:24:43,429 --> 03:24:40,720
to and then you instantaneously realized

6112
03:24:46,229 --> 03:24:43,439
oh no what have i done and honestly like

6113
03:24:47,429 --> 03:24:46,239
a cavalcade of of ridiculous recipes

6114
03:24:48,790 --> 03:24:47,439
came in that i didn't even send you

6115
03:24:52,630 --> 03:24:48,800
because it's like no this is gonna like

6116
03:24:54,950 --> 03:24:52,640
kill him no it's done uh now ellen

6117
03:24:56,630 --> 03:24:54,960
is actually one of our uh

6118
03:24:59,030 --> 03:24:56,640
oh my god i didn't even i didn't even

6119
03:25:02,389 --> 03:24:59,040
thank the patrons on on the show this

6120
03:25:04,229 --> 03:25:02,399
episode my goodness uh now it also like

6121
03:25:05,910 --> 03:25:04,239
i i know that um um i was supposed to

6122
03:25:07,429 --> 03:25:05,920
give some love to to rocky stuchi who's

6123
03:25:09,510 --> 03:25:07,439
our guest next week uh he's got the

6124
03:25:10,710 --> 03:25:09,520
rocky stuchi show a lot more political a

6125
03:25:12,630 --> 03:25:10,720
lot more

6126
03:25:14,710 --> 03:25:12,640
less ranty than i am i said to give him

6127
03:25:16,309 --> 03:25:14,720
some love you know brother

6128
03:25:18,870 --> 03:25:16,319
can't wait for next week love you to

6129
03:25:20,710 --> 03:25:18,880
death you're amazing uh keep keep the

6130
03:25:22,630 --> 03:25:20,720
italian home fires burning out there and

6131
03:25:23,910 --> 03:25:22,640
again if john ward it gives you any guff

6132
03:25:25,030 --> 03:25:23,920
you know what to do

6133
03:25:27,030 --> 03:25:25,040
um

6134
03:25:30,070 --> 03:25:27,040
now ellen is one of our masters for a

6135
03:25:31,990 --> 03:25:30,080
patron she she's she essentially is it's

6136
03:25:32,870 --> 03:25:32,000
our highest echelon of of donation per

6137
03:25:35,510 --> 03:25:32,880
month

6138
03:25:38,710 --> 03:25:35,520
uh we're restrict the donation show now

6139
03:25:40,630 --> 03:25:38,720
she has been our largest supporter

6140
03:25:41,910 --> 03:25:40,640
from in terms of like merchandise in

6141
03:25:43,830 --> 03:25:41,920
terms of supporting the show and making

6142
03:25:45,190 --> 03:25:43,840
sure we can pay the bills so that my

6143
03:25:46,309 --> 03:25:45,200
wife doesn't ask me to shut this down

6144
03:25:48,309 --> 03:25:46,319
because the kid's on the way and we got

6145
03:25:50,389 --> 03:25:48,319
to pay the bills so

6146
03:25:52,790 --> 03:25:50,399
ellen the fact that you sent in the

6147
03:25:55,590 --> 03:25:52,800
shittiest sandwich imaginable and want

6148
03:25:57,190 --> 03:25:55,600
yourself a book out of it

6149
03:25:59,110 --> 03:25:57,200
you know what the

6150
03:26:00,870 --> 03:25:59,120
as my sister would say the shittiness of

6151
03:26:02,469 --> 03:26:00,880
your sandwich is inversely proportioned

6152
03:26:05,269 --> 03:26:02,479
to the size of your heart and one of the

6153
03:26:06,229 --> 03:26:05,279
kindest most gentlest amazing people

6154
03:26:08,950 --> 03:26:06,239
i know

6155
03:26:10,630 --> 03:26:08,960
and supportive and

6156
03:26:12,070 --> 03:26:10,640
the fact that she directly contributes

6157
03:26:13,990 --> 03:26:12,080
to this show literally i couldn't do the

6158
03:26:14,870 --> 03:26:14,000
show without her ellen thank you very

6159
03:26:20,389 --> 03:26:14,880
much

6160
03:26:25,110 --> 03:26:22,550
okay so that is the worst sandwich out

6161
03:26:26,070 --> 03:26:25,120
there now we've got a a grand prize

6162
03:26:27,510 --> 03:26:26,080
winner i don't want to know the grand

6163
03:26:30,309 --> 03:26:27,520
prize winner yet

6164
03:26:32,710 --> 03:26:30,319
do we have a tie for second place

6165
03:26:37,030 --> 03:26:32,720
we had a tie

6166
03:26:39,750 --> 03:26:37,040
um kevin stevens and jared uh were tied

6167
03:26:41,910 --> 03:26:39,760
holy [\h__\h] milk sandwiches but we had

6168
03:26:45,349 --> 03:26:41,920
some movement on the leaderboard last

6169
03:26:48,790 --> 03:26:45,359
week mark catalano snuck in with this

6170
03:26:51,030 --> 03:26:48,800
turkey pesto salt and pepper sandwich oh

6171
03:26:54,229 --> 03:26:51,040
my god he snuck into second place last

6172
03:26:59,269 --> 03:26:54,239
week mark just actually logged off about

6173
03:27:03,269 --> 03:27:01,830
and he again it's

6174
03:27:05,429 --> 03:27:03,279
like that was a pastel sandwich i know

6175
03:27:07,110 --> 03:27:05,439
you're like like dude like if if he

6176
03:27:09,510 --> 03:27:07,120
takes this out and i'm going to say this

6177
03:27:11,990 --> 03:27:09,520
outright if he had removed an ingredient

6178
03:27:15,030 --> 03:27:12,000
he would have won is that correct

6179
03:27:16,630 --> 03:27:15,040
no that is rob jeffries

6180
03:27:18,710 --> 03:27:16,640
okay yeah

6181
03:27:21,110 --> 03:27:18,720
let me go over that sandwich real quick

6182
03:27:24,469 --> 03:27:21,120
i know everybody's been up late but rob

6183
03:27:27,670 --> 03:27:24,479
jeffrey sent in a white bread uh

6184
03:27:29,670 --> 03:27:27,680
grilled bacon and swiss but uh

6185
03:27:31,030 --> 03:27:29,680
with peanut butter

6186
03:27:33,910 --> 03:27:31,040
so

6187
03:27:34,950 --> 03:27:33,920
now i scored that at a five and a half

6188
03:27:37,190 --> 03:27:34,960
um

6189
03:27:40,150 --> 03:27:37,200
if it didn't have the peanut butter this

6190
03:27:42,389 --> 03:27:40,160
would have been the number two sandwich

6191
03:27:43,510 --> 03:27:42,399
okay so the this is where i figured out

6192
03:27:45,190 --> 03:27:43,520
that you just don't like peanut butter

6193
03:27:47,750 --> 03:27:45,200
very much or at least not peanut butter

6194
03:27:49,510 --> 03:27:47,760
peanut butter's fine with jam not with a

6195
03:27:51,190 --> 03:27:49,520
grilled cheese you know what i'm saying

6196
03:27:53,590 --> 03:27:51,200
it peanut butter does not go with

6197
03:27:54,790 --> 03:27:53,600
everything folks

6198
03:27:56,469 --> 03:27:54,800
true enough

6199
03:27:59,190 --> 03:27:56,479
not for me anyway

6200
03:28:01,910 --> 03:27:59,200
the favorite and my wife uh does make

6201
03:28:04,229 --> 03:28:01,920
the does make me the occasional sandwich

6202
03:28:06,790 --> 03:28:04,239
and i love her to death and she's she's

6203
03:28:07,990 --> 03:28:06,800
the best person in my life

6204
03:28:10,229 --> 03:28:08,000
you know you know a person when they

6205
03:28:11,429 --> 03:28:10,239
make a great sandwich it's not peanut

6206
03:28:12,950 --> 03:28:11,439
butter i know she makes one great with

6207
03:28:13,830 --> 03:28:12,960
peanut butter she took the peanut butter

6208
03:28:15,590 --> 03:28:13,840
out

6209
03:28:17,590 --> 03:28:15,600
but grilled cheese and bacon sandwich

6210
03:28:21,349 --> 03:28:17,600
and not just any grilled cheese cracker

6211
03:28:24,309 --> 03:28:21,359
barrel chive white cheddar

6212
03:28:25,990 --> 03:28:24,319
that's strong oh my goodness it's like i

6213
03:28:28,070 --> 03:28:26,000
i don't care

6214
03:28:29,349 --> 03:28:28,080
anything that's going on in the world

6215
03:28:30,870 --> 03:28:29,359
she will drop it in front of me and like

6216
03:28:33,269 --> 03:28:30,880
it's it's whole wheat bread and it's

6217
03:28:35,030 --> 03:28:33,279
just you pull it apart and it's so gooey

6218
03:28:36,630 --> 03:28:35,040
and you see the bacon

6219
03:28:38,950 --> 03:28:36,640
and you're like i know i could have like

6220
03:28:40,550 --> 03:28:38,960
three of these but she only makes one b

6221
03:28:43,030 --> 03:28:40,560
and it makes it special because it's

6222
03:28:45,110 --> 03:28:43,040
like here is the rarest sandwich that

6223
03:28:45,910 --> 03:28:45,120
you love the most on the planet

6224
03:28:49,750 --> 03:28:45,920
so

6225
03:28:52,469 --> 03:28:49,760
food after this

6226
03:28:54,870 --> 03:28:52,479
so those two okay so so they won once

6227
03:28:56,550 --> 03:28:54,880
was it signed booker it's a sign booked

6228
03:28:59,030 --> 03:28:56,560
from okay so

6229
03:29:01,670 --> 03:28:59,040
yeah so mark catalano

6230
03:29:04,950 --> 03:29:01,680
will get the two signed books of his

6231
03:29:07,429 --> 03:29:04,960
choice okay mark and let me back up one

6232
03:29:09,590 --> 03:29:07,439
second rob jeffries i mean uh the

6233
03:29:12,150 --> 03:29:09,600
sandwich like i said it would have

6234
03:29:14,150 --> 03:29:12,160
got in the um two spot

6235
03:29:17,590 --> 03:29:14,160
so i want to give him a consolation

6236
03:29:20,309 --> 03:29:17,600
prize i've got no way i don't know um

6237
03:29:22,630 --> 03:29:20,319
how to get up with him but i've got a um

6238
03:29:25,269 --> 03:29:22,640
if he wants it i've got a uh

6239
03:29:27,269 --> 03:29:25,279
a kindle uh gift code

6240
03:29:28,950 --> 03:29:27,279
that he can redeem for one of my kindle

6241
03:29:31,830 --> 03:29:28,960
books or if he doesn't want one of my

6242
03:29:33,670 --> 03:29:31,840
books he can redeem it for um i think

6243
03:29:34,469 --> 03:29:33,680
it's like

6244
03:29:36,550 --> 03:29:34,479
um

6245
03:29:39,670 --> 03:29:36,560
you know amazon gift card or whatever so

6246
03:29:41,670 --> 03:29:39,680
i want to give him a consolation prize

6247
03:29:43,030 --> 03:29:41,680
okay so again we're going to try and

6248
03:29:44,469 --> 03:29:43,040
track these people down and as i said

6249
03:29:45,349 --> 03:29:44,479
like if you don't

6250
03:29:47,030 --> 03:29:45,359
um

6251
03:29:48,070 --> 03:29:47,040
you know if somebody doesn't claim their

6252
03:29:49,349 --> 03:29:48,080
prize i'm just going to give it to the

6253
03:29:50,630 --> 03:29:49,359
next person up

6254
03:29:52,309 --> 03:29:50,640
yeah so

6255
03:29:54,309 --> 03:29:52,319
we have enough social media coverage and

6256
03:29:55,910 --> 03:29:54,319
i think that our fans and if i think the

6257
03:29:57,190 --> 03:29:55,920
denizens are rabid enough that if

6258
03:29:59,429 --> 03:29:57,200
they're willing to put up with my voice

6259
03:30:01,510 --> 03:29:59,439
and my constant swearing and scotch

6260
03:30:02,630 --> 03:30:01,520
drinking for a three to four hour period

6261
03:30:04,630 --> 03:30:02,640
they're probably going to check in at

6262
03:30:07,429 --> 03:30:04,640
some time to see how things are

6263
03:30:08,870 --> 03:30:07,439
so i i know somebody's going to get some

6264
03:30:10,389 --> 03:30:08,880
some information somewhere i'll check

6265
03:30:11,429 --> 03:30:10,399
i'll check the uh

6266
03:30:13,190 --> 03:30:11,439
comments

6267
03:30:14,150 --> 03:30:13,200
we'll we'll get to them at some point

6268
03:30:16,550 --> 03:30:14,160
now yeah

6269
03:30:18,870 --> 03:30:16,560
and and uh that i got two other

6270
03:30:21,269 --> 03:30:18,880
consolation prizes i would the same

6271
03:30:23,429 --> 03:30:21,279
thing i was going to give to uh kevin

6272
03:30:26,070 --> 03:30:23,439
stevens and jared because they had been

6273
03:30:28,150 --> 03:30:26,080
in the in the two spot tied for so long

6274
03:30:30,550 --> 03:30:28,160
and um i've got their uh

6275
03:30:33,030 --> 03:30:30,560
information i can uh get that out to

6276
03:30:35,670 --> 03:30:33,040
them well jared's back in uh he's back

6277
03:30:37,030 --> 03:30:35,680
from a trip around south america i'm

6278
03:30:39,110 --> 03:30:37,040
trying to get him on the show because

6279
03:30:41,030 --> 03:30:39,120
he's been everywhere like everywhere any

6280
03:30:43,190 --> 03:30:41,040
megalithic site he went to easter island

6281
03:30:45,510 --> 03:30:43,200
for crying out loud yeah it sounds so

6282
03:30:47,910 --> 03:30:45,520
jealous oh i know it's like i wish i

6283
03:30:49,910 --> 03:30:47,920
could do that like being it for me to be

6284
03:30:51,750 --> 03:30:49,920
like a digital nomad i like just graphic

6285
03:30:53,349 --> 03:30:51,760
design and write blogs from anywhere i

6286
03:30:54,229 --> 03:30:53,359
don't know what he does but he's able to

6287
03:30:56,950 --> 03:30:54,239
do it

6288
03:30:58,950 --> 03:30:56,960
and he must be independently wealthy i i

6289
03:31:01,510 --> 03:30:58,960
don't know but that's that's awesome

6290
03:31:03,990 --> 03:31:01,520
that he was able to do that

6291
03:31:05,750 --> 03:31:04,000
he's also a genuinely good man

6292
03:31:07,830 --> 03:31:05,760
so if he's not independently wealthy

6293
03:31:09,429 --> 03:31:07,840
he's independently wealthy in spirit and

6294
03:31:11,030 --> 03:31:09,439
now he's independently wealthy in denver

6295
03:31:12,389 --> 03:31:11,040
michael's books

6296
03:31:14,710 --> 03:31:12,399
so

6297
03:31:16,150 --> 03:31:14,720
um that that that beats out the first

6298
03:31:17,190 --> 03:31:16,160
two in my opinion

6299
03:31:19,670 --> 03:31:17,200
you know if

6300
03:31:21,030 --> 03:31:19,680
like if if the world if if the us united

6301
03:31:22,630 --> 03:31:21,040
states goes to [\h__\h]

6302
03:31:23,990 --> 03:31:22,640
and you guys go into civil war i will

6303
03:31:25,990 --> 03:31:24,000
use den for michael's books over

6304
03:31:28,229 --> 03:31:26,000
cigarettes and and toilet paper to

6305
03:31:28,950 --> 03:31:28,239
barter for goods it's like okay sure i

6306
03:31:30,469 --> 03:31:28,960
know

6307
03:31:31,510 --> 03:31:30,479
you can wipe your ass with this but

6308
03:31:33,110 --> 03:31:31,520
still

6309
03:31:34,870 --> 03:31:33,120
this right here will give you like

6310
03:31:37,830 --> 03:31:34,880
ancient knowledge on south american

6311
03:31:39,910 --> 03:31:37,840
cryptos or like even canadian like

6312
03:31:41,990 --> 03:31:39,920
like who knows some some water monster

6313
03:31:43,670 --> 03:31:42,000
could come out and like kill you this

6314
03:31:46,870 --> 03:31:43,680
this could be useful you know yeah you

6315
03:31:48,469 --> 03:31:46,880
can eat watermarks exactly

6316
03:31:49,269 --> 03:31:48,479
so that that's that that is my opinion

6317
03:31:51,030 --> 03:31:49,279
on this

6318
03:31:53,510 --> 03:31:51,040
um

6319
03:31:54,790 --> 03:31:53,520
okay so we have a grand prize winner

6320
03:31:57,670 --> 03:31:54,800
which

6321
03:31:59,110 --> 03:31:57,680
the grand prize winner wins

6322
03:32:02,309 --> 03:31:59,120
i'm going to open up the denver website

6323
03:32:04,150 --> 03:32:02,319
here so i can announce this correctly

6324
03:32:07,110 --> 03:32:04,160
and it's quite the amazing prize i know

6325
03:32:08,710 --> 03:32:07,120
you you're very

6326
03:32:10,150 --> 03:32:08,720
for somebody who has never written a

6327
03:32:11,510 --> 03:32:10,160
book but has always wanted to the fact

6328
03:32:14,070 --> 03:32:11,520
that you have written not only written

6329
03:32:15,349 --> 03:32:14,080
but published three

6330
03:32:16,790 --> 03:32:15,359
that is

6331
03:32:18,309 --> 03:32:16,800
uh

6332
03:32:20,710 --> 03:32:18,319
a good achievement

6333
03:32:22,630 --> 03:32:20,720
in many three times over

6334
03:32:24,790 --> 03:32:22,640
and to that next like

6335
03:32:26,630 --> 03:32:24,800
the respect is monuments from from this

6336
03:32:27,750 --> 03:32:26,640
uh from this side because it's like well

6337
03:32:29,349 --> 03:32:27,760
this man has done something i could

6338
03:32:30,550 --> 03:32:29,359
never do what i've wanted to be able to

6339
03:32:31,750 --> 03:32:30,560
do

6340
03:32:32,550 --> 03:32:31,760
and he's written something that's really

6341
03:32:33,429 --> 03:32:32,560
good

6342
03:32:36,550 --> 03:32:33,439
so

6343
03:32:40,870 --> 03:32:36,560
and i'm stalling for time by by giving

6344
03:32:44,150 --> 03:32:42,950
try yeah the link's not working so i'm

6345
03:32:45,269 --> 03:32:44,160
trying to stretch things out here it's

6346
03:32:48,070 --> 03:32:45,279
better than

6347
03:32:49,429 --> 03:32:48,080
uh you know

6348
03:32:51,030 --> 03:32:49,439
white screen

6349
03:32:53,429 --> 03:32:51,040
so yes okay

6350
03:32:56,550 --> 03:32:53,439
thank you

6351
03:33:00,389 --> 03:32:56,560
you get three signed books hard copies

6352
03:33:02,150 --> 03:33:00,399
people are seeing something which

6353
03:33:04,950 --> 03:33:02,160
is

6354
03:33:06,469 --> 03:33:04,960
about it's north american cryptids and

6355
03:33:07,670 --> 03:33:06,479
it's such a riveting book i've given it

6356
03:33:09,190 --> 03:33:07,680
to my mother

6357
03:33:10,790 --> 03:33:09,200
who

6358
03:33:13,190 --> 03:33:10,800
has read the entire thing

6359
03:33:16,150 --> 03:33:13,200
she does say the second book is better

6360
03:33:17,349 --> 03:33:16,160
and the third book is better than that

6361
03:33:19,510 --> 03:33:17,359
but she still loved it i love the

6362
03:33:20,710 --> 03:33:19,520
imagery from it

6363
03:33:22,150 --> 03:33:20,720
if you want to be able to go south of

6364
03:33:25,190 --> 03:33:22,160
the border we're talking mexico we're

6365
03:33:26,550 --> 03:33:25,200
talking the amazon water monsters south

6366
03:33:29,670 --> 03:33:26,560
of the border

6367
03:33:31,590 --> 03:33:29,680
and you actually traveled for this one

6368
03:33:34,070 --> 03:33:31,600
yeah i went i went to peru

6369
03:33:35,990 --> 03:33:34,080
for a couple yeah about a week and two

6370
03:33:37,990 --> 03:33:36,000
weeks i guess

6371
03:33:40,469 --> 03:33:38,000
and

6372
03:33:42,389 --> 03:33:40,479
you didn't find any cryptids there but

6373
03:33:44,469 --> 03:33:42,399
you heard people who knew people who

6374
03:33:46,229 --> 03:33:44,479
actually encountered them

6375
03:33:47,110 --> 03:33:46,239
yeah i uh

6376
03:33:50,710 --> 03:33:47,120
you know

6377
03:33:53,429 --> 03:33:50,720
a guide that i had uh in the amazon um

6378
03:33:55,540 --> 03:33:53,439
he didn't have first-hand knowledge but

6379
03:33:57,429 --> 03:33:55,550
um his grandmother

6380
03:34:00,309 --> 03:33:57,439
[Music]

6381
03:34:03,910 --> 03:34:00,319
had seen uh supposedly seen one of the

6382
03:34:06,150 --> 03:34:03,920
giant anacondas i think when she was um

6383
03:34:07,190 --> 03:34:06,160
maybe i don't know how old she was when

6384
03:34:07,830 --> 03:34:07,200
she saw

6385
03:34:09,590 --> 03:34:07,840
it

6386
03:34:12,309 --> 03:34:09,600
you know just like the tails of the

6387
03:34:16,150 --> 03:34:12,319
giant anacondas where the with the crown

6388
03:34:18,229 --> 03:34:16,160
shakes and um you know just a massive

6389
03:34:20,950 --> 03:34:18,239
snake you know coming from under the

6390
03:34:23,750 --> 03:34:20,960
ground into into the river there so um

6391
03:34:25,830 --> 03:34:23,760
yeah he told me the you know the story

6392
03:34:29,190 --> 03:34:25,840
that you know his grandmother passed

6393
03:34:31,670 --> 03:34:29,200
down to him and he absolutely

6394
03:34:33,830 --> 03:34:31,680
you know believed it was real you know

6395
03:34:36,070 --> 03:34:33,840
so i i was just um

6396
03:34:36,790 --> 03:34:36,080
i was just delighted you know that that

6397
03:34:39,030 --> 03:34:36,800
he

6398
03:34:41,110 --> 03:34:39,040
shared that with me

6399
03:34:43,110 --> 03:34:41,120
and

6400
03:34:44,710 --> 03:34:43,120
it's not only the fact that you you ran

6401
03:34:46,070 --> 03:34:44,720
into these individuals who either had

6402
03:34:48,710 --> 03:34:46,080
these stories or heard them from second

6403
03:34:51,110 --> 03:34:48,720
nature you also talked to them about the

6404
03:34:53,349 --> 03:34:51,120
ancient history of the area and you

6405
03:34:57,590 --> 03:34:53,359
this book is filled with

6406
03:35:00,550 --> 03:34:57,600
just tidbits of of mythology and

6407
03:35:02,870 --> 03:35:00,560
you know first-hand information of the

6408
03:35:06,630 --> 03:35:02,880
places you've visited uh again if you've

6409
03:35:08,150 --> 03:35:06,640
ever heard any graham hancock uh book

6410
03:35:09,429 --> 03:35:08,160
that has talked about uh

6411
03:35:11,510 --> 03:35:09,439
the viracocha and i actually remembered

6412
03:35:13,910 --> 03:35:11,520
the name this time or quetzalcoatl again

6413
03:35:15,349 --> 03:35:13,920
remember the name this time

6414
03:35:16,870 --> 03:35:15,359
10 episodes i would have completely

6415
03:35:17,510 --> 03:35:16,880
screwed up the viracocha but now i got

6416
03:35:20,790 --> 03:35:17,520
it

6417
03:35:22,150 --> 03:35:20,800
remember that we had a very wonderful

6418
03:35:24,389 --> 03:35:22,160
conversation one of the first three

6419
03:35:27,910 --> 03:35:24,399
episodes about this and i'm like like

6420
03:35:29,349 --> 03:35:27,920
okay like he's he's got the interest and

6421
03:35:31,590 --> 03:35:29,359
you've got that in there and if you want

6422
03:35:33,750 --> 03:35:31,600
to read about it it's in this book if

6423
03:35:36,469 --> 03:35:33,760
you won and it's going to be signed so

6424
03:35:39,830 --> 03:35:36,479
you know it's if

6425
03:35:41,990 --> 03:35:39,840
[\h__\h] it's the fan you're at least have

6426
03:35:43,190 --> 03:35:42,000
10 million dollars worth of because it's

6427
03:35:46,389 --> 03:35:43,200
priceless but so you got to lose about

6428
03:35:48,550 --> 03:35:46,399
10 million worth of goods on hand just

6429
03:35:49,990 --> 03:35:48,560
just putting that out there um now i

6430
03:35:52,389 --> 03:35:50,000
know the third book

6431
03:35:54,710 --> 03:35:52,399
wild and wonderful and paranormal west

6432
03:36:00,790 --> 03:35:54,720
virginia

6433
03:36:03,750 --> 03:36:00,800
is about 20 miles away

6434
03:36:05,670 --> 03:36:03,760
yeah i'm very close

6435
03:36:07,510 --> 03:36:05,680
and the entire uh purpose of this

6436
03:36:09,590 --> 03:36:07,520
contest was to be able to feed you while

6437
03:36:12,070 --> 03:36:09,600
you're out researching for this book it

6438
03:36:13,590 --> 03:36:12,080
was released while the contest was going

6439
03:36:15,030 --> 03:36:13,600
so and you stuck with it which is

6440
03:36:16,229 --> 03:36:15,040
awesome so i'm hoping there's a fourth

6441
03:36:18,630 --> 03:36:16,239
book on the way

6442
03:36:20,469 --> 03:36:18,640
at some point and if you

6443
03:36:21,990 --> 03:36:20,479
have any chapters you want to put in

6444
03:36:24,150 --> 03:36:22,000
about the ridiculousness and the

6445
03:36:26,710 --> 03:36:24,160
surrealness of this entire experience

6446
03:36:29,750 --> 03:36:26,720
go right ahead um

6447
03:36:32,830 --> 03:36:29,760
but overall it is

6448
03:36:35,110 --> 03:36:32,840
the coolest because it covers everything

6449
03:36:36,389 --> 03:36:35,120
ufos mothman

6450
03:36:38,870 --> 03:36:36,399
bigfoot

6451
03:36:41,030 --> 03:36:38,880
uh you you name it there's a you know

6452
03:36:43,269 --> 03:36:41,040
something for everybody in there

6453
03:36:44,229 --> 03:36:43,279
and it's it is all coming from the man

6454
03:36:46,469 --> 03:36:44,239
himself

6455
03:36:48,550 --> 03:36:46,479
next to where he lives so you know he

6456
03:36:50,229 --> 03:36:48,560
knows best and this was released

6457
03:36:52,150 --> 03:36:50,239
originally in april

6458
03:36:55,349 --> 03:36:52,160
uh it was it's available on amazon it's

6459
03:36:57,030 --> 03:36:55,359
available in heart in in in soft cover

6460
03:36:58,790 --> 03:36:57,040
uh again

6461
03:37:00,630 --> 03:36:58,800
wonderful book thank you very much for

6462
03:37:03,269 --> 03:37:00,640
for the copy uh

6463
03:37:05,429 --> 03:37:03,279
my mother has told me to tell you

6464
03:37:06,790 --> 03:37:05,439
because she listens to the show

6465
03:37:09,590 --> 03:37:06,800
well pretty much because we have you on

6466
03:37:10,710 --> 03:37:09,600
here otherwise it you know

6467
03:37:11,990 --> 03:37:10,720
so it's

6468
03:37:13,750 --> 03:37:12,000
that that's cool so this book is in

6469
03:37:16,870 --> 03:37:13,760
there as well so you had all three

6470
03:37:19,670 --> 03:37:16,880
denver michael's books signed this is a

6471
03:37:22,870 --> 03:37:19,680
apocalypse uh monetary

6472
03:37:24,950 --> 03:37:22,880
currency i'm guaranteeing you

6473
03:37:26,229 --> 03:37:24,960
you want you want to have won this so

6474
03:37:27,349 --> 03:37:26,239
i'm gonna i'm gonna give the drum roll

6475
03:37:28,710 --> 03:37:27,359
here

6476
03:37:30,790 --> 03:37:28,720
but

6477
03:37:31,900 --> 03:37:30,800
sorry i can't even i'm going to yeah

6478
03:37:36,229 --> 03:37:31,910
dremel

6479
03:37:37,990 --> 03:37:36,239
[Music]

6480
03:37:39,590 --> 03:37:38,000
who is the winner

6481
03:37:42,229 --> 03:37:39,600
the winner

6482
03:37:46,309 --> 03:37:42,239
with the buffalo chicken grilled cheese

6483
03:37:47,190 --> 03:37:46,319
sandwich is kevin from nebraska holy

6484
03:37:49,429 --> 03:37:47,200
[\h__\h]

6485
03:37:51,429 --> 03:37:49,439
and he's held on to the number one spot

6486
03:37:54,389 --> 03:37:51,439
all along i mean he

6487
03:37:56,550 --> 03:37:54,399
he really didn't even get that it wasn't

6488
03:37:58,950 --> 03:37:56,560
really that close i mean the sandwich

6489
03:38:01,910 --> 03:37:58,960
was um

6490
03:38:02,790 --> 03:38:01,920
just the best i mean by by a long shot

6491
03:38:04,389 --> 03:38:02,800
so

6492
03:38:06,229 --> 03:38:04,399
there you have it

6493
03:38:08,150 --> 03:38:06,239
now if if you were to put this in sports

6494
03:38:10,550 --> 03:38:08,160
terms what what would you give his level

6495
03:38:12,550 --> 03:38:10,560
of domination in this contest

6496
03:38:15,030 --> 03:38:12,560
i mean he's kind he's kind of like the

6497
03:38:16,070 --> 03:38:15,040
the new england patriots over the last

6498
03:38:18,550 --> 03:38:16,080
you know

6499
03:38:20,630 --> 03:38:18,560
decade and a half i mean just

6500
03:38:22,550 --> 03:38:20,640
just pretty much just kicked everybody's

6501
03:38:25,429 --> 03:38:22,560
ass you know

6502
03:38:28,150 --> 03:38:25,439
you know i'm a patriots fan um again i

6503
03:38:30,229 --> 03:38:28,160
will get hate mail for this uh

6504
03:38:36,229 --> 03:38:30,239
i'm sorry tom brady

6505
03:38:39,269 --> 03:38:38,070
people hit him because he's that good

6506
03:38:40,790 --> 03:38:39,279
but the difference between him and let's

6507
03:38:42,150 --> 03:38:40,800
say like a sydney crosby who's a crying

6508
03:38:43,750 --> 03:38:42,160
little [\h__\h]

6509
03:38:46,389 --> 03:38:43,760
[\h__\h] you sydney and your [\h__\h]

6510
03:38:48,469 --> 03:38:46,399
penguins for beating ottawa it's sorry

6511
03:38:49,440 --> 03:38:48,479
pksube i hate pk suba he hit you in the

6512
03:38:50,790 --> 03:38:49,450
head oh

6513
03:38:53,190 --> 03:38:50,800
[Music]

6514
03:38:54,389 --> 03:38:53,200
just does somebody want a ball bob no go

6515
03:38:55,830 --> 03:38:54,399
[\h__\h] yourself

6516
03:38:58,229 --> 03:38:55,840
um

6517
03:39:00,070 --> 03:38:58,239
but he's a good guy like like people

6518
03:39:01,510 --> 03:39:00,080
hate him because he's that good he's

6519
03:39:03,110 --> 03:39:01,520
that good people everyone [\h__\h] hates

6520
03:39:04,150 --> 03:39:03,120
him but you can't say anything bad about

6521
03:39:06,790 --> 03:39:04,160
him

6522
03:39:09,269 --> 03:39:06,800
no i mean you know he's he he just kicks

6523
03:39:11,190 --> 03:39:09,279
everybody's ass he's good looking he's

6524
03:39:13,030 --> 03:39:11,200
married to a supermodel i mean what's

6525
03:39:15,590 --> 03:39:13,040
not to hate you know the fact that he's

6526
03:39:18,469 --> 03:39:15,600
rich and successful yeah he's got more

6527
03:39:21,030 --> 03:39:18,479
money than god i mean yeah you should

6528
03:39:23,110 --> 03:39:21,040
hate him you know but i mean he's good

6529
03:39:25,510 --> 03:39:23,120
at football you know here for all those

6530
03:39:27,910 --> 03:39:25,520
out there this is this is my my um

6531
03:39:31,110 --> 03:39:27,920
positive philosophy for the day instead

6532
03:39:33,750 --> 03:39:31,120
of hating those who have what you don't

6533
03:39:35,590 --> 03:39:33,760
admire their strength for getting it

6534
03:39:37,830 --> 03:39:35,600
and then what you need to do is use it

6535
03:39:40,070 --> 03:39:37,840
as a model for your own life if they

6536
03:39:42,389 --> 03:39:40,080
have a certain level of success

6537
03:39:44,630 --> 03:39:42,399
actually sit and think remove all

6538
03:39:45,750 --> 03:39:44,640
obstacles from your life

6539
03:39:47,590 --> 03:39:45,760
and i'm not talking about like saying

6540
03:39:49,510 --> 03:39:47,600
okay well if i leave my husband i can go

6541
03:39:52,150 --> 03:39:49,520
back to school and this and that use the

6542
03:39:53,670 --> 03:39:52,160
tools you have to build a strategy that

6543
03:39:55,830 --> 03:39:53,680
works for you

6544
03:39:58,550 --> 03:39:55,840
to make the world you want

6545
03:39:59,990 --> 03:39:58,560
and my my even for myself i know that i

6546
03:40:01,830 --> 03:40:00,000
could be laziest times and i'm nowhere

6547
03:40:03,590 --> 03:40:01,840
close to successful as i could be like i

6548
03:40:05,510 --> 03:40:03,600
built a podcast from nothing

6549
03:40:07,830 --> 03:40:05,520
you know with with

6550
03:40:10,710 --> 03:40:07,840
shoestring and some scotch and some good

6551
03:40:12,229 --> 03:40:10,720
friends and a lot of swear words and i'm

6552
03:40:14,070 --> 03:40:12,239
like yeah i'm good but i know i could be

6553
03:40:15,670 --> 03:40:14,080
better and i always want better you

6554
03:40:17,510 --> 03:40:15,680
control your own goddamn destiny if you

6555
03:40:19,510 --> 03:40:17,520
if you want to be tom brady

6556
03:40:21,429 --> 03:40:19,520
get out there and [\h__\h] be tom brady

6557
03:40:23,910 --> 03:40:21,439
because if you're not guess what no

6558
03:40:25,510 --> 03:40:23,920
[\h__\h] excuses that's on you and if you

6559
03:40:27,030 --> 03:40:25,520
didn't win

6560
03:40:30,229 --> 03:40:27,040
this contest you probably put peanut

6561
03:40:32,550 --> 03:40:30,239
butter in your recipe that's right so or

6562
03:40:36,309 --> 03:40:32,560
a slice of tomato oh god in heaven you

6563
03:40:37,830 --> 03:40:36,319
hate tomato too yes tomato sandwiches

6564
03:40:39,510 --> 03:40:37,840
unless it's a blt which then it's

6565
03:40:40,950 --> 03:40:39,520
awesome but still only acceptable

6566
03:40:42,950 --> 03:40:40,960
sandwich

6567
03:40:45,510 --> 03:40:42,960
for me for like for tomato at all now

6568
03:40:47,429 --> 03:40:45,520
kevin from nebraska

6569
03:40:49,349 --> 03:40:47,439
um a very big support of the show one of

6570
03:40:50,950 --> 03:40:49,359
our oldest listeners and he had to have

6571
03:40:52,389 --> 03:40:50,960
been to have held the number one spot

6572
03:40:54,790 --> 03:40:52,399
for so long

6573
03:40:57,030 --> 03:40:54,800
and one of the

6574
03:40:59,510 --> 03:40:57,040
just generally hard working guy family

6575
03:41:01,910 --> 03:40:59,520
guy amazing man very dedicated to the

6576
03:41:03,990 --> 03:41:01,920
show and just good honest people and i'm

6577
03:41:05,670 --> 03:41:04,000
like i have to say

6578
03:41:07,190 --> 03:41:05,680
i was kind of cheering for him because

6579
03:41:09,030 --> 03:41:07,200
he has holding on for so long i'm like

6580
03:41:10,790 --> 03:41:09,040
you're holding the number one spot it's

6581
03:41:12,630 --> 03:41:10,800
like i kind of want you to win but i

6582
03:41:14,550 --> 03:41:12,640
don't want to say that and even he was

6583
03:41:16,469 --> 03:41:14,560
very nice to me in like chat today and

6584
03:41:19,429 --> 03:41:16,479
i'm just like i'm sorry man kiss assing

6585
03:41:21,269 --> 03:41:19,439
with me will not get you guaranteed win

6586
03:41:23,030 --> 03:41:21,279
denver is the one judging i don't even

6587
03:41:24,710 --> 03:41:23,040
know who the winner is he's like oh my

6588
03:41:26,070 --> 03:41:24,720
god you're like you're swimming i'm like

6589
03:41:29,349 --> 03:41:26,080
no no dude dude well first of all i'm

6590
03:41:31,190 --> 03:41:29,359
joking but but still like yeah like

6591
03:41:33,349 --> 03:41:31,200
it's in denver's hands i'm just here to

6592
03:41:35,830 --> 03:41:33,359
to promote but still

6593
03:41:36,570 --> 03:41:35,840
kevin is such a nice man

6594
03:41:38,070 --> 03:41:36,580
it's um

6595
03:41:39,110 --> 03:41:38,080
[Music]

6596
03:41:40,790 --> 03:41:39,120
it's good to know that he had the

6597
03:41:41,670 --> 03:41:40,800
dedication of sticking out every single

6598
03:41:44,070 --> 03:41:41,680
show

6599
03:41:46,469 --> 03:41:44,080
to find out he won now now kevin

6600
03:41:47,990 --> 03:41:46,479
kevin my my good man you who've been on

6601
03:41:50,309 --> 03:41:48,000
the show and you've lived through the

6602
03:41:52,150 --> 03:41:50,319
telethon you've lived through us when we

6603
03:41:54,309 --> 03:41:52,160
did not have video you lived through us

6604
03:41:55,750 --> 03:41:54,319
when we had video but no sound or sound

6605
03:41:57,190 --> 03:41:55,760
was cutting out every half an hour that

6606
03:41:58,870 --> 03:41:57,200
would which i call april or the month of

6607
03:42:02,790 --> 03:41:58,880
darkness and sauron

6608
03:42:04,950 --> 03:42:02,800
um or the month of this goddamn 930e

6609
03:42:06,469 --> 03:42:04,960
logitech piece of [\h__\h] camera that is

6610
03:42:07,910 --> 03:42:06,479
currently sitting on my desk in a bunch

6611
03:42:10,710 --> 03:42:07,920
of pieces

6612
03:42:14,630 --> 03:42:10,720
you get to interview

6613
03:42:17,190 --> 03:42:14,640
laird scranton in two weeks here on

6614
03:42:20,229 --> 03:42:17,200
the den of lore the man himself the man

6615
03:42:22,150 --> 03:42:20,239
who is essentially the uh j.r.r martin

6616
03:42:23,429 --> 03:42:22,160
of comparative cosmology and i say that

6617
03:42:24,870 --> 03:42:23,439
because

6618
03:42:26,229 --> 03:42:24,880
for when he writes a book he references

6619
03:42:28,950 --> 03:42:26,239
his own books because it's that

6620
03:42:30,870 --> 03:42:28,960
extensive so amazing conversation i know

6621
03:42:32,870 --> 03:42:30,880
you got tons of questions you just want

6622
03:42:33,990 --> 03:42:32,880
to be able to hang out on air

6623
03:42:36,150 --> 03:42:34,000
all

6624
03:42:37,269 --> 03:42:36,160
it's up to you we'll make it happen

6625
03:42:39,190 --> 03:42:37,279
um

6626
03:42:41,910 --> 03:42:39,200
and your picks on music now i have to

6627
03:42:44,150 --> 03:42:41,920
say one thing it's guest host

6628
03:42:45,429 --> 03:42:44,160
so you got to make sure that it's not

6629
03:42:48,309 --> 03:42:45,439
monetized on youtube if you want the

6630
03:42:49,750 --> 03:42:48,319
music played because if it is and i it

6631
03:42:51,269 --> 03:42:49,760
can be kind of problematic for us but

6632
03:42:53,110 --> 03:42:51,279
still we'll work it out we'll work it

6633
03:42:55,110 --> 03:42:53,120
out but you at least get to help us

6634
03:42:56,550 --> 03:42:55,120
interview and your name will go down in

6635
03:42:57,590 --> 03:42:56,560
infamy is having to put up with me for

6636
03:43:00,150 --> 03:42:57,600
three hours

6637
03:43:01,349 --> 03:43:00,160
so that is this contest which we are

6638
03:43:03,190 --> 03:43:01,359
ending now

6639
03:43:04,150 --> 03:43:03,200
on june 1st fitting day beginning of

6640
03:43:05,510 --> 03:43:04,160
summer

6641
03:43:07,590 --> 03:43:05,520
uh denver

6642
03:43:09,670 --> 03:43:07,600
i gotta say you have been the biggest

6643
03:43:11,110 --> 03:43:09,680
most amazing sport like if i could give

6644
03:43:12,389 --> 03:43:11,120
you a hug

6645
03:43:13,510 --> 03:43:12,399
from for you know across the screen to

6646
03:43:15,189 --> 03:43:13,520
be able to do it

6647
03:43:18,070 --> 03:43:15,199
it's

6648
03:43:19,269 --> 03:43:18,080
there we go um your wife is probably

6649
03:43:20,309 --> 03:43:19,279
thinking

6650
03:43:21,429 --> 03:43:20,319
what the hell have you been doing for

6651
03:43:22,790 --> 03:43:21,439
the last six months and why are you

6652
03:43:24,710 --> 03:43:22,800
making sandwiches all the time has she

6653
03:43:26,469 --> 03:43:24,720
been asking about that i have to yes i

6654
03:43:28,710 --> 03:43:26,479
mean she's known about the sandwich

6655
03:43:31,750 --> 03:43:28,720
contest and she's been very supportive

6656
03:43:34,229 --> 03:43:31,760
so um yeah she's uh she's she's made

6657
03:43:36,710 --> 03:43:34,239
some of them for me and

6658
03:43:40,070 --> 03:43:36,720
you know like like if we're out together

6659
03:43:42,469 --> 03:43:40,080
uh on a hike or something still

6660
03:43:44,950 --> 03:43:42,479
she'll hold the dog so i can you know

6661
03:43:47,030 --> 03:43:44,960
film the sandwich or whatever so uh

6662
03:43:49,590 --> 03:43:47,040
she's been very supportive couldn't done

6663
03:43:50,870 --> 03:43:49,600
it without it well if if she's if she's

6664
03:43:52,070 --> 03:43:50,880
letting you come on this show knowing

6665
03:43:54,309 --> 03:43:52,080
that uh

6666
03:43:55,830 --> 03:43:54,319
i'm on here and i can be kind of a [\h__\h]

6667
03:43:57,189 --> 03:43:55,840
disturber and she's making the

6668
03:43:58,950 --> 03:43:57,199
sandwiches for you

6669
03:43:59,910 --> 03:43:58,960
i have to say you married a fantastic

6670
03:44:01,990 --> 03:43:59,920
woman

6671
03:44:03,990 --> 03:44:02,000
and i have to say thank you for to her

6672
03:44:05,830 --> 03:44:04,000
for supporting you for supporting the

6673
03:44:07,030 --> 03:44:05,840
show and the sandwich contest because we

6674
03:44:09,110 --> 03:44:07,040
could not have done it without the

6675
03:44:11,670 --> 03:44:09,120
collective effort of everybody involved

6676
03:44:14,229 --> 03:44:11,680
and everyone's been a fantastic sport

6677
03:44:15,750 --> 03:44:14,239
um i have to say i'm very glad because i

6678
03:44:17,110 --> 03:44:15,760
i want to get back to the cryptozoology

6679
03:44:20,150 --> 03:44:17,120
reports i want to get you have been

6680
03:44:22,309 --> 03:44:20,160
putting out so much interesting [\h__\h] on

6681
03:44:23,910 --> 03:44:22,319
on on your show like on your website

6682
03:44:26,870 --> 03:44:23,920
differentmichaels.net

6683
03:44:28,790 --> 03:44:26,880
uh again you go to dentalvar.com go to

6684
03:44:31,510 --> 03:44:28,800
about and go to contributors the link is

6685
03:44:33,429 --> 03:44:31,520
there it's that there's like you're

6686
03:44:35,269 --> 03:44:33,439
going back in ufos you're talking about

6687
03:44:37,189 --> 03:44:35,279
bigfoot and

6688
03:44:39,030 --> 03:44:37,199
i know you're more of a skeptically

6689
03:44:40,229 --> 03:44:39,040
minded guy like we are like okay this is

6690
03:44:41,349 --> 03:44:40,239
interesting story let's find if there's

6691
03:44:44,070 --> 03:44:41,359
any proof

6692
03:44:46,150 --> 03:44:44,080
okay there's some satanism in there and

6693
03:44:47,349 --> 03:44:46,160
apparently the guy was riding a rainbow

6694
03:44:48,630 --> 03:44:47,359
which was fighting out of his ass yeah i

6695
03:44:49,750 --> 03:44:48,640
think it's [\h__\h] that's kind of the

6696
03:44:50,870 --> 03:44:49,760
idea

6697
03:44:52,550 --> 03:44:50,880
of your

6698
03:44:55,110 --> 03:44:52,560
level of thinking and it fits with the

6699
03:44:57,030 --> 03:44:55,120
show and we love it to death so

6700
03:44:59,510 --> 03:44:57,040
getting back there is

6701
03:45:00,950 --> 03:44:59,520
going to be so

6702
03:45:05,510 --> 03:45:00,960
so fun because i know what we're going

6703
03:45:09,910 --> 03:45:07,110
i'm like wow like now that now the

6704
03:45:11,429 --> 03:45:09,920
contest is over i'm like oh [\h__\h]

6705
03:45:16,550 --> 03:45:11,439
i honestly i kind of i kind of feel

6706
03:45:16,560 --> 03:45:20,309
my friend

6707
03:45:25,510 --> 03:45:21,830
it was it was a six month contest was a

6708
03:45:26,870 --> 03:45:25,520
very good contest yeah no more no more

6709
03:45:31,110 --> 03:45:26,880
music

6710
03:45:32,630 --> 03:45:31,120
so uh denver you and i will um

6711
03:45:33,990 --> 03:45:32,640
we're gonna get to the the information

6712
03:45:36,229 --> 03:45:34,000
of the winners out there we'll make sure

6713
03:45:37,269 --> 03:45:36,239
everyone gets their books mailed or or

6714
03:45:39,990 --> 03:45:37,279
or not

6715
03:45:42,790 --> 03:45:40,000
uh obviously if you live in australia it

6716
03:45:44,309 --> 03:45:42,800
may take a little longer to get there

6717
03:45:46,309 --> 03:45:44,319
or we can figure something out again

6718
03:45:47,830 --> 03:45:46,319
there probably have been a an australian

6719
03:45:49,910 --> 03:45:47,840
amazon where copy for book is on the

6720
03:45:51,429 --> 03:45:49,920
shelf somewhere we'll figure it out

6721
03:45:54,630 --> 03:45:51,439
um

6722
03:45:55,910 --> 03:45:54,640
but yes now next this month for june

6723
03:45:57,910 --> 03:45:55,920
this is going to be a really straight up

6724
03:45:59,590 --> 03:45:57,920
contest and i'm i'm just going to say

6725
03:46:01,349 --> 03:45:59,600
what the prizes right now

6726
03:46:02,870 --> 03:46:01,359
i have a copy of

6727
03:46:06,630 --> 03:46:02,880
unopened copy

6728
03:46:07,990 --> 03:46:06,640
of a ps4 version of final fantasy xv

6729
03:46:09,510 --> 03:46:08,000
and it's gonna be a straight jaw a

6730
03:46:11,030 --> 03:46:09,520
straight draw for june i got a lot of

6731
03:46:12,550 --> 03:46:11,040
work we got like

6732
03:46:16,309 --> 03:46:12,560
four more guests to go until the end of

6733
03:46:18,070 --> 03:46:16,319
the month plus a bonus episode

6734
03:46:20,830 --> 03:46:18,080
if you if you own a ps4 you do not have

6735
03:46:24,870 --> 03:46:20,840
final fantasy xv if you want a

6736
03:46:26,630 --> 03:46:24,880
copy go to patreon.com

6737
03:46:28,389 --> 03:46:26,640
support the show for a buck i will enter

6738
03:46:30,469 --> 03:46:28,399
you into a draw

6739
03:46:31,830 --> 03:46:30,479
for our

6740
03:46:33,110 --> 03:46:31,840
what i'm looking forward to and i'm

6741
03:46:34,790 --> 03:46:33,120
looking forward to every single guest in

6742
03:46:37,269 --> 03:46:34,800
every single show we're having ross

6743
03:46:38,389 --> 03:46:37,279
hamilton on the show at the end of the

6744
03:46:41,110 --> 03:46:38,399
month

6745
03:46:43,189 --> 03:46:41,120
we cut off our episode was one of our

6746
03:46:44,229 --> 03:46:43,199
best episodes ever was what made me

6747
03:46:46,550 --> 03:46:44,239
believe we were going in the right

6748
03:46:48,150 --> 03:46:46,560
direction episode nine

6749
03:46:49,750 --> 03:46:48,160
and we cut off really before we started

6750
03:46:52,150 --> 03:46:49,760
talking about giants guess what we're

6751
03:46:54,550 --> 03:46:52,160
[\h__\h] talking about giants for the

6752
03:46:55,910 --> 03:46:54,560
entire episode everything in terms of

6753
03:46:57,189 --> 03:46:55,920
north american giants from his

6754
03:46:58,630 --> 03:46:57,199
perspective

6755
03:47:01,429 --> 03:46:58,640
and he knows everything about star

6756
03:47:04,389 --> 03:47:01,439
mounds and and and the serpent mound and

6757
03:47:06,229 --> 03:47:04,399
especially in him coming from ohio he

6758
03:47:08,309 --> 03:47:06,239
knows the mythology he knows the people

6759
03:47:09,349 --> 03:47:08,319
out there and we are going to go really

6760
03:47:11,670 --> 03:47:09,359
deep

6761
03:47:13,510 --> 03:47:11,680
so i'm going to announce

6762
03:47:15,510 --> 03:47:13,520
that winner on

6763
03:47:16,830 --> 03:47:15,520
the that show which i

6764
03:47:18,469 --> 03:47:16,840
don't let me let

6765
03:47:19,910 --> 03:47:18,479
me

6766
03:47:22,229 --> 03:47:19,920
get up here i know it's last thursday i

6767
03:47:26,630 --> 03:47:22,239
think it's the 29th it could be wrong

6768
03:47:29,970 --> 03:47:28,950
it is the 29th of june so the 29th of

6769
03:47:31,750 --> 03:47:29,980
june

6770
03:47:33,189 --> 03:47:31,760
[Music]

6771
03:47:33,990 --> 03:47:33,199
if you and this is going to be one of

6772
03:47:35,910 --> 03:47:34,000
those

6773
03:47:37,030 --> 03:47:35,920
have you subscribed before the beginning

6774
03:47:39,030 --> 03:47:37,040
of the show

6775
03:47:40,790 --> 03:47:39,040
no then then you're that then you're not

6776
03:47:42,710 --> 03:47:40,800
eligible because it's that close to the

6777
03:47:44,309 --> 03:47:42,720
end of the month but i have a fi i have

6778
03:47:46,790 --> 03:47:44,319
a copy of final fantasy 15 i'm going to

6779
03:47:49,349 --> 03:47:46,800
give it away even if you give a buck to

6780
03:47:50,790 --> 03:47:49,359
the show i'll let you into the draw i

6781
03:47:52,070 --> 03:47:50,800
will send you this comp at final fantasy

6782
03:47:53,910 --> 03:47:52,080
xv now keep in mind if you're not in

6783
03:47:56,790 --> 03:47:53,920
north america you're [\h__\h] it's it's

6784
03:47:57,910 --> 03:47:56,800
north american copy um so if you are one

6785
03:48:00,710 --> 03:47:57,920
of the

6786
03:48:02,630 --> 03:48:00,720
57 to 70 percent of our audience that

6787
03:48:04,790 --> 03:48:02,640
lives in the states you probably want

6788
03:48:06,790 --> 03:48:04,800
this it's fantastic i've been playing it

6789
03:48:08,070 --> 03:48:06,800
non-stop since i got it at christmas my

6790
03:48:09,990 --> 03:48:08,080
wife bought two copies for whatever

6791
03:48:12,229 --> 03:48:10,000
reason i'm giving one of them one of

6792
03:48:14,070 --> 03:48:12,239
them away because well if we can do it

6793
03:48:15,590 --> 03:48:14,080
fantastic and i can get you into the

6794
03:48:19,830 --> 03:48:15,600
series that has been

6795
03:48:22,950 --> 03:48:21,110
i just don't want it to end i don't want

6796
03:48:26,469 --> 03:48:22,960
this contest to end i don't want it to

6797
03:48:28,469 --> 03:48:26,479
end i don't i'm very sad

6798
03:48:29,429 --> 03:48:28,479
um

6799
03:48:33,110 --> 03:48:29,439
you

6800
03:48:36,950 --> 03:48:33,120
[\h__\h] thank god

6801
03:48:36,960 --> 03:48:42,630
it's over

6802
03:48:45,670 --> 03:48:44,309
i don't know i'm i'm

6803
03:48:47,510 --> 03:48:45,680
feeling kind of

6804
03:48:49,510 --> 03:48:47,520
i'm relieved

6805
03:48:52,389 --> 03:48:49,520
and i just i kind of want to go back to

6806
03:48:54,389 --> 03:48:52,399
like february when we first started but

6807
03:48:55,990 --> 03:48:54,399
that's fine we can't we can't do that

6808
03:48:57,670 --> 03:48:56,000
time travel time travel does not exist

6809
03:49:00,150 --> 03:48:57,680
at the common man yet

6810
03:49:02,710 --> 03:49:00,160
um i think we're pretty much done this

6811
03:49:04,550 --> 03:49:02,720
this uh

6812
03:49:07,670 --> 03:49:04,560
yeah well we'll cap it off there but i

6813
03:49:11,030 --> 03:49:07,680
know that for all those who are winners

6814
03:49:13,429 --> 03:49:11,040
for this show specifically

6815
03:49:15,349 --> 03:49:13,439
and it's contest we'll get it out too

6816
03:49:16,550 --> 03:49:15,359
thank you for participating it's the

6817
03:49:20,070 --> 03:49:16,560
most ridiculous thing we've ever done

6818
03:49:20,080 --> 03:49:24,150
as i've been told

6819
03:49:27,750 --> 03:49:25,990
denver's sexy southern drawl with this

6820
03:49:29,750 --> 03:49:27,760
music is the most awesome thing on talk

6821
03:49:31,189 --> 03:49:29,760
radio ever

6822
03:49:32,389 --> 03:49:31,199
i don't know about that there's somebody

6823
03:49:33,670 --> 03:49:32,399
out there

6824
03:49:34,950 --> 03:49:33,680
yeah straight up there was somebody out

6825
03:49:36,950 --> 03:49:34,960
there of the

6826
03:49:39,030 --> 03:49:36,960
like right we have a few

6827
03:49:40,550 --> 03:49:39,040
several several a lot of viewers who are

6828
03:49:42,630 --> 03:49:40,560
still listening

6829
03:49:44,150 --> 03:49:42,640
somebody out there who was not in chat

6830
03:49:46,309 --> 03:49:44,160
who's been listening to this show

6831
03:49:48,389 --> 03:49:46,319
listens the entire show

6832
03:49:50,070 --> 03:49:48,399
and then listens to your voice

6833
03:49:51,429 --> 03:49:50,080
specifically

6834
03:49:52,950 --> 03:49:51,439
don't know who it is they were very

6835
03:49:53,400 --> 03:49:52,960
anonymous just saying just just putting

6836
03:49:54,950 --> 03:49:53,410
it out there

6837
03:49:57,429 --> 03:49:54,960
[Music]

6838
03:49:59,910 --> 03:49:57,439
so uh well

6839
03:50:01,830 --> 03:49:59,920
for you mysterious letter giver

6840
03:50:03,189 --> 03:50:01,840
thank you very much for listening and

6841
03:50:05,429 --> 03:50:03,199
you rest to be sure we will have more

6842
03:50:08,229 --> 03:50:05,439
denver on this show as we go on now

6843
03:50:09,590 --> 03:50:08,239
denver you get the last

6844
03:50:11,110 --> 03:50:09,600
opportunity

6845
03:50:12,790 --> 03:50:11,120
for this contest

6846
03:50:15,830 --> 03:50:12,800
to to pick the

6847
03:50:18,389 --> 03:50:15,840
exit music what would you like to hear

6848
03:50:21,429 --> 03:50:18,399
you have a spellbound

6849
03:50:23,110 --> 03:50:21,439
of course i do

6850
03:50:24,630 --> 03:50:23,120
it was our only exit music for like four

6851
03:50:25,830 --> 03:50:24,640
months

6852
03:50:27,670 --> 03:50:25,840
and i was like we have all the sexy

6853
03:50:30,870 --> 03:50:27,680
music and i don't know any of it

6854
03:50:30,880 --> 03:50:38,630
there we go

6855
03:50:41,830 --> 03:50:40,309
ladies and gentlemen this is the dental

6856
03:50:44,469 --> 03:50:41,840
lore you know how we roll

6857
03:50:45,670 --> 03:50:44,479
we we roll because we have fun and uh we

6858
03:50:46,950 --> 03:50:45,680
drink a lot of scotch we learn some

6859
03:50:48,950 --> 03:50:46,960
really cool [\h__\h] i learned some really

6860
03:50:50,150 --> 03:50:48,960
cool [\h__\h] tonight courtesy of uh john

6861
03:50:53,750 --> 03:50:50,160
michael

6862
03:50:55,030 --> 03:50:53,760
about

6863
03:50:57,030 --> 03:50:55,040
like [\h__\h] yeah i think we have like a

6864
03:51:00,150 --> 03:50:57,040
final lesson at the end of each show

6865
03:51:07,349 --> 03:51:03,349
i learned that no matter

6866
03:51:10,790 --> 03:51:09,429
or what you believe in

6867
03:51:12,070 --> 03:51:10,800
that even if i still love you as a

6868
03:51:13,510 --> 03:51:12,080
person

6869
03:51:15,510 --> 03:51:13,520
there is some dark magic that's actually

6870
03:51:17,750 --> 03:51:15,520
going to come in and try and manipulate

6871
03:51:19,990 --> 03:51:17,760
your brain

6872
03:51:21,990 --> 03:51:20,000
turn you into a bad decision-making

6873
03:51:23,269 --> 03:51:22,000
machine apparently

6874
03:51:25,670 --> 03:51:23,279
um

6875
03:51:27,910 --> 03:51:25,680
that and girl guides are the head of the

6876
03:51:30,070 --> 03:51:27,920
illuminati

6877
03:51:32,870 --> 03:51:30,080
and if you want defense you need to be

6878
03:51:34,469 --> 03:51:32,880
wearing pantaloons

6879
03:51:35,530 --> 03:51:34,479
something like that

6880
03:51:39,670 --> 03:51:35,540
and uh

6881
03:51:44,309 --> 03:51:41,269
apparently people love den for michael's

6882
03:51:48,469 --> 03:51:46,710
well i do personally but that's just me

6883
03:51:50,790 --> 03:51:48,479
he's awesome

6884
03:51:52,790 --> 03:51:50,800
ladies and gentlemen

6885
03:51:54,790 --> 03:51:52,800
this is the den of war

6886
03:51:55,990 --> 03:51:54,800
episode 40 now stick around if you're

6887
03:51:59,030 --> 03:51:56,000
still on the show i'm going to say this

6888
03:52:01,030 --> 03:51:59,040
much i've done a hangover in two weeks

6889
03:52:03,510 --> 03:52:01,040
[\h__\h] it we're doing a hangover call-in

6890
03:52:05,910 --> 03:52:03,520
show after this show so if you want to

6891
03:52:08,309 --> 03:52:05,920
ask me questions about the show

6892
03:52:09,269 --> 03:52:08,319
you give me 10 minutes i'll be back on

6893
03:52:11,510 --> 03:52:09,279
here we're going to do a live

6894
03:52:14,150 --> 03:52:11,520
interactive talk about this the show the

6895
03:52:17,189 --> 03:52:14,160
subject what you guys want to hear

6896
03:52:18,950 --> 03:52:17,199
you see the information up

6897
03:52:20,469 --> 03:52:18,960
let me just get denver i'm gonna move

6898
03:52:22,710 --> 03:52:20,479
denver over here denver i'm moving over

6899
03:52:23,990 --> 03:52:22,720
to my right side screen you see this see

6900
03:52:25,510 --> 03:52:24,000
this right here where it says den of

6901
03:52:25,880 --> 03:52:25,520
lore

6902
03:52:27,670 --> 03:52:25,890
okay

6903
03:52:31,269 --> 03:52:27,680
[Music]

6904
03:52:37,110 --> 03:52:33,349
add this right here to your skype

6905
03:52:41,590 --> 03:52:38,469
directly via telephone if you are in

6906
03:52:43,429 --> 03:52:41,600
north america it is north uh is a u.s

6907
03:52:44,550 --> 03:52:43,439
east coast telephone number

6908
03:52:46,790 --> 03:52:44,560
uh

6909
03:52:48,389 --> 03:52:46,800
subscribe get your notifications

6910
03:52:51,750 --> 03:52:48,399
you'll know and we'll come on there and

6911
03:52:53,590 --> 03:52:51,760
uh we will have a good fun time

6912
03:52:55,189 --> 03:52:53,600
this is chris george zuger signing off

6913
03:52:57,110 --> 03:52:55,199
for the den of lore get ready for the

6914
03:53:00,070 --> 03:52:57,120
hangover i just need to go have a little

6915
03:53:02,070 --> 03:53:00,080
bite to eat and um

6916
03:53:04,550 --> 03:53:02,080
but we'll have some fun so

6917
03:53:08,950 --> 03:53:06,469
ready to go

6918
03:53:11,190 --> 03:53:08,960
we're good to go for you

6919
03:53:41,269 --> 03:53:11,200
ladies and gentlemen